Shimano 9spd DA Downtube Shifters in Bar End Pods?

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ekoral

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Sep 30, 2012, 2:18:04 AM9/30/12
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Hey Y'all,

I've got kind of an interesting issue-

I'm trying out some indexing (not something I usually like) on my atlantis, and I've got a real pretty set of dura ace 9spd downtube shifters (SL-7700) that i'm sticking in the bar end pods that used to house my silvers.

Has anyone tried this?

 It seems to shift okay, but for some reason there is no 'click' when i shift into the largest cog position. Is this normal? is it only supposed to have seven clicks, and then you just sort of hope the shifter stays when you're in your largest gear? That doesn't seem quite right to me. It will shift when you push it to it's last position, but it doesn't have that satisfying "I'm not moving an inch" click sound that all of the other positions have. 

Let me know if you folks have any idea of whats going on!

Thanks,
Eli

Michael Hechmer

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Sep 30, 2012, 8:15:14 AM9/30/12
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I use the DA BE's on our tandem and they work pretty well.  I don't remember the end cog shifting any different.  My only complaint is that they seem to need an overshift.  I often shift with the click then need to go another mm to move the chain.

Michael 

Steve Palincsar

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Sep 30, 2012, 8:16:04 AM9/30/12
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On Sun, 2012-09-30 at 05:15 -0700, Michael Hechmer wrote:
> I use the DA BE's on our tandem and they work pretty well. I don't
> remember the end cog shifting any different. My only complaint is
> that they seem to need an overshift. I often shift with the click
> then need to go another mm to move the chain.

I think you need to add some tension to the shifter cable.



lungimsam

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Sep 30, 2012, 11:26:27 AM9/30/12
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Are you using an adapter for the lever/pod interface?
Is it an actual Shimano Pod?
 

lungimsam

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Sep 30, 2012, 12:24:21 PM9/30/12
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Here are your tech docs for your SL-7700. Maybe these can help:
 
I have a Shimano SL-7800 DT shifter lever on my Shimano bar end pod.
Don't know if I can help any.
It clicks into every gear on my 10-speed cassette. Indexing works great.
Friction wit it seems to be trickier.

lungimsam

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Sep 30, 2012, 12:28:15 PM9/30/12
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Ideas:
 
 
1. Maybe your limit screw needs to be let out a bit to let the lever travel far enough so it will click?
 
2. Sometimes the DT lever cable hole doesn't line up correctly with the hole in the pod. You may need a spacer, or the DT-to-pod adapter to get things interfaced better?
 
3. Did you line up the arrow on the shifter housing correctly with the lever when you mounted it to the pod?  See the tech doc above for how to do it.

ascpgh

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Sep 30, 2012, 2:34:56 PM9/30/12
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While I agree on the bare facts with Steve, I have to add that on our tandem w/ Shimano bar end shifters which replaced the "broke-at-most-inopportune-time" OEM brifters and I have found some delayed signal effect of my shifter inputs when waiting for the drivetrain to respond.

This bike has vast runs of housing instead of strategic placement of housing stops and bare cable down the long runs of frame tubes between the bars and the derailleurs. There is simply too much compression within even the most outstanding cable sets not to feel slow and unadjusted. I just live with it or switch to friction once out of the noisier areas where I cannot hear the clatter from the drivetrain over everything else.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

Chris

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Sep 30, 2012, 2:50:54 PM9/30/12
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I have the same setup on my wife's Betty. Are you using the Shimano or Silver pods? There is a difference between them I find. Use the Shimano pods if you can locate a pair. There are these orientation markings on the Shimano spacers that they can only be inserte into the pods in a certain way.

The shifting does get a bit tricky when you reach either of the ends. The shifter seems to run out of room and doesn't quite click as smoothly. However, with some fine tuning of the tension, it will shift to all gears with no problem (at least on the Betty).

lungimsam

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Sep 30, 2012, 3:41:45 PM9/30/12
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My SIS indexing works great across the whole cassette. So I think yours could too. I feel no resistance when moving the levers. Every gear change clicks nicely, even to the extremes of the cassette.
 
And, my housing goes from the barends all the way up the bars and comes outta da bartape at the stem. So I know you can do it with lotsa housing, at least on a Bleriot with drop bars.
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