Sackville Saddlebag Support

[Adam]

Greetings All,

I use a Sackville Saddlebag size medium - http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassm.htm
and I'm getting some rub on my rear tire.

I am thinking of purchasing a carradice bagman support, expedition
size, and wonder if anyone else has used this combination? I was
originally looking for a silver hupe but they have been discontinued.
If you have a used hupe or a bagman support for sale please let me
know.

Thanks,
Adam

[David Spranger]

I use the Sackville medium with a Carradice Bagman Expedition. Works great together. Keeps the bag at a perfect angle for me.

[rcnute]

Hi, Adam: I have a hupe that's like new if you want it.

Ryan

On Jun 3, 12:26 pm, Adam <oceanm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings All,
>

> I use a Sackville Saddlebag size medium -http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassm.htm

[Manuel Acosta]

I highly suggest a rack, if your planning any outdoor trip. The carradice quick release is great but the actual support starts to wiggle after a couple bumpy rides. The hupe I hear good things only if you plan on packing light with the bag. Anything heavy and the hupe cuts into your frame.

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I have used a Carradice Bagman for a couple of years on my Quickbeam with a tweed Country Bag (obviously smaller than the Saddlesack Medium, but I do sometimes load the Country Bag pretty heavily, so it's still a useful comparison).  I have found the Bagman connections between the tubes of the support piece and the anchor they attach to (which in turn clamps onto the saddle rails) to be very finicky.  I could never get one of the set screws tight enough to hold the tube in the anchor piece, so for the last couple of years it's been hacked with a John's strap holding it in.  And yesterday on a bit of a rough off-road piece of a ride the whole thing came off.

 

Like Manny, I'd suggest finding a rack that fits.  On my Quickbeam, I'm replacing the Bagman tonight with a Nitto R-10 ( http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=146_240&products_id=872&zenid=daf845816b6d8fb7337c0d9f47c9aafb ), and replacing the Tweed Nigel Country Bag with a Tweed Saddlesack Medium.  I think they'll match up well, and the R-10 is barely heavier (if at all) than the Bagman.

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville Saddlebag Support

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[TSW]

Really- how heavy?  Have others had this happen- the hupe digging into your frame?

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

I tried an R-10 at one time. I had thigh interference from the clamp around the seatpost on my Hillborne. I also note that for me the platform was significantly higher than the platform of a Mark's Rack's or a more typical rear rack's could be. Those two things together made me not like it as much as I wanted to. I like the ideas of the seat post attachment and the relatively small platform for some loads.

 

Interestingly, I've used the Viva saddlebag support once sold by VO with better effect. It did not present interference issues. Its platform was higher than ideal, but I have been able to make use of it effectively. I don't know where to get one now, assuming they're still available.

 

As always, YMMV.

 

I do wish Nitto would make a strong seatpost mounted rack with a lower platform and a lower profile seatpost attachment. I really like the idea of the R-10.

 

I also wish someone would come up with a bag quick-release which would work effectively with sprung saddles. I note that Carradice or Bagman sells the quick-release portion of the Bagman QR supports separately. I might give that a try with a sprung saddle sometime. But it doesn't incorporate a handle by which to carry the bag off the bike. I really like having that handle.

 

Yours,

Thomas Lynn Skean

 

On Monday, June 4, 2012 9:19:34 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

... 

Like Manny, I'd suggest finding a rack that fits.  On my Quickbeam, I'm replacing the Bagman tonight with a Nitto R-10 ( http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=146_240&products_id=872&zenid=daf845816b6d8fb7337c0d9f47c9aafb ), and replacing the Tweed Nigel Country Bag with a Tweed Saddlesack Medium.  I think they'll match up well, and the R-10 is barely heavier (if at all) than the Bagman.

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville Saddlebag Support

[PATRICK MOORE]

One liability with all these saddle- or seatpost-mount bag supports is
their weight limit; I think the Carradice SQR (= seatpost quick
release) device has the heaviest limit, but that is only 10 kg or 22
lb. You can get much more than that into a large saddlebag. So,
another recommendation for a rack.The Tubus Fly (and, if you are
picky, the stainless steel equivalent model) are very light (12 oz),
stiff and are rated for 20 kg, IIRC. I've carried 45 lb, but in
panniers.

Personally, when I get to large volumes, I much prefer saddlebags for
the volume, weight capacity and flexibility and smaller effect on
handling. I've used all sizes of saddlebags (and ain't sellin' my
Hoss, neither).

[Mike On A Bike]

I'll be getting a Carradice Bagman Expedition now, as the Nitto Wire
Guard I purchased has proven to provide insufficient clearance on my
Hillborne.

