Who did see in St. Paul today?

[Liesl]

Gent on a green riv custom at university and Raymond around 11:30 am. I shouted "Nice Riv!" Which one of you did I see????
Liesl on-my-way-to-the-state-fair

[Tim McNamara]

On Aug 31, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Liesl <li...@smm.org> wrote:

> Gent on a green riv custom at university and Raymond around 11:30 am. I shouted "Nice Riv!" Which one of you did I see????
> Liesl on-my-way-to-the-state-fair

That was me. We thought you shouted "nice rig" and we debated whether it was in reference to my bike or buddy John's classic Cilo Pacer (with steel cotterless Campy crank and steel pre-Nuovo Record derailleurs). Then I wondered if it was "nice Riv" which then led me to wonder if it was indeed Liesl, since there aren't that many Rivenistas around here.

[PATRICK MOORE]

Oh, photos, photos, photos, puhLEEZ! I've seen aluminum cottered cranks but never a steel "cotterless", let alone a Campy one.

(Wouldn't mind seeing the custom, neither.)

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[Tim McNamara]

Hunting around on line, these are the very cranks- Campagnolo Sport:

http://imagehost.vendio.com/c/3561856/view/campy_steel_crankset.jpg

Here is another set:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23666168@N04/6477223433/

I have only ever seen the one example in person...


My custom 1996 All-Rounder is at the top of the page here:

http://members.bitstream.net/~timmcn/tour2000.html

but there are some changes since then. The most noticeable is that it now has a Nitto small front rack, a Bertoud Mini 86 front bag. Other changes include Frogs, SunTour Superbe Pro rear derailleur and friction downtube shifter, and there is a Sanyo generator mounted to the Nitto rack because it wouldn't fit onto the chainstays as originally designed, due to the unusual bends of the A/R stays. I use Pasela 16 x 1.25 tires on it. The Nelson is on another bike. The A/R is such a wonderful bike to ride!

You may notice that it is obviously much too small by Riv standards. When I bought it, my intent had been for it to be a road and MTB with a switch of wheels and I used it as such for a few years; it was sized small to provide top tube clearance with my bits and pieces. With a set of 1.95" knobbies it was a good trail bike, but I really don't enjoy mountain biking all that much and eventually it became a road bike. In retrospect I should have known better and gotten a 62-63. Grant tried to convince me, pointing out that the TT clearance issue even in MTBs is over-rated. Oh well, live and learn. This one still works great with a Nitto Tech Deluxe stem raised up high enough.

Tim

[Bertin753]

Tim-- Thanks; both crank and AR are beautiful. I did notice the non-canonical bes height.

If I were on my computer I'd post a photo of a lightweight, hollow-arm steel crank featured on Classic Ligjtweights UK. Apparently as light as modern lightweight cranks and absolutely beautiful. I think the best steel cranks are the most beautiful ever made.

All Rounder: my first road custom was built around that same model with a few geometry tweaks--a good design.

Patrick Moore
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[Hiawatha Cyclery]

I obtained several sets of those steel Campy cranks in a convoluted trade a few years ago. Never could get them to set straight on a BB. I sold them on ebay, and vaguely recall that they went pretty inexpensively.

[PATRICK MOORE]

Here are the cranks I had in mind:

http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/components/durax-comp.html

18 oz for the 3-arm set, but that's without rings. Those steel rings must have added a pound, no? But elegant!

Grant: for your next Retrogrouch project!

Me, I'm going to install these:

http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/components/flint-catchers-comp.html

except not for flints. I recently got some Sheldon nuts for easy installation with allenhead brakes. We shall have a bumper crop of goatheads this year.

[Tim McNamara]

Steel cranks have those slender, elegant shapes.

On Aug 31, 2012, at 6:25 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bert...@gmail.com> wrote: