RivChicaWarrior goes down!

[Liesl]

I, too like Eric, have succumbed to the bad road surface. Took a right turn on to a side street with fresh "seal coat" which is a euphemism for small extremely sharp bits of gravel the consistency of crushed glass mixed with tar and dry dirt. Went down on the drive side on the protovelo. At least Erin was far enough behind me so she and the Quickbeam didn't go down as well. Bloody knee, bloody arm, just shy of a broken collarbone. Erin takes one look at my arm and sets into motion an entire day of urgent care. When I finally got in to see a someone who 1) was in my insurance network and 2) could sew stitches, the doctor went back and forth between calling the gash on my arm "the Grand Canyon" and "the Alps". Much scrubbing and senescing--in addition to chunks of stone, the even found a bug crawling around! Nine big stitches and 7 hours later, I am resting on the porch with ibuprofen and Jameson's--a winning combination. I have led a rambunctious life to date, but this was the first time I had to get stitched up. Thank heavens the Riv came through fine; just a few scratches. All in all, no boken bones and no broken bike. I was lucky. Advice? As you turn, mind the pavement for sand, leaves, and viscous nasty seal coat.

Limpily yours,
Liesl

[pb]

Sorry to hear, Liesl.  I, too, have learned the hard way the meaning of the word "debridement".  I was pumped full of drugs and I had a pretty nurse holding my hand while the ER doc scrubbed me clean.  I think I told her that I loved her.  "No -- I mean it -- I reeeally looooove you." 

 

Ibuprofen was the best they would do for you?  If you find yourself in troublesome pain in a few hours, or won't be able to sleep, don't be shy about calling your doc and asking for more serious pain meds.

 

Advice?  I think that keeping raw tissue coated with Neosporin can really help to speed healing and to reduce scarring, but you should confirm with your doc.  No palm injury?  Palms are really fussy to heal, and Neosporin is especially helpful there.  

 

Heal well and quickly.

 

Peter

[islaysteve]

[islaysteve]

!Liesl, So sorry to hear about your mishap!  Advice?  Not much:  More Jamison's (slightly but not too different from my comfort, see name).  But look on the bright side, no broken collar bone.  Heal quickly, Steve

On Monday, August 20, 2012 7:10:14 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:

[Marc Schwartz]

BIG OWIES!!

Glad you are largely OK.
Heal Quickly, &
Slay the pain

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Subject: [RBW] RivChicaWarrior goes down!

I, too like Eric, have succumbed to the bad road surface. Took a right turn on to a side street with fresh "seal coat" which is a euphemism for small extremely sharp bits of gravel the consistency of crushed glass mixed with tar and dry dirt. Went down on the drive side on the protovelo. At least Erin was far enough behind me so she and the Quickbeam didn't go down as well. Bloody knee, bloody arm, just shy of a broken collarbone. Erin takes one look at my arm and sets into motion an entire day of urgent care. When I finally got in to see a someone who 1) was in my insurance network and 2) could sew stitches, the doctor went back and forth between calling the gash on my arm "the Grand Canyon" and "the Alps". Much scrubbing and senescing--in addition to chunks of stone, the even found a bug crawling around! Nine big stitches and 7 hours later, I am resting on the porch with ibuprofen and Jameson's--a winning combination. I have led a rambunctious life to date, but this was the first time I had to get stitched up. Thank heavens the Riv came through fine; just a few scratches. All in all, no boken bones and no broken bike. I was lucky. Advice? As you turn, mind the pavement for sand, leaves, and viscous nasty seal coat.

Limpily yours,
Liesl

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[Liesl]

I forgot to add that leather-palmed gloves and a few beefy leather bracelets saved my palm and wrist. That's what made me think of EricP. There's a big ol' abrasion on my buffalo hide bracelet. My Mohawk friend says that the spirit of buffalo is giveaway; thanks buffalo for my wrist!

[Eric Platt]

Okay, your fall is worse than mine.  Muscle and/or ribs are finally healing.  Even got a 40+ mile ride on the SimpleOne yesterday.  This weekend was the first time in two weeks was on a drop bar bike. 

 

Advice - try a Big Ginger - ginger ale and 2 Gingers whiskey.  I use diet Vernors.

 

Hmm.  Like the idea of buffalo hide bracelets.  Might have to eventually get one.

 

Heal quickly.  Hate to not ride in the near-perfect weather we've been having.

 

Eric Platt

St. Paul, MN

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Liesl <li...@smm.org> wrote:

I forgot to add that leather-palmed gloves and a few beefy leather bracelets saved my palm and wrist. That's what made me think of EricP. There's a big ol' abrasion on my buffalo hide bracelet. My Mohawk friend says that the spirit of buffalo is giveaway; thanks buffalo for my wrist!

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[Marc Schwartz]

Do all Riv Riders in Minneapolis limp around moaning with a bottle O' Grog and road rash?? Tough place, by the sound of it.

Marc
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Okay, your fall is worse than mine. Muscle and/or ribs are finally healing. Even got a 40+ mile ride on the SimpleOne yesterday. This weekend was the first time in two weeks was on a drop bar bike.

Advice - try a Big Ginger - ginger ale and 2 Gingers whiskey. I use diet Vernors.

Hmm. Like the idea of buffalo hide bracelets. Might have to eventually get one.

Heal quickly. Hate to not ride in the near-perfect weather we've been having.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

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I forgot to add that leather-palmed gloves and a few beefy leather bracelets saved my palm and wrist. That's what made me think of EricP. There's a big ol' abrasion on my buffalo hide bracelet. My Mohawk friend says that the spirit of buffalo is giveaway; thanks buffalo for my wrist!