So, anybody looking to buy a Nitto Wire Guard for $30 shipped?

On Jun 4, 2:32 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One liability with all these saddle- or seatpost-mount bag supports is
> their weight limit; I think the Carradice SQR (= seatpost quick
> release) device has the heaviest limit, but that is only 10 kg or 22
> lb. You can get much more than that into a large saddlebag. So,
> another recommendation for a rack.The Tubus Fly (and, if you are
> picky, the stainless steel equivalent model) are very light (12 oz),
> stiff and are rated for 20 kg, IIRC. I've carried 45 lb, but in
> panniers.
>
> Personally, when I get to large volumes, I much prefer saddlebags for
> the volume, weight capacity and flexibility and smaller effect on
> handling. I've used all sizes of saddlebags (and ain't sellin' my
> Hoss, neither).
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean
>

[ted]

I Have a bagman support and I find that after some minor rework it is
quite solid.
I adjusted the bends of the rod to suit my country bag better.
I also made an indent in the rod that the set screw seats in (I think
I used a drill).
Before doing that I did have problems with the rod working its way out
of the clamp, but since then it has held great.

On Jun 4, 7:19 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J"

<Thomas.Alling...@skadden.com> wrote:
> I have used a Carradice Bagman for a couple of years on my Quickbeam with a tweed Country Bag (obviously smaller than the Saddlesack Medium, but I do sometimes load the Country Bag pretty heavily, so it's still a useful comparison).  I have found the Bagman connections between the tubes of the support piece and the anchor they attach to (which in turn clamps onto the saddle rails) to be very finicky.  I could never get one of the set screws tight enough to hold the tube in the anchor piece, so for the last couple of years it's been hacked with a John's strap holding it in.  And yesterday on a bit of a rough off-road piece of a ride the whole thing came off.
>

> Like Manny, I'd suggest finding a rack that fits.  On my Quickbeam, I'm replacing the Bagman tonight with a Nitto R-10 (http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=146_2...), and replacing the Tweed Nigel Country Bag with a Tweed Saddlesack Medium.  I think they'll match up well, and the R-10 is barely heavier (if at all) than the Bagman.

>
> ________________________________
> From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Manuel Acosta
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 5:49 PM
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville Saddlebag Support
>
> I highly suggest a rack, if your planning any outdoor trip. The carradice quick release is great but the actual support starts to wiggle after a couple bumpy rides. The hupe I hear good things only if you plan on packing light with the bag. Anything heavy and the hupe cuts into your frame.
>
> On Sunday, June 3, 2012 12:26:52 PM UTC-7, Adam wrote:
>
> Greetings All,
>

> I use a Sackville Saddlebag size medium -http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassm.htm

> and I'm getting some rub on my rear tire.
>
> I am thinking of purchasing a carradice bagman support, expedition
> size, and wonder if anyone else has used this combination? I was
> originally looking for a silver hupe but they have been discontinued.
> If you have a used hupe or a bagman support for sale please let me
> know.
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
>
> On Sunday, June 3, 2012 12:26:52 PM UTC-7, Adam wrote:
>
> Greetings All,
>

> I use a Sackville Saddlebag size medium -http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassm.htm

> and I'm getting some rub on my rear tire.
>
> I am thinking of purchasing a carradice bagman support, expedition
> size, and wonder if anyone else has used this combination? I was
> originally looking for a silver hupe but they have been discontinued.
> If you have a used hupe or a bagman support for sale please let me
> know.
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
>
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[Joe Bernard]

The hupe is a danger to your paint just trying to install it. It's a bugger to get right, so if you're as paranoid about nicks/scratches as I am, you might want to avoid it. I too have heard reports that it will dig in if heavily loaded. If I ever use mine again, it will be on a pre-beausaged bicycle.

 

Joe Bernrd

Vallejo, CA.

[Minh]

Just to add my two cents, i use a nitto uplift (it's kinda like a bagman only upside down), but that is only on my 'light' bike on which i carry my smaller saddlebags, if it was loaded i'd be worried about sag. 

as others point out i'd suggest a rear rack, either an r14 (top rack) or a mark's rack, i know both options are quite expensive now, but if my primary carry system was a saddlebag i'd consider it analogous to buying a rear rack to support panniers.

i recently got a set of berthoud saddlebags that came with their threadless stem + cradle that bolts to the seatpost, this is really secure and easy to get a bag on/off (because it supports the bag from the bottom so buckling the straps is no problem), but it looks terrible when there is no bag on the bike.  i also want to weigh it as in the hand it seems heavier then a marks or r14