Riding from Riv HQ to Berkeley

[Rex Kerr]

Planning to stop by RivHQ tomorrow... will be dropped off by car, but was planning to ride to Berkeley afterwards.

Looking at Google maps, I get two possible routes.  The problem is, both say that I should ride on HWY 24, and the street view there doesn't look very pleasant (it's freeway!).  Is there a better route that avoids the highway and isn't much longer than 20 miles [time constraints]?

I remember that Grant said that he was going to publish a route, but I don't remember ever seeing that.

Thanks!

-Rex

[William]

The way I go is alongside 24 until you hit the bike path that is right ALONGSIDE 24 but it is a bike path.  That gets you up to Orinda, where I usually cut over (south, right) on Camino Pablo to Wildcat, over Inspiration Point and drop into North Berkeley on Spruce.  

On Google Maps if you push the bike button, it will keep you off the freeway.  

[William]

Ha!  I hit the bike button and it does want you to ride on the side of Hwy 24 from Orinda all the way up to Fish Ranch.  That's nuts!  Although I admit I've seen a Bombadil riding up that way.  

[Rex Kerr]

OK, so I wasn't crazy.  I thought that perhaps you'd been given a better route.  I'll look for the bike path...  not being a local (neither to WC nor Berkeley) I must confess ignorance of these places that you call Orinda, Camino Pablo, Wildcat, Inspriation Point, etc...  I'll look at the map some more, but I might be back asking for clarification!

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:42 PM, William <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ha!  I hit the bike button and it does want you to ride on the side of Hwy 24 from Orinda all the way up to Fish Ranch.  That's nuts!  Although I admit I've seen a Bombadil riding up that way.  

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[Rex Kerr]

Thanks for the input... using your additional info, I came up with the instructions below.  Do these instructions look reasonable?  Interestingly they also have a 3D view button which gives you a satellite fly through with terrain, so I can see how hilly it'll be!

Rivendell Bicycle Works 2040 North Main St # 19 Walnut Creek, CA 94596

1.	Head south on Crokaerst St/Crokaerts St toward Central Rd	390 ft
2.	Turn left onto Central Rd	259 ft
3.	Turn right onto N Broadway	0.5 mi
4.	Turn left onto Lincoln Ave	0.2 mi
5.	Turn right onto Iron Horse Regional Trail	0.5 mi
6.	Slight left to stay on Iron Horse Regional Trail	125 ft
7.	Turn right onto Newell Ave	1.0 mi
8.	Turn left onto Olympic Blvd	1.2 mi
9.	Slight right to stay on Olympic Blvd	0.4 mi
10.	Continue onto Lafayette/Moraga Regional Trail	0.8 mi
11.	Turn right onto Foye Dr	108 ft
12.	Turn left onto Moraga Blvd	0.3 mi
13.	Turn right toward Golden Gate Way	446 ft
14.	Turn left onto Golden Gate Way	420 ft
15.	Slight left onto Plaza Dr	220 ft
16.	Turn right onto Moraga Rd	164 ft
17.	Turn left onto Mt Diablo Blvd	1.1 mi
18.	Slight right to stay on Mt Diablo Blvd	0.2 mi
19.	Slight right to stay on Mt Diablo Blvd	0.7 mi
20.	Turn left onto Acalanes Rd	0.3 mi
21.	Turn right onto Hidden Valley Rd	0.9 mi
22.	Slight right to stay on Hidden Valley Rd	0.2 mi
23.	Turn left onto Tahos Rd	20 ft
24.	Turn right onto St Stephens Trail	1.0 mi
25.	Turn right onto Vashell Way	174 ft
26.	Slight left onto Bryant Way	285 ft
27.	Bryant Way turns slightly left and becomes Moraga Way	315 ft
28.	Turn right onto Brookwood Rd	404 ft
29.	Turn right onto Camino Pablo	2.3 mi
30.	Turn left onto Wildcat Canyon Rd	3.9 mi
31.	Turn left toward Shasta Rd	59 ft
32.	Turn right onto Shasta Rd	0.2 mi
33.	Turn right to stay on Shasta Rd	0.2 mi
34.	Turn left to stay on Shasta Rd	171 ft
35.	Turn right to stay on Shasta Rd	312 ft
36.	Turn left to stay on Shasta Rd	0.2 mi
37.	Turn left to stay on Shasta Rd	0.1 mi
38.	Turn right to stay on Shasta Rd	299 ft
39.	Turn left onto Northgate Ave/Shasta Rd	230 ft
40.	Turn right onto Shasta Rd	387 ft
41.	Turn right onto Cragmont Ave	0.3 mi
42.	Turn left onto Bret Harte Rd	292 ft
43.	Turn right onto Keith Ave	0.4 mi
44.	Sharp left onto Spruce St	0.9 mi
45.	Turn right onto Virginia St	0.1 mi
46.	Turn left onto Walnut St	0.2 mi
47.	Turn right onto Hearst Ave	0.7 mi
48.	Turn left onto California St	0.1 mi
49.	Turn right onto University Ave	0.1 mi

