Raffle winner represent

[Allan in Portland]

I had been trying to decide whether to start this topic. Seeing the direction the "new Riv" thread went, it seems I'm not alone thinking along the same lines.

So, what is your custom idea?

Mine is a thin-wall, low-trail Saluki. (Would Grant do a low-trail custom? I think he would.) Hard part is the color. I loved the Bean & Grey Hunq, both color and small touches like the seat stay tops and fork crown details, but orange is pretty awesome too. And I'm not sure a custom in the colors of a stock model is proper etiquette. I'm sure Grant knows ;-), but anyone else venture an opinion?

And hey, even if you didn't enter, feel free to share.

Merry Christmas,

-Allan

[Michael]

For my custom:

 

Frame and fork:

I would ask Rivendell for the lightest, fastest FF I could get that would let them still sleep well at night.

 

Paint:

Traced lugs/crown, cream headtube, and a very dark greenish/blueish patchwork plaid type color, or , whatever was available from their custom color charts. If not plaid, then some kinda metallic aqua color, but with the biggest sparkles (metal flake?) I could get that would still allow Rivendell employees sleep well at night.

 

Build:

Nitto, Nitto, Nitto, Brooks, Brooks, drivetrain up to the advice of Riv. Gearing light for hills. MKS Touring Pedals. Bar ends, Shimano brake levers. Toss up for Paul Racers or Silver-type Sidepulls - whatever is more fail-proof and easier to fix on the road. Wheels up to Rivendell, but husky enough so that they could still sleep well at night and I could mount 30-something mm tires with enough clearance for fenders.

 

Eyelets/Braze-ons:

As many as they could sqeeze in, and still be able to sleep at night. I would not use them for racks, I just like to attach things to 'em (like fenders and extra tail lights and a Gino mount for a headlight.). I would use a saddle bag and two Nitto bottle holders.

 

[Olivier Chetelat]

Photoshopped photo here for I type too slow:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/8292632965/in/photostream/lightbox/

Olivier

SF

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[Steve Palincsar]

On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 19:03 -0800, Allan in Portland wrote:
> Mine is a thin-wall, low-trail Saluki. (Would Grant do a low-trail
> custom? I think he would.)

I doubt it. However, Mitch Pryor will -- it's called the Randonneur
Project -- and Boulder will.

[Colin Bortner]

Nice quick PS work!

[Colin Bortner]

I'd be torn between, (1) essentially a Bombadil, or (2) a 120mm spaced
26" or 650B AHH with a single TT, Roadeo tubing, 1" threadless fork, a
high, high BB for fixed use, and paragon sliding dropouts.

Sliders: http://cdn2.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn.net/2011/03/24/2/bronto_bon_dropout_600.jpg

Grant/Riv may reject some of #2, but it's got to be weird because the
bikes I like are road-ish Riv bike -- the functional overlap of my
current bikes is already enormous!

[Colin Bortner]

er, "road-ish, Riv-ish bikes"

[RJM]

I bought myself a gift certificate today to enter the raffle. Now, if I don't win I am ordering a Roadeo frame and fork and using the gift certificate for it. If I do win, I am going to be torn, because I really need/want two different bikes. The first bike is a fast club ride bike, which the Roadeo seems to be perfect for. I could do a custom fast bike, that would be cool. Or....

 

The second bike would be some sort of mountain bike like a Hunq or Bombadil. What I would really like would be a custom mountain Mixte with bombadil - like tubing that would take 650b wheels and 2.3 Pancetti tires. I would probably get it pea sage green or go with a redish color. Can't decide. I would use albatross bars or mustache bars on the bike. A bike like this would be perfect for the trail riding around me.

[William]

I agree with Steve in doubting that Grant would build a thin tubed low trail rando bike.  That's just not the kind of bike Grant designs.  Just like if you went to Mitch Pryor and asked for a high-trail stiffer all-rounder, it's not the bike he's comfortable building.  Grant designs Rivendells.  Mitch Pryor designs M.A.P.'s 

Side note, I wonder, Steve how do you feel about the fact that the M.A.P. Campeur option includes a diagatube.  The horror!  :-)

If you'll excuse the metaphor:  I wouldn't ask a rabbi to perform a Catholic wedding.  It's something he probably could do, being generally educated about religious ceremonies, but it's not something he'd be comfortable doing, and it would be no surprise that when you asked him to perform your catholic wedding, he politely decline to do it.  Let the rabbi do what a rabbi is comfortable doing.  Grant is comfortable designing Rivendells.  Grant thinks it is possible to build a bike that is too flexy, so he designs bikes that are flexy enough, but not too flexy.  Grant has done more first hand experimentation on the T-word than most people, and he's happy with the way he designs bikes.  

Even though I own and like my skinny tubed low-trail bike, if I win the raffle, I will have Grant design me a Rivendell.  I'd tell him the kind of riding I want to do on it, and I'd be very specific on all the clearances I want, but I'd still plan on the bike being a Rivendell, not a Rene Herse.  

[Steve Palincsar]

On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 10:27 -0800, William wrote:
>
> Side note, I wonder, Steve how do you feel about the fact that the
> M.A.P. Campeur option includes a diagatube. The horror! :-)

Not for a campeur, it's not. It's totally appropriate for a bike
intended to carry heavy camping loads.

