Any truly appealing panniers I'm missing?

[Scot Brooks]

I'm really close to pulling the trigger on some Ironweed panniers which seem to be incredible bang-for-the-buck. I've also considered the Sackville and Ostrich models. Any others that I should be considering?

[David Yu Greenblatt]

I find these Loyal Designs panniers to be truly appealing:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapcycles/6939511529/in/photostream

-- David G, Madison WI

[William]

Swift Industries are worth a look in my opinion, too

[MSmith]

I'm a huge fan of the Carradice SuperC panniers.

Mike in springlike So. Boston, Mass

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:34 PM, William <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:

Swift Industries are worth a look in my opinion, too

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[PATRICK MOORE]

How do these compare with Ortlieb Packers? I find the Packers
excellent; a lot of buckles, straps and drawcords make them a bit
fiddly for shopping, but the attachment system is excellent, not only
very secure and rattle free (if you set them up correctly) but unlike
some other panniers I've had, they stay out of the spokes even with
the minimalist racks I favor. I like the attachment system much better
than the usual J hook plus bungee. And of course they hold immense
amounts.

Question two: any practical as opposed to aesthetic benefit for canvas
over heavy duty nylon?

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Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
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[dougP]

Are you getting them for commuting & shopping or fully loaded
touring?

dougP

[Peter Pesce]

I like the looks of the Carradice Kendal:
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/08/traveling-by-bike.html
http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=product&under=type&product_id=52

And the Swifts are nice also.

[Ray Shine]

+1 for Swift Industries bags. I have their waxed canvas panniers. They are great. I never use my Ortliebs anymore.

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On Mar 7, 2012, at 12:34 PM, William <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Swift Industries are worth a look in my opinion, too
>

[Liesl]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackrosebags/

Black Rose Bags made in Duluth and tested 'round lake superior.

liesl in minneapolis, which hit 60 degrees yesterday

[Ray Shine]

Orrliebs are also very well made and, of course, practical. I have used them as clothes washers and rinsers, water haulers, and kept a turtle in one while riding across a party of a Kansas section. I released it in a safe area.

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[Bill]

philosophy looks real nice: http://www.philosophybags.com/

On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:01:03 PM UTC-6, Scot Brooks wrote:

I'm really close to pulling the trigger on some Ironweed panniers which seem to be incredible bang-for-the-buck. I've also considered the Sackville and Ostrich models. Any others that I should be considering?

On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:01:03 PM UTC-6, Scot Brooks wrote:

I'm really close to pulling the trigger on some Ironweed panniers which seem to be incredible bang-for-the-buck. I've also considered the Sackville and Ostrich models. Any others that I should be considering?

On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:01:03 PM UTC-6, Scot Brooks wrote:

I'm really close to pulling the trigger on some Ironweed panniers which seem to be incredible bang-for-the-buck. I've also considered the Sackville and Ostrich models. Any others that I should be considering?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I've tried a lot of swanky bags, but now Ortlieb is the only touring pannier brand I use.

On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:01:03 PM UTC-6, Scot Brooks wrote:

[Forrest]

I've been impressed with several kinds of Arkel bags for commuting and light touring, but I don't have a ton of heavy-duty touring experience with them. Also, they don't seem to be everybody's cup of tea in this group.

[Matthew J]

I use my Lemolo custom panniers for short day or two tours.  Anything longer, or riding in rough conditions, the Ortliebs go on.

On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 6:03:02 PM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:

[doc]

+2 Swift Waxed Cotton

http://gspiess.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/06-10-11-020.jpg

[Scot Brooks]

Those are absolutely gorgeous bags. 

[Mike On A Bike]

I am currently hunting for some deluxe panniers as well for my new
Hillborne that's just begging to be loaded down. As much of my riding
is as a commuting student, one want that I'm wondering if I can
satisfy is the ability to stuff a partially filled backpack in one of
the panniers, while loading up my other books, laptop, etc. in the
other. I'm really freaking tired of the sweaty back deal with riding
with a backpack on.

Just checked out the Swift page and their roll-top with backpack
conversion option looks pretty tricky, but I'm wary of the price of
these. I'm looking at Super-C rear panniers that are going for $140
shipped from Wiggle, and the dimensions would suggest I might be able
to cram the backpack in. Super-C's seem to have rave reviews from my
research, though they are a bit drab looking.

Any other urban commuter types who've come up with a good backpacking
setup? I also have a Paul flatbed that could carry a backpack, but the
catch is they're only rated to 25 lbs and that's not enough capacity
for me. Have a Nitto touring rear rack that could handle a ton of
bricks, and just want to find the best way to outfit it.