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[PATRICK MOORE]

Sorry to hear about your fall, happy to hear it wasn't worse and glad
to hear about the Jameson's.

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[Liesl]

I wouldn't say we limp and moan a lot here in Minneapolis, but grog? In a handsome flask?Definitely--especially on those rare occasions when we have no choice but to limp and moan because of the City's pernicious and vile habit of seal coating roads.

Erin reports that I was tough as nails.

[cyclotourist]

Yowzer, hope the healing process doesn't take too long and isn't too miserable!

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I wouldn't say we limp and moan a lot here in Minneapolis, but grog? In a handsome flask?Definitely--especially on those rare occasions when we have no choice but to limp and moan because of the City's pernicious and vile habit of seal coating roads.

Erin reports that I was tough as nails.

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[Manuel Acosta]

Glad that you're in good spirits about it. Glad that the bike came out fine, scratches on the bike are like medals of honor. Display them proud.

On Monday, August 20, 2012 4:10:14 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:

[Tim McNamara]

Pernicious? Perhaps, however, chip-and-seal coating the roads every 8-10 years adds some 30 years to the service life of the road, meaning it doesn't have to be dug up and repaved for that many more years. That saves taxpayers a lot of money and travelers a lot of disruption.

Sorry for your scrapes!

Tim

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> I wouldn't say we limp and moan a lot here in Minneapolis, but grog? In a handsome flask?Definitely--especially on those rare occasions when we have no choice but to limp and moan because of the City's pernicious and vile habit of seal coating roads.
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> Erin reports that I was tough as nails.
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[jimD]

Given the state of the union at the state and federal level the condition of our roads is unlikely to improve.

While JB greens won't prevent crashes, they do make riding on poorly maintained roads a more pleasing experience.

-JimD

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

Never good to hear about a crash. Is good to hear the injuries were just soft tissue. Here's to a speedy recovery. --Andy

On Monday, August 20, 2012 4:10:14 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:

[Montclair BobbyB]

Glad to hear you're OK, Liesl...  I spend more time off-road, and while I've had my share of endos and crashes on trails, the mere thought of going down on pavement scares the bejeezus out of me... Wishing you a speedy recovery to get back on the bike soon.

Peace,

BB 

[Jim Mather]

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Manuel Acosta <manueljo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Glad that you're in good spirits about it.

Jameson certainly qualifies as good spirits. Glad to hear it was "just a flesh wound". Hope the healing is quick!

 

jim m

wc ca

[Peter Morgano]

Having wiped out on sealcoat myself a few times with the scars to show for it my best wishes go out to you Liesl. Growing up upstate it was always a nightmare when the decided to re-do the roads, it meant either not riding for a few weeks while the sealcoat got beat down by the cars or going 2mph, neither was fun.  I wiped going down a corner around a hill where the excess chips had been piled by car tires, and then there was the barbed wire, not a fun time but I was 10 years younger so I healed fast.  My brother had his arm splinted for the rest of that summer, unfortunately, though. Hang in there!

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[David Hays]

Wishing you a speedy recovery.

David

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[Mojo]

Wishing you a quick recovery Liesl. Rest and recovery are important. Revel in them.

 

[Liesl]

Thanks for everyone's well wishes. I'm doing really pretty well. A few quick thoughts:

The only thing we had immediately available to wrap the bad wound was...a riv half mitt and an Irish strap to hold it in place!

On my referring to seal coats as pernisious ...given what happened, I think one can understand that I might exercise hyperbole in my remarks.

Having a much better day today!
Liesl

[PATRICK MOORE]

I'm curious about this slippery seal coat: is it tar sprayed on
gravel? What makes it so slippery? -- soft tar?

We don't use such barbarous, inferior road surfaces here in God's Own
Land of Enchantment: we go directly from real pavement to dirt.

Continue to let the Jameson's work its magic healing.

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[Tim McNamara]

It's a layer of tar sprayed on the road surface with gravel laid on top of it. It's rolled into the surface by cars and trucks and sometimes heavy machinery. After a few days the loose gravel is swept off. The problem is that the loose gravel is like riding on ball bearings... Tough on single track vehicles. The freeze-thaw issues of winter make this sort of thing necessary or road have to be repaved in 5-10 years.

Googling "chip seal" and looking at the images will show you how it's done.

Tim

[PATRICK MOORE]

Thanks; weird -- definitely not a NM or Georgia thing.

Next thread: widest tarmac expansion cracks? Must be documented. My
prizes reach almost 7 inches.

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[Bruce Herbitter]

We get a fair amount of chip seal around here for reasons already stated. Fatter tires at lower pressures (see the BQ charts for ideas) are very comfy on them, especially riding a steel or Ti frame, and surefooted as well. Cornering on loose stuff is of course always best done with caution and at a slower speed than usual.

To to OP:  Glad to hear your spirits are up and healing is ongoing.

[Steve Palincsar]

On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 05:36 -0500, Bruce Herbitter wrote:
> We get a fair amount of chip seal around here for reasons already
> stated. Fatter tires at lower pressures (see the BQ charts for ideas)
> are very comfy on them, especially riding a steel or Ti frame, and
> surefooted as well. Cornering on loose stuff is of course always best
> done with caution and at a slower speed than usual.

And without a lot of sideways lean.

[Rob]

Sorry to hear this! 

I had a minor bout of road rash last week while on the gravel rail-to-trail John Wayne Trail. (Enough already, with those pandas while riding!) If you can get a hold of it, Savlon is amazing. http://www.savlon.co.uk/products/antiseptic_cream.html 

Rob in Seattle