Not sure if this link will work:

http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Rivendell+Bicycle+Works,+Walnut+Creek,+CA&daddr=37.900071,-122.213882+to:University+Ave&hl=en&ll=37.870294,-122.282265&spn=0.006852,0.009645&sll=37.875023,-122.265687&sspn=0.027405,0.038581&geocode=FR9vQgIdxnS5-CEMe1SC7Vfptg%3BFSdPQgIdBiq3-ClPC7L7iHyFgDG93BT2kdMoqw%3BFZDbQQIdaCC2-A&vpsrc=6&dirflg=b&mra=dme&mrsp=2&sz=15&via=1&t=f&z=17&ecpose=37.87486283,-122.27279452,335.63,-121.427,72.751,0

[Aaron Thomas]

I can't provide you a blow-by-blow at the moment, but I'd go from WC through Lafayette, Moraga, Canyon, up Pinehurst to Skyline, and from Skyline towards Berkeley. It's more scenic than going along the 24. Lots of trees. 

[Jim M.]

I tried to post these as tiny URL's but they didn't go through. Here
are the Google maps links for 3 routes from RBW to Berkeley, if anyone
else needs them.

Through Orinda to Wildcat Canyon route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=2040+North+Main+St+%23+19,+Walnut+Creek,+CA+94596+(Rivendell+Bicycle+Works)&daddr=orinda,+CA+to:Tilden+Regional+Park,+Berkeley,+CA+to:shattuck+%26+university,+berkeley,+ca&hl=en&sll=37.87255,-122.192688&sspn=0.103933,0.222988&geocode=FR9vQgIdxnS5-CEMe1SC7Vfptg%3BFZz1QQIdl6-3-Cn_I8hdvXyFgDGJZxICN8DaiQ%3BFfFwQgIdg2K2-CE71t63d4w_ew%3BFYviQQIdVFe2-CmrMPFdnn6FgDGOHqTR0sb_TQ&vpsrc=0&dirflg=b&mra=ls&t=m&lci=bike&z=13


Through Moraga and Canyon, up to Skyline route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=2040+North+Main+St+%23+19,+Walnut+Creek,+CA+94596+(Rivendell+Bicycle+Works)&daddr=canyon,+CA+to:37.8426464,-122.197202+to:37.8514593,-122.2243426+to:shattuck+%26+university,+berkeley,+ca&hl=en&sll=37.851611,-122.214661&sspn=0.025991,0.055747&geocode=FR9vQgIdxnS5-CEMe1SC7Vfptg%3BFco9QQIdDOa3-Ckn-6CfcYiPgDGIZXxGrGki1A%3BFdZuQQIdLmu3-CntOVfnX32FgDGs1L6iB6RDkQ%3BFUORQQIdKgG3-Ckt8f4MoX2FgDG_ghLSykn-Dg%3BFYviQQIdVFe2-CmrMPFdnn6FgDGOHqTR0sb_TQ&vpsrc=0&dirflg=b&mra=dpe&mrsp=3&sz=15&via=2,3&t=m&lci=bike&z=15

This one includes Pig Farm Hill and the 3 Bears climb:
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=2040+North+Main+St+%23+19,+Walnut+Creek,+CA+94596+(Rivendell+Bicycle+Works)&daddr=reliez+valley+rd+%26+alhambra+valley+rd+martinez+ca+to:bear+creek+rd+and+san+pablo+dam+rd+to:37.90176,-122.24042+to:shattuck+%26+university+berkeley&hl=en&sll=37.877699,-122.213116&sspn=0.103926,0.222988&geocode=FR9vQgIdxnS5-CEMe1SC7Vfptg%3BFbdTQwIdf4C4-Cmb5Qd_V2SFgDHOAkn0SXhAnQ%3BFfdMQgIdQje3-CnhXo1DjnyFgDG0LdpGpEzwaQ%3BFcBVQgIdXMK2-Cl_wbN1dXyFgDEfwQPzwGcFNg%3BFYviQQIdVFe2-CmrMPFdnn6FgDGOHqTR0sb_TQ&vpsrc=0&dirflg=b&mra=dpe&mrsp=3&sz=13&via=3&t=m&lci=bike&z=14

[Rex Kerr]

Thanks for the routes!

One question about the first one (Orinda to Wildcat Canyon)

Is Meadows Canyon Trail paved?  If not, and if I decide to take the paved route to get back quicker (depends how much time I spend at RBW!) how bad is the ride down Wildcat Canyon Road?  Are the drivers crazy [crazier than normal] on the blind curves in that area?

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[Joe Bernard]

I'll answer the second part. This is a very heavily biked area, and most drivers are aware of it. You won't find a lot of bike hatin' cowboys near Berkeley.

[Anne Paulson]

But please be careful of bad pavement. An experienced cyclist was killed on a descent in that area last week when his wheel got caught in a groove in the pavement, throwing him off his bike into oncoming traffic.