[Mike On A Bike]

hmm now the Swifts are really tempting... A 25"X13"X6" roll-top
pannier with backpack conversion would have the same capacity as my
Rivendell Mountain Works Mariposa backpack and would eliminate the
need to awkwardly stuff a backpack away. Now I've been fatally tempted
by the fancy pannier finery...sigh.

[Scot Brooks]

Thanks everyone for giving me your absolute best pannier secrets. There was some really beautiful/functional stuff in the discussion. Didn't know Jim Thill weighed in on here, and it was kind of a shock since I'd just spoken to him on the phone about the dynamo wheel I'll be ordering from him soon. Cheers everyone. 

[johnb]

+4 on the Swift bags. I have the canvas roll-tops and they rule.

On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:01:03 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote:

[johnb]

Swift also has a great bag for large front racks.

[Adam]

I was very impressed by the quality and appearance of the panniers
made
by "philosophy" bags as the NAHBS. They seemed to be one of the hits
of the weekend for
many.

Best,
Adam

[Bill M.]

I saw that MAP with Loyal bags at NAHBS, very pretty indeed.

Bill

On Mar 7, 12:28 pm, David Yu Greenblatt

[William]

But Phil doesn't have panniers listed on his Loyal-site.  Interesting.  Maybe email him and luck yourself into a discounted prototype!

[Harry H]

+5 for Swift Industries. They let you pic fabric, grosgrain, and thread color. I'm ordering a Brompton bag from them. They make great stuff.

Also the bags made by Philosophy are excellent. I met Troy the owner of Philosophy Bags at NAHBS and spoke to him for awhile about his bags. The bags look and feel great, the stitching is precise, the mounting hardware is German (making it as smart as Arkel), and they're made by him and a small staff near Portland.

Harry

[William]

Crap, one could easily spend $5000 on a pile of panniers, and that pile would have zero repeats and zero bad choices.  And my wife wonders why I have so many bags!   

[Alex]

I'm also a big Swift fan. I have a custom made Brompton bag from them
that I use every day for commuting and occasionally for camping. It's
fantastic!

--Alex

[Toshi Takeuchi]

My key consideration was the mounting mechanism of the pannier to the
rack. Both Ortlieb and Carradice have a secure mechanism where the
pannier is mounted with hooks to the rack and cannot fall off. I find
the mechanisms that involve bungee cords and such to be less secure
and more troublesome. For example, one time I hit a big bump and the
cord disengaged and the pannier fell off the bike! The hook fell into
my spokes and luckily the bungee broke before the spoke did.

I love my Carradice Super C pannier as a small pannier (front pannier)
and the great thing about Ortlieb panniers is that you can get a nice
bright yellow one for great visibility. My large panniers are Ortlieb
Sport Panniers.

Best,
Toshi

[PATRICK MOORE]

Thanks, Toshi. If I remember the Carradice system from the --- senile mental fart: forget the -- aha! Kendalls! -- If I remember those properly the C system was a bit less bulky than Ortlieb's; I had to grind the outer hook covers down on my Packers and smaller front packers to clear the fatter 1.35 Kojak when fitting them to the very minimalist Chauncey Matthews rear rack. 

I must check the Carradices if and when I next buy some. Meanwhile the Ortliebs are very, very nice. 

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[Bruce Herbitter]

I ordered a saddle roll.  Will advise my impressions of it after it arrives.

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[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hi Patrick,

The Carradice Super C hooks are super nice. They start wide and then
you engage the hook until it locks into the rack. It handles many
widths of racks including my wider Old Man Mountain? rack and skinnier
blackburn rack. The Ortlieb comes with different adapters that allow
you to use it with different racks, so it's not as useful in that
regard because you would have to change out the adapters to use with
different racks (I don't know the maximum width).

Best,
Toshi

[Earl Grey]

Has anyone tried the new Brooks Land's End panniers? Look like roll-
top Ortliebs, but made from a matte, greyish-brown waterproof
synthetic with a subtle plaid weave. Look appealing, but double the
price of the Ortliebs ($170 PER pannier). My assessment is that
everything Brooks makes except for their steel-railed saddles is way
overpriced. Too bad. The saddles OTOH are a bargain.

Gernot

[Earl Grey]

The Carradice Super Cs do look really nice. A little proletarian, but
purpose-built. Are the weights on the Carradice site accurate? Because
if they are, they are about half the weight of Ortliebs (Super C:
1150g for 54L, Ortlieb Backroller: ~2180g for 50L). I always thought
cotton duck, though nice, was heavy. Guess I was wrong? Or are they
listing weight per pannier? But then Carradice's Ortlieb knock-offs
are also more than double the weight...

Thanks,

Gernot

[MSmith]

I just weighed one (1) Carradice Super C rear.  Just under 2 1/2 pounds on my produce scale, so 1150g would be for a single pannier.


-Mike in So. Boston, Mass

[art molitor]

Got it Ron and thanks, Art

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