Trail Recommendation Database?

[TSW]

hi all,
Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
people have posted or can post trail recommendations? Could be a
thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps? I know there must be
online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv-
ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly
technical off-road.

TIA,
Tse-Sung
Berkeley

ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration
Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took
the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El
Sobrante. A really nice ride. Met some very nice dogs too :-)

More:

http://g.co/maps/dq3c7

Hit the "3D" button on the left, to fly it.

[Way Rebb]

I have something called 511 bike mapper in my links list:

http://511contracosta.org/bike/#

I've used it to find rides but never set them up.

Regards,
Ray

[Smitty-A-Go-Go]

I too am on the hunt for new places to ride but I've found more locally oriented sources to be the most helpful. This list is too geographically spread out. I'd suggest you get a local map and dive into google. I've found lots of great ride reports and useful info this way. Now all I gotta do is free up the next 35 weekends so I can go explore them all. 

Good luck on the hunt.    

--Smitty

[Philip Williamson]

I used Bikely a few years ago, but now I've mostly plotted things out
in Google Maps, usually after the ride. My MO is to set out, get lost,
get found, and have a good time.

I just tagged a Google map I made yesterday (in 97128 zip) as
"Rivendell friendly," but I can't see how to search public maps. It
may just take a while to propagate. If it works, we can simply make
our maps, tag them consistently, and done. Ideally, you can go to
"Carlton OR" on Google Maps and search for 'rivendell.' It's a mixed-
terrain route from the McMinnville bike shop to the Flying M ranch (I
want to attend a bike thing there in May).
 Philip
Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

On Jan 2, 10:54 am, TSW <tsesun...@gmail.com> wrote:

[René Sterental]

I'll have to try this ride sometime... seems like a lot of fun!

 

René

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[Philip Williamson]

I made a map, added the phrase "Rivendell Friendly" to it, and tried
to find it, both in GMaps, and in GGoogle. There doesn't seem to be
any searchability in personal maps, even if they're public. Ideally, I
could zoom in on Orange County, type "Rivendell Ride" in the maps
search and find five or six mapped rides, but I can't. I imagine
that's on the agenda for Google, someday, but not today.

I agree with Tse-Tsung that a database of "Rivendell" rides would be
dynamite. I like easy, I like central, so I'd vote for a thread here.

Here's a test map for a route I saved: a mixed terrain ride from
McMinnville, Oregon to the Flying M ranch, where bike events are
sometimes held.

So: link, description, location-specific keywords.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=208780260535319597769.0004b57dbfa8652517590&msa=0
"Bicycle route from Tommy's Bike Shop in McMinnville to the Flying M
Ranch in Yamhill. Mixed Terrain, Rivendell friendly Willamette Valley
ride. Lots of gravel, some climbing. Staying off of Westside Road,
because there's no shoulder, low visibility, and the hay trucks go
70mph.
McMinnville, Carlton, Yamhill, Oregon, 97128, Southwest of Portland,
OR."

Philip

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Jan 2, 2:04 pm, Philip Williamson <philip.william...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[TSW]

Yes- my first 'country bike' ride. It started out pretty downhill,
then rolling hills. Must do again, or try variants; head further
east, or the Marin headlands, etc. It's nice to be cruising along in
the wilderness, no car traffic.

Tse-Sung

[TSW]

Yes, I've never figured out how to save routes the way one could in
Yahoo Maps.

But this is quite cool: you use its smartphone app or a GPS, and it
maps your route, which you can post, share, etc.

http://www.strava.com/rides/my-revenge-x2-at-montezuma-grade-2856587

Notice that you can get avg speed in various segments. I'm guessing
they're crowd-sourced named.

Searching isn't great, it seems. I wonder if it'd be possible to
create a public "Riv-ish" collection of routes.

Tse-Sung
Berkeley

On Jan 3, 12:26 am, Philip Williamson <philip.william...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I made a map, added the phrase "Rivendell Friendly" to it, and tried
> to find it, both in GMaps, and in GGoogle. There doesn't seem to be
> any searchability in personal maps, even if they're public. Ideally, I
> could zoom in on Orange County, type "Rivendell Ride" in the maps
> search and find five or six mapped rides, but I can't. I imagine
> that's on the agenda for Google, someday, but not today.
>
> I agree with Tse-Tsung that a database of "Rivendell" rides would be
> dynamite. I like easy, I like central, so I'd vote for a thread here.
>
> Here's a test map for a route I saved: a mixed terrain ride from
> McMinnville, Oregon to the Flying M ranch, where bike events are
> sometimes held.
>

> So: link, description, location-specific keywords.http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=208780260535319597769.0004b57dbfa...

[Bill M.]

Strava is tied to GPS recording, and seems a little too oriented to
"look how fast I did this climb" for my taste. The home page says
"Track your progress and compete against friends". Not really the
attitude I expect prevails around this list. I don't need to share my
watt output with the world to share a nice bike route.

Bikely or Map My Ride might work better for route sharing and
searching without a competitive attitude. Both have some tagging
capability, but "mixed terrain'' doesn't seem to be a category either
has caught on to.

Gmap-pedometer is a pretty basic tool that allows you to build and
save routes in Google maps without logins or memberships. The route
names are strictly numeric as far as I can tell, which makes searching
them difficult, but they can be shared publicly. Here's one (paved)
route I created as an example:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3765211

Bill

[Philip Williamson]

I like that by posting links here, we can use any mapping site we
like, which seems 5x as inclusive.
A short description of length, difficulty, and location, along with
the link is probably useful for long-term searchability. City, County/
Parish, state, length, road surface ('mixed terrain'), and features
like "ocean" or "mountains" might be good keywords to include. If
they're posted to this thread, "database" would filter for it, since
that's not a word I see on the list very often.

Philip

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

[TSW]

That might work- use searchable terms in the body of the post, and
something descriptive and easy to sort in the Subject line:

Subject: Trail Database: [location, state, approx mileage]

e.g.,

Subject: Trail Database: Berkeley, CA, 12 miles

Then a fuller description and links in the body.

BTW, one of our local clubs uses this shorthand for describe rides:

http://www.grizzlypeakcyclists.org/rides/current.html

Cheers,
ts
berkeley


On Jan 4, 12:47 am, Philip Williamson <philip.william...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Horace]

When I lived in Berkeley, my favorite mixed-terrain route was to take
the seaview trail from Inspiration Point up to Grizzly Peak. The
on-road parts of the ride varied, but it was typical to go up Spruce
and come down Claremont or Tunnel. No Rivendells back then, so I did
it on a 700c hybrid Miyata.

Horace.

[TSW]

We were thinking of doing that- but Seaview is wicked steep at the
very beginning- probably'd have to walk our bikes. Once one the ridge
it's nice- short.

http://g.co/maps/nbgdy

I love this multi-trail thing: what a great way to get out of traffic,
into nature, but still feel fast and smooth once on the asphalt.

Tse-Sung