On Sep 30, 2011, at 11:02 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'll answer the second part. This is a very heavily biked area, and most drivers are aware of it. You won't find a lot of bike hatin' cowboys near Berkeley.

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[Rex Kerr]

I heard about that.  Very sad.

The one thing that we often seem to forget, though, is that there's quite a risk in the two hour drive to get to RBW in the first place!

Thanks for the concern and reminder to be careful...

[Tony]

I would suggest those directions (wave hi while on Newell) except
after turning left on Olympic, turn right on Pleasant Hill Road, left
on Mt. Diablo Blvd., right on Brown Ave, left on Deer Hill Rd., right
where it dead ends at Happy Valley Rd. to Bear Creek Rd.; then left
and it will become Wildcat Canyon Rd. after crossing Camino Pablo/San
Pablo Dam Rd.

Tony

On Sep 30, 4:13 pm, Rex Kerr <rexk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the input... using your additional info, I came up with the
> instructions below.  Do these instructions look reasonable?
>  Interestingly they also have a 3D view button which gives you a satellite
> fly through with terrain, so I can see how hilly it'll be!
>
> Rivendell Bicycle Works 2040 North Main St # 19 Walnut Creek, CA

> 94596<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Rivendell+Bicycle+Wo...>
> 1.Head south on Crokaerst St/Crokaerts St toward Central Rd390 ft2.Turn left

> onto Central Rd259 ft3.Turn right onto N Broadway0.5 mi4.Turn left onto

> Lincoln Ave0.2 mi5.Turn right onto Iron Horse Regional Trail0.5 mi6.Slight
> left to stay on Iron Horse Regional Trail125 ft7.Turn right onto Newell Ave
> 1.0 mi8.Turn left onto Olympic Blvd1.2 mi9.Slight right to stay on Olympic

> Blvd0.4 mi10.Continue onto Lafayette/Moraga Regional Trail0.8 mi11.Turn
> right onto Foye Dr108 ft12.Turn left onto Moraga Blvd0.3 mi13.Turn right
> toward Golden Gate Way446 ft14.Turn left onto Golden Gate Way420 ft15.Slight
> left onto Plaza Dr220 ft16.Turn right onto Moraga Rd164 ft17.Turn left onto

> Mt Diablo Blvd1.1 mi18.Slight right to stay on Mt Diablo Blvd0.2 mi19.Slight
> right to stay on Mt Diablo Blvd0.7 mi20.Turn left onto Acalanes Rd0.3 mi21.Turn
> right onto Hidden Valley Rd0.9 mi22.Slight right to stay on Hidden Valley Rd
> 0.2 mi23.Turn left onto Tahos Rd20 ft24.Turn right onto St Stephens Trail
> 1.0 mi25.Turn right onto Vashell Way174 ft26.Slight left onto Bryant Way
> 285 ft27.Bryant Way turns slightly left and becomes Moraga Way315 ft28.Turn

> right onto Brookwood Rd404 ft29.Turn right onto Camino Pablo2.3 mi30.Turn
> left onto Wildcat Canyon Rd3.9 mi31.Turn left toward Shasta Rd59 ft32.Turn

> right onto Shasta Rd0.2 mi33.Turn right to stay on Shasta Rd0.2 mi34.Turn
> left to stay on Shasta Rd171 ft35.Turn right to stay on Shasta Rd312 ft36.Turn
> left to stay on Shasta Rd0.2 mi37.Turn left to stay on Shasta Rd0.1 mi38.Turn
> right to stay on Shasta Rd299 ft39.Turn left onto Northgate Ave/Shasta Rd
> 230 ft40.Turn right onto Shasta Rd387 ft41.Turn right onto Cragmont Ave
> 0.3 mi42.Turn left onto Bret Harte Rd292 ft43.Turn right onto Keith Ave

> 0.4 mi44.Sharp left onto Spruce St0.9 mi45.Turn right onto Virginia St0.1 mi
> 46.Turn left onto Walnut St0.2 mi47.Turn right onto Hearst Ave0.7 mi48.Turn

> left onto California St0.1 mi49.Turn right onto University Ave0.1 mi

>
> Not sure if this link will work:
>

> http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Rivendell+Bicycle+Works,+Walnut+Cre...

[Rex Kerr]

Thanks to everybody who have advice.  I've arrived safely at my destination, and it was a beautiful ride!

[Rex Kerr]

Grrr, darn phone auto completion...  Who GAVE advice! :)

[René Sterental]

Which route did you end up taking?

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[Rex Kerr]

The trail next to 24, Camino Pablo, then Wildcat (the paved rout).

Some carbon mounted roadies were surprised to see me tailing then on the Mt Diablo road climb and started asking if I was carrying bricks in my bags (nope, just some riv goodies, including a new mark's rack), and saying that I should have baguettes sticking out the top of them.  After more not dropping me (though I managed the hidden valley road climb faster than their slowest rider, they offered to show me a better route...  Ended up riding the steepest part of Wildcat with their strongest rider (long time racer, he apparently lives up there) and getting seriously punished trying to keep up a decent pace.

[René Sterental]

Good for you!

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