Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

[William]

I'm in the market for some metal fenders.  If you could get a particular model of fender for the same price with the same hardware in Stainless Steel or Aluminum, which would you want?  Is it Stainless for durability and Aluminum for light weight?

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Bill:  Yes on durability for SS, but they’re also pretty light, so the advantage in durability isn’t very costly in terms of extra grams.  IMO, nothing beats the appearance of those hammered Honjos, though.  T

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[William]

Thanks Tom.  

I agree that the hammered Honjos are super swank.  The target bike in question is that Stumpjumper Sport conversion I did a couple months back.  I've got my heart set on smooooooth fenders for that bike, like the chrome bumper on a 1950's Cadillac.  The thing is heavy as-is, so I'll go steel.  

On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:24:58 PM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:

Bill:  Yes on durability for SS, but they’re also pretty light, so the advantage in durability isn’t very costly in terms of extra grams.  IMO, nothing beats the appearance of those hammered Honjos, though.  T

 

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Subject: [RBW] Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

 

I'm in the market for some metal fenders.  If you could get a particular model of fender for the same price with the same hardware in Stainless Steel or Aluminum, which would you want?  Is it Stainless for durability and Aluminum for light weight?

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[Steve Park]

Pro and Cons for for the ss Berthoud and aluminum Honjos:

Berthoud stainless:
Pro:
durable
handsome
nice hardware
Con:
could be longer for better coverage
extra grams
any texture you want as long as it's smooth and round.
limited size (wheel/tire) offerings

Honjo aluminum:
Pro:
handsome
fewer grams
comes in longer lengths for better coverage
comes in many textures (hammered, fluted, smooth, etc).
comes in many sizes
Con:
not as durable as stainless
hardware is more fiddly than Berthoud hardware

[William]

Thanks very much.  I'm convinced.  Now, based on budget I'll decide whether to go Velo Orange Stainless (at $55) or Peter White Berthoud Stainless(at $73, assuming the website is up to date).  

[jeffrey kane]

Nothing against Peter White (and I mean Nothing) ... but if you're looking to shop around, you'll not find a nicer guy to ask questions of and/or get advice from than Mike Kone at Boulder Bicycles... and he sells everything you're considering.

[William]

Thanks for the tips.  I'll take that into consideration.

[Matthew J]

> I vote for Honjos with Berthoud hardware and DIY rubber flaps.

+1.  Not a fan of hammered at all, but I do like the smooth Honjos.  Honjo hardware though is a pain, and IMO distracts from the clean lines of the bike.  If Berthoud hardware works on your set up, a great choice.

 

Mike Kone - Peter White:  I have bought from both and like them both. 

[Mike]

The first metal fenders I ever used were Berthouds from the local bike shop. They actually went on easy enough and worked well. I put them on my Hilsen yet it is now sporting SKS. While the coverage isn't as good, the SKS allow for a larger tired. My radnonneuring bike sports VO fenders and while I have grown to have reservations about VO products, the fenders have held up well and work well. 

As others have mentioned, Mike Kone is a really nice guy, very helpful and I wouldn't hesitate to get fenders through him.

--mike

[Montclair BobbyB]

Yes, the hammered fenders ARE beautiful.. For your Stumpy, I think fluted would also look worthy.

DO post pics... that's a beautiful bike.

BB

 

On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:20:25 PM UTC-5, William wrote:

[Michael]

I'd Boeshield the inside of steel rims.

 

 

[Michael]

Sorry, I mean "fenders".

[Phil Bickford]

On Dec 12, 9:37 am, Michael <john11.2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, I mean "fenders".

Thanks for that clarification.

>I'd Boeshield the inside of steel rims.

left me with a nightmare of fixing that first flat....

Phil B

[Matthew J]

Stainless steel resists corrosion well.  I and many other riders of late have a completely uncoated stainless steel bike. 

[Peter Morgano]

I would think the debris that fenders kick up would wear away that boeshield pretty fast. I have a Peugeot with steel fenders, about 20 years old and still look ok. They are rusty as hell inside but my bikes live indoors so mostly surface rust.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael <john1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry, I mean "fenders".

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[Matthew J]

I have a Peugeot with steel fenders, about 20 years old and still look ok. They are rusty as hell inside but my bikes live indoors so mostly surface rust.

Stainless or chrome plated like the Walds?  Chrome I can see wearing down and rusting.  Or it could be the stainless fenders are rusting where someone used a non-stainless steel fastener.  Berthoud hardware is either aluminum or stainless, so this should not be a problem.

[Peter Morgano]

Chrome plated, yeah where the chrome has flaked off they have rust but are still sturdy.

On Dec 12, 2012 6:00 PM, "Matthew J" <matth...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a Peugeot with steel fenders, about 20 years old and still look ok. They are rusty as hell inside but my bikes live indoors so mostly surface rust.

Stainless or chrome plated like the Walds?  Chrome I can see wearing down and rusting.  Or it could be the stainless fenders are rusting where someone used a non-stainless steel fastener.  Berthoud hardware is either aluminum or stainless, so this should not be a problem.

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[tdusky]

2 things not mentioned yet.

Aluminum fenders can be easily adjusted for a perfect line with your tire by slightly pulling open (decreasing overall radius) or pinching (increasing overall radius) the fender. Stainless fenders are too rigid to bend.

I have a set of Honjos on one bike and a set of Bertholds on another bike and I like both. for all of the reasons previously stated.

I did have the stays crack on the front Berthold fender at the screw holes. I replaced it with some Honjo hardware and stay. I would go with the Honjo hardware for durability.

Tom Dusky

Huntington Woods Michigan

On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:20:25 PM UTC-5, William wrote: