Roadeo Build

[Shawn]

Need some advice on the buildup of 59cm Roadeo frame I recently
acquired. I have a 58cm Atlantis and was looking to build the Roadeo
as my go fast bike. The Roadeo has a threaded headset and I am looking
to build the bike up with brifiters. I am on a middle of the road
budget and want the Roadeo to be distinctively different from my
Atlantis. Any suggestions on buildups including wheels would be
greatly appreciated. I weigh 195. Thanks in advance.

Shawn

[Jim Mather]

Do you know whether you prefer Shimano, Campy, or SRAM brifters? You'd do quite well with the build spec that Mark at Riv put together for a go-fast Roadeo.

When I wanted to put together my road gruppo, I watched Ebay and was able to piece together a 9-sp dura ace drive train at a reasonable price. In general 9-sp will save you big bucks over 10-sp. At your weight I wouldn't go with the Ksyrium-type wheels, I'd stick with 32-hole Mavic Open Pro or Velocity Synergy. 

jim m

wc ca

Shawn

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[Kevin M]

I think that there's great value in the current Campy Centaur group, especially if you can find non-Quick Shift set of brifters.

[Patrick in VT]

On Nov 16, 2:23 pm, Shawn <sa240...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Need some advice on the buildup of 59cm Roadeo frame I recently
> acquired.

I'd take a good look at the SRAM Apex drivetrain. it's pretty smart.

[Peter Pesce]

I just put a used SRAM Rival set-up on my Sam as an experiment to make it road-y-er. I had never used brifters before and they are fun for the kind of short rides that I do. I think the Apex group that Patrick suggested looks good too if you need the range. I went with the Rival because the used bits were cheap and I was able to find the old 2008 or 09 model in silver. The new stuff is all black (or white, I think).

-Pete

[James Warren]

If I were starting over with a non-touring road bike and still wanted low gears on it and wanted brifters, the following is what I'd do (and the SRAM rep told me it would work very well):

I'd get SRAM road brifters and use a 34-50 crank.
In the rear, I'd use a cassette that goes to 36.
I'd use it with the SRAM mountain derailleur in the rear.

Lowest gear ratio would be 34/36, and it would work really nicely.

-Jim W.

[Michael Hechmer]

Shawn, what do you have on your Atlantis?  Bar Ends?  And why Brifters on the Rodeo?  Having used all the shifting systems I have concluded that brifters are superior in three types of riding.  They have a tiny advantage over BEs in commuting traffic; a tiny advantage over BEs and a tiny disadvantage over DTs in rolling terrain; and a distinct advantage over both in mass rides.  Their biggest disadvantages are initial cost, durability, and set up / reliability.  On a "mid-budget" bike expensive brifters may lead to compromises on other components like brakes, hubs, and cranks without providing any real benefit. Personally, I do only a couple of mass start rides a year and have sold both pairs of the Shimano Ultegra Brifters I bought.  If I were putting together a go fast Rodeo (and I do have a go fast Rambouillet and a go faster Marinoni)  I would choose DT shifters and put the extra money into things like a nice White Ind. crank or hubs.

enjoy the ride,

michae

[Jim M.]

I forgot to say "Congratulations!" The Roadeo is a great bike and I'd
buy one except that my Legolas makes a great go-fast road bike.

jim m
wc ca

[Bill M.]

The Roadeo is the spiritual heir to the Road Standard. My Road is
built up thusly:

SRAM Apex group, stock 11-32 cassette, less the crank.
Campy Record Triple crankset, 52/42 rings removed, 46 ring installed
in the middle position, no outer ring, stock 30 T inner ring.
White Industries hubs, 32 14/16 DB spokes, Velocity A32 rims
Noodle bar, VO threadless stem on a Zoom quill adapter, Campy
seatpost, B17

The Apex stuff shifts very well. The brakes are excellent, but you
can't use them on the Roadeo as they are short reach. 46/30 x 11/32
gearing is very nice. I only shift off of the 46 for significant
hills, most of the time the 46 is perfect. Someday I will find SRAM's
12/32 cassette, which has smaller jumps at the top and a bigger jump
to the 32 bailout gear, that should be even better. I have Campy
Centaur on another bike, geared 50/34 x 13/29. The Campy group is
also very smooth and if the gearing range works for you it's a
perfectly nice way to go. I sometimes wish for an eleven speed 12/29,
50/13 is not tall enough for some of the local descents. Probably not
a popular sentiment around here.

The WI hubs are excellent, the A23 rims seem durable enough and
maximize the available volume of the tires. If the WI's are too
pricey, a nice set of 105's (if you like maintaining loose ball hubs)
or the Formula/Velocity sealed bearing hubs should work fine for much
less. I have run 28 mm Rubino Pros and 32 mm Randonneur Hypers on the
A23's with no problems.

The one Roadeo rider I know loves his, I'm sure you will too.