And if double-top-tube Rivs were campeurs and similar, I'd be perfectly
fine with that. What really bothers me is adding that kind of
stiffening on already too stiff frames not meant to be heavy load
carriers in the first place, especially if provided solely for the sake
if visual differentiation, like the Hetchins "vibrant triangle."

[Jim Mather]

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Steve Palincsar <pali...@his.com> wrote:
>
> And if double-top-tube Rivs were campeurs and similar, I'd be perfectly
> fine with that. What really bothers me is adding that kind of
> stiffening on already too stiff frames not meant to be heavy load
> carriers in the first place, especially if provided solely for the sake
> if visual differentiation, like the Hetchins "vibrant triangle."

I know plenty of double-top-tube Rivs that get used for hauling heavy
camping loads. Have you actually ridden any of them? One rider's too
stiff is another rider's solid and steady. Making sweeping
generalizations based on your preference is pretty specious.

jim m
wc ca

[ted]

And what counts as a "heavy load carriers", a commuter with laptop
books and lunch, 20 lbs on a s240, or 50+ lbs on an extended trip in
the boonies? Lean riders or more typical middle aged men with several
10s of spare lbs? By all means buy and ride what you like, but
diversity in the marketplace is a good thing. There is more than one
right way.

On Dec 21, 11:16 am, Jim Mather <mather...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Steve Palincsar]

On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 12:02 -0800, ted wrote:
> And what counts as a "heavy load carriers", a commuter with laptop
> books and lunch, 20 lbs on a s240, or 50+ lbs on an extended trip in
> the boonies? Lean riders or more typical middle aged men with several
> 10s of spare lbs?

When the load is heavy enough to require that amount of stiffness.
Given the oversize tubing used in Rivendells it would have to be a
seriously heavy load indeed, in my opinion, to require the additional
stiffening of a double top tube.

> By all means buy and ride what you like, but
> diversity in the marketplace is a good thing. There is more than one
> right way.

And there's more than one wrong way, too.

[William]

So you approve of the 2tt on the M.A.P. the Bombadil and the Hunqapillar and disapprove of it on the San Marcos and the Hillborne.  I pretty much agree with you.  

[Matthew J]

Wonder what Grant would think if the raffle winner asked for say, a Hilsen, but with all Riv cut stainless tubing and lugs?  Riv did some clear coat protovelos a few years back so the aesthetic is Riv worthy. 

 

A nice contrasting brass headset and cream color panels with decals on the down and seat tubes.

 

Sounds pretty swell to me.

[Joe Bernard]

I already have a lovely Saluki which covers more riding conditions than I actually encounter, so I'd want my custom to have a narrower focus. The HS/Mystery/Bosco Bike with 650b fits that bill nicely, and gets me the diagatube I didn't think I needed until I saw it. I would then have to lose my mind and spend crazy-money on a red Rohloff Speedhub. The frame would probably be some form of yellow-to-butterscotch shade. Man, typing this out makes me REALLY want that bike!

 

Joe "who can't decide what to spend 300 bucks on" Bernard

Vallejo, CA.

[Trevor saxton]

I'd go for a simple one meets roadeo type of bike with Paul racer brakes...

[PATRICK MOORE]

Me, I'd have another one made like the two I already have, but for 700C wheels and a derailleur.

Or perhaps a lugged Rivendell fat bike?

Have spent $300 recently, but unfortunately for things I can't source at Rivendell.

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Trevor saxton <saxt...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'd go for a simple one meets roadeo type of bike with Paul racer brakes...

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[Rambouilleting Utahn]

650b AHHish for my wife. I got the last bike...

[Manuel Acosta]

Tandem. Rivendell spec'd. Two bikes for the price or one? Wonder if this would have been okay? 

[charlie]

would like to try a low trail fork but not a light tube set, I am 257 pounds ......I like my two top tube Sam and would probably want a heavier version of a Hilborne set up for Paul braze on brakes and internal wiring for generator lighting.

[ted]

Sorta like this
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/515613230/
eh?
Gota say I like the way you think.

On Dec 21, 6:27 pm, Manuel Acosta <manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

[Mike]

On Friday, December 21, 2012 8:56:19 AM UTC-8, RJM wrote:

I bought myself a gift certificate today to enter the raffle. 

That's a great idea! I might do the same thing. I'd kinda wanted to get in the running for the raffle but couldn't quite decide on what I wanted get. I'll probably go that route.

As for frame if I won? I'd basically get an Atlantis sized like my Hilsen (63cm) with mounts for 3 bottles, rack mounts front & rear, including mid for braze-ons for low riders. Kickstand plate. Canti brakes. The hard part would be deciding between threaded and threadless. As for color, I'd go with either orange, British racing green or something similar to the Atlantis sea foam green.

--mike

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

Perhaps some will think this is a waste of a won Riv custom, but the bike I've been thinking about for a next bike is an adult sized BMX for knocking around with my kids.  If Grant said no to that, I'd go with some sort of single speed Roadeo sized for my 93pbh. That or I would ask for the Protovelo of the "Smitty" bike that Grant mentioned in another thread. 

--Andy "Only a handful of people call me Smitty, but I like it" Schmidt

  

On Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:03:57 PM UTC-8, Allan in Portland wrote:

[Allan in Portland]

OK, let me know when Mitch has his next raffle.

Also, and others have said as much, but I disagree with the implication that one can build up for camping and touring loads, but one cannot build down for smaller riders.

Regards,

-Allan