Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

[Peter M]

And boy are my arms tired. Out for a late night ride so rode over to
the shore path but by the time I got back my arms were killing me. I
have been juggling a few different bikes lately but my latest setup is
a 56cm Homer (650b-Hetres) with a 10cm technomic and Albatross bars,
about 1 inch above the saddle. I rode MTBs for most of my youth then
fixies for a while with bullhorn bars so not sure if it is an issue of
the bars being too close or not. I finally did a proper measurement
and have a 85pbh and am 5'11" with a longish torso. I was looking at
a Bombadil so I could stay with 650b and to possibly to try and strech
me out a bit but was thinking that the 52 would be basically the same
as what I have now but the 56 might be a bit tight with standover. Was
told by Rivendell that I could go either way but I ride in NYC so I
do need to straddle the top tube every now and then at the longer
traffic lights. I cant see doing any actual MTBing outside of fire
trails so not so concerned about bail outs over the top tube. I am
throwing myself to the knowledge of the group here yet again to see if
anyone has some wise words. Thank you all.

[MSmith]

Peter M wrote:

"...my arms were killing me.  I
have been juggling a few different bikes lately..."

I suggest you stop juggling bicycles and your arms will stop hurting.

Or maybe start by juggling balls or beanbags, then clubs, then maybe chainsaws or bowling balls.  It takes a lot of practice before you start with bicycles.  By that time your arms will be used to it and they won't hurt as much.

Good luck- Mike

[Peter Morgano]

That must be it, damn 8th grade girlfriend taught me all wrong most likely. I will start juggling carbon bikes, they are so lightweight after all.

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[Joe Bernard]

I tried Albas on several different bikes, and even though I have short
arms, the reach-back was too much. I felt cramped and my hands/arms
hurt.

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

[cyclotourist]

IMHO, A-bars work best when they are significantly above the saddle and way forward. The Nitto non-dlx Technomic works great for this. If that's what you have, pull it up some more, and then maybe swap out for a 12cm. Here's what mine looked like after I went all in. Prior to that w/ a Tech-Dlx maxed out about an inch or so above saddle was ok, but not great. It really took that extra height and reach to make it just right. Looks kinda' funny, but it works great!

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[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Wow. 85PBH meets 85SO. When bone meets steel, you don't flesh in between...

But... If you don't use 55mm tires (doesn't RBW measure stand over with a maximum sized tire?) and if you are likely to straddle the bike behind the mid-point (I.e. don't have a large backside forcing you forward), and since RBW gives a thumb's up... I'd say go for the 56 Bombadil. It'll definitely differ from the 56 Hilsen. I wouldn't go buying up 14cm stems or anything... I think your current 10cm (not max'd out vertically) is a decent starting point. You might even wind up with a shorter extension. In fact, you may want not to get a stem with a shorter quill. It is possible to insert a quill too deeply, right?

Sounds like a job for a 150mm Bullmoose bar!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
who wonders whether a 66cm-wide bar works in NYC

[PATRICK MOORE]

You might look at your saddle position. Peter Jon White has much good
to say about where to put it so that your torso and not your arms hold
you up. It works for me.

In fact, it was Grant long ago who told me, get your saddle back and
your bars up and back, and it fixed my position problems. Note that
"bars up and back" meant 8 cm extension and 3-5 cm below bar instead
of 140 mm extension and 5 inches below bar.

Broken record: butt back helps your torso hold itself up.

Patrick "long torso" Moore

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[Thomas Lynn Skean]

crap... errata...

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...you don't *want* flesh in between...

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and

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"you may want not to get a stem with a shorter quill"

should not have "not" in it

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Sorry!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I needed to get either a Nitto lugged seatpost (expensive) or a Velo
Orange seatback seatpost in order to get my seat far enough back to
take the weight off my hands. I also have a long torso.

Toshi

[cyclot...@gmail.com]

Don't forget Paul Comp's offering: http://paulcomp.com/seatpost.html  Kinda' long for a road bike, but it can be cut down. Price point between the Nitto and VO one. FWIW, I had to send my VO back as it was out of spec and slipped.

[Seth Vidal]

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM, cyclot...@gmail.com
<cyclot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't forget Paul Comp's offering: http://paulcomp.com/seatpost.html  Kinda'
> long for a road bike, but it can be cut down. Price point between the Nitto
> and VO one. FWIW, I had to send my VO back as it was out of spec and
> slipped.
>
>

I had the same issue. the seatpost had been over-polished was the
explanation I was given.

-sv

[cyclot...@gmail.com]

That's a lot of buffing!

[Peter Morgano]

I do have the VO setback post right  now, no issues with slipping, thankfully and I have the stem as far up as it can reasonably go and still have arm pain.  I was thinking the 56 Bomba might solve my problem since it would extend the top tube and still give me at least a bit of standover with Hetres on it. I doubt I would or could go big knobby tires but since most of my riding is on NYC streets or dirt paths so doubtful I would need anything like that. I really dont want to go longer/taller stem since I can feel it flex up front when I am climbing hills and holding the bars. The fact that I am 250 also moves me towards the Bomba as well. Keep an eye out for a potential 650b Hilsen for sale in the next few weeks I think.

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