WTB: 64cm skinny tire + fenders roadbike

[Ryan Ray]

I finally convinced the Mrs. to let me get a second bike (as long as I only spend freelance money on it). I'm looking for a steel club ride type of bike allowing me to continue packing useful racks and gadgets (dynamo lighting!) on my touring bike and maybe even putting some albatross bars and a springy saddle on it.

I'm on the lookout for a 64cm (or close) road bike that will fit fenders and 25s or 28s but not necessarily racks or anything. Downtube shifter bosses a plus. This bike will be ridden on 4 hr or less rides where I try and keep up with my pretend racer friends who like to ride really fast. A nice long top tube would be great as I hate "toeverlap."

Interested in frame only, or full bike. Time to thin your herd and let someone ride it every day! In Seattle a huge plus but I don't mind paying shipping.

Iv'e checked ebay and CL and nothing interesting yet. If I don't find anything soon I'll likely go with a Smoothie ES later this year.

- Ryan

[Michael Hechmer]

Ryan,  I have a 61cm  1984 Trek that fits your description to a tee.  I have thought about selling it from time to time because the fit and ride is almost identical to my 62cm Ramboulet.  Maybe this is the time to do it.  Trek advertised this as a "touring bike" but it is really a sport touring bike.  Reynolds 531C steel, standard size.  They put canti studs on it to try to make it look like a touring bike but the brake reach is actually 57 and I now run a pair of Campy Grand Sport Side Pulls. (their touring version of the old NR) brakes, but the original DiCompes work fine with 700c wheels.  You can just squeeze 32 mm tires under SKS fenders, but 28s are optimal, much like the Ramboulet.  This bike climbs very well and is rock solid on hi speed descents, exactly like the Ram.

These photos are a few years old

http://gallery.me.com/mhechmer#100014

 but scratch wise it's not much different today.  I have some different components on it now.  It has a brand new & expensive Cane Creek HS.  If you are interested I could sell the frameset, HS & BB for $600 plus shipping.  I can also offer very good prices on most of the remaining components: Sugino 175 mm RD2 crank (48x34x26), 105FD, Ultegra (long)RD, DiCompe or Campy brakes, 105/Synergy wheels.  Fair prices on Nitto bars, stem, seatpost, & silver BE or DT shifters.  This vintage of bike didn't come with DT braze-ons, but with a little effort I'm sure you can come up with an old set of clamp on studs.  The frame now has DT clamp on cable stops.

BTW, my stand over  is 91cm and have no trouble fitting on this bike. I ride with bars about 2 cm below the seat. I'm fairly tall waisted and so this bike currently has a 12cm nitto delux stem, but I have sometime thought a slightly shorter one would do fine. I use Frog petals and don't remember any TCO problem.  With fenders and clips every bike  I have ever ridden has at least some TCO .

If you're interested I could take & send current photos.

Michael

Westford, Vt

[Ryan Ray]

Thanks! I'm probably sticking so a 64 mostly because (most of the time) the top tubes are longer. Whats the top tube on tour Trek? That is a very nice bike though and along the lines of what I'm looking for.

- Ryan

[Michael Hechmer]

TT is 58 CC.  How tall are you?  I'm 6'1".   I'm not sure what the seat and head tube angles are on this bike.  But as these change, so does the TT length for a given reach.  The total can be controlled through stem length, which leaves TCO as the final variable.  TCO, as well as Trail will be affected by fork offset.  This bike has considerable fork off set which probably  explains the slightly shorter TT but (my subjective) experience that the bike doesn't have a TCO issue.

Good luck in your search.

Michael

[Ryan Ray]

Hi everyone. I had some great offers but someone responded from a few blocks away with a Rivendell Rambouillet that wasn't getting much attention due to his amazing collection of great bikes (he rides his Bleriot mostly). It was way more than what I was looking for but I couldn't pass it up. Once the deal goes through and I move some parts over I'll post pics.

If anyone is looking to buy a bike I highly recommend a post to this group. There are some amazing bikes not being ridden enough in here!

Thanks again,

Ryan

[Jared Volpe]

Ryan,

Thanks for the inspiration. I'm still looking for someone who is
looking to shed a 64 SH, 62 Hunq, 64 Bomba, or 67 AHH. If I don't
find one soon I'm going to break down and buy a 64cm Surly LHT but it
will likely be too small. I hope someone will save me from this
fate!

I'm 95-96cm in the PBH. Comfortable with a seat height of 83 - 84cm.

I'm looking to do some commuting and short (< 1 week) tours. Fire
roads, back roads, etc. Seems like a lot of Rivs would fit the bill.

According to Keven@Riv the following frames would work:
64cm Sam Hillborne
62cm Hunqapillar
64cm Bombadil
67cm AHH

Do you have a Riv you want to sell? Drop me a line if so.

Jared

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Good luck in your search, Jared. Just wanted to chime in that the 64 LHT is similar in geometry to the 67 AHH. We recently sold a 62 cm LHT to a guy who has a 65 cm AHH that we were trying to match fit-wise, and they were pretty close in all the relevant measurements. In fact, I thought he'd be slightly better off with a 60, but being a Riv-oriented type, he didn't want to get a too-small bike.

[Ryan Ray]

By brother just built up a Surly Ogre in one size DOWN from the largest. It's slightly more heavy than an LHT and allot bigger. As the forks don't get any longer he chose the second biggest size and it fits great. He and I ride about the same size road bike (64cm).

The Ogre can be taken on road tours, off-road tours, fits an assortment of racks and gadgets, canti brakes, disk brakes... If I couldn't spring for a bomba I would pick up an Ogre. I would still probably have a used bomba but even a used one will likely be 2x as expensive.

- Ryan