Bill

On Nov 16, 11:23 am, Shawn <sa240...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[dpco]

I am both a Roadeo owner and a friend of Bill M. I have owned three Rivs: a blue Ram. a Rom, and now, a Roadeo. I really liked my Ram and when I sold  it I immediately regretted the move. And, then Grant brought us the Roadeo. Living in San Joaquin County,Ca., I rarely ride in rain. But the fit of both the Ram and  now the Roadeo is perfect for me. I like the slight increase in response of the Roadeo.
Mine is setup with Campy 10sp., old Chorus alu levers, Centaur alu derailleurs, Record silver hubs laced to Velocity A23 rims. I use a TA Zephyr crank( maybe the best ever made) with 48/34 rings. Noodles bars, tech deluxe stem, Shimano medium reach brakes, and my own, personal B-17 Champion Special Ti( form fitted to my butt). My Roadeo is my "go to" bike for any hard rides, flat or hilly.
By the way, because I use a medium cage derailleur with my 48/34 crank, I can use a 12-32 IRD cassette on really steep, hilly rides.
I hope you enjoy your new Roadeo as much as I have enjoyed mine.
Don

[reynoldslugs]

Shawn:

The Roadeo is a fabulous bike. I built mine with what was essentially
an NOS Campagnolo Record 10 triple group with a carbon FSA triple. I
weigh anywhere from 200 to 215 and love the bike. Cut and pasted
below is the post I put on the list a few months ago, with a link to
some pictures:

-Finally getting some Roadeo time in.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157625377490164/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157625470080748/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157625765337223/


A lot of parts came from a Colnago Masterlight. There's no
comparison
between the two bikes, really. The Roadeo with Rivendell geometry is
a
delight to ride. The Colnago is a really beautiful bike, but quite
uncomfortable - - bars too low, neck always hurt, dopey short chain
stays led to crummy shifting for Clyde. Clyde likes a triple, but
the
triple doesn't like 39 cm chainstays.


So, the Roadeo has luscious 43 cm chainstays, which makes the
shifting
happy and smooth. The Campagnolo 10-speed brifters and rear
derailleur now work happily with an FSA crankset (24-36-48). As for
the frame, well, I need to come up with some prose to convey a sort
of
dreamy-eyed contentment here. As you would expect, the bike is very
comfortable, very "plush," to you the common parlance, but quick and
delightfully solid during out-of-the saddle climbing sprints. My
Clydesdale Quads tried to crush the bike today, but the frame just
rocks below the rider me, very content, no mushiness, no chainstay
rub, no bottom bracket sway. Rock solid, and still comfortable. It
feels nimble, and really excels on the downhills.


I don't know nothin about no planing, not me, but I can say this bike
sings pretty sweet when you push it hard.


Of course, the fat dumb and happy Schwalbe Kojaks are like feather
pillows. I'm really happy with the brakes - - I had read some posts
about how these big mouth brakesets are sloppy and shaky, but I am
happy to report they stop with alacrity, wonderful modulation, and
perfect confidence - - even for Clyde doing 35 mph down rough
pavement
on an 18% descent. The bike, the brakes, and the tires give a fellow
quite a smile on the downhill chicanes.


The only thing wrong with this bike is the rider, who hain't been
riding too much last few weeks.

[I considered SRAM Apex as well. All the suggestions from the posts
above are good. The Campagnolo ergo build I chose works great.]

Good Luck

RL

[reynoldslugs]

p.s. I also have an Atlantis - - mine is a 61 - wonderful bike, but
the Roadeo is a nicer ride for anything short of a fire road. Having
both bikes is the best of both worlds, congratulations.

RL

On Nov 16, 11:23 am, Shawn <sa240...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[eflayer]

for me "go fast" and downtube shifters don't belong in the same equation. I have used Ultegra 9 speed brifters on a number of bikes over the last 10 years and have never had one malfunction. if you ride mostly on the tops of your drop bars, it is so much more efficient (for me) to be able shift and brake without moving my hands off the bars or the hoods. my drive train of choice is 9 speed, with 12-34 cassette, Ultegra outboard bearing triple crank (10 speed cranks work fine)  (with a 26 granny in place of the standard 30), and Ultegra 6501 brifters. Have not tried SRAM stuff as I have sort of standardized all the bikes on the above combo. Should say most of riding is fast, smooth, mostly club rides that include a ton o climbing here in the SF east bay and environs.

[eflayer]

oh wheels. can't beat Open Pro rims and middle of the road Shimano hubs shod with 25c Michelin Pro Race tires for good pavement. i just had built some lighter weight Velocity A23 rims, Sapim Laser spokes, C-4 hubs and installed Schwalbe 25c Ultremo tires...oh what a ride.

[stevep33]

The HED C2 Belgium rims are terrific too -  wide like the A23s. My local wheelbuilder remarks that the HED rims are particularly easy to work with and build up really nice.   These slightly wider but still lightweight rims are the way to go. 
And +1 for WI hubs.

[numbnuts]

Hey Shawn,

I'm parting out my go fast, so I have a complete build kit that I think would be wonderful on a Rodeo.

Let's talk offlist if you are interested.

Chris

[Shawn]

All thanks for the great suggestions; they will certainly help this
armature get started.
Thanks
Shawn

On Nov 16, 2:23 pm, Shawn <sa240...@yahoo.com> wrote: