The bike collection (or hoard?)

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mike

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Jun 17, 2011, 6:49:27 PM6/17/11
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Sort of related to "Rivs in the Rafters", but started as a new thread
here since there's little Riv content. And none in my rafters.

I have some tendency to hoard (my first and only Riv is in the
building stage (S1)) and my wife tends to want to get rid of stuff.
That makes for a good balance.

A couple of weeks ago I went to an estate sale. I just happened to
ride by and stopped in. Holy Crap! What an amazing collection of
wonderful useless crap. It truly made me want to go home and throw
something away.

I remember something Grant wrote about the optimum number of bikes.
It was at least seven. A go fast, touring, single speed, beater, one
under repair, a loaner, I can't remember the rest.

My bikes:

Probably early 70s, French, Probably Mercier frame. Probably their
closest thing to the Pugeot PX-10. The bare frame is hanging in the
garage, stripped for parts about a year ago. It needs to go.

1986 Vitus 979. I've ridden it a lot recently. Even tried it with 26
inch wheels. I sort of like that!. The BB is a little bit low, but
it's ridable. It's lovely, great components on it. It needs to go.

Two 1986 Stumpjumpers, one "Sport" one regular. These have been my
commuters for a while.

My not yet completely assembled Simple One.

I really need to consolidate down to fewer bikes. I can't ride them
all and it's too much work to keep them all maintained.

Mojo

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Jun 18, 2011, 9:32:55 AM6/18/11
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I have that magic 7 stable. I really want to downsize but can't bear
to do it yet.
Towny (1966 Robin Hood 3 speed)
ATB (Salsa Ala Carte)
Allrounder (Riv 1996)
Road (Riv 2001 custom)
Single (2006? Quickbeam)
Tour/cargo (2007 Surly LHT)
Cross (2010 Legolas).

The towny and Single are extra and overlapped and could go. But every
time I ride them, I change my mind. One nice thing about 7 bikes is
rediscovering them. I was riding the Legolas for fun and fitness most
of the early spring. When I started commuting on the Q it was just a
hoot. And the road standard came out a couple of weeks ago. OMG what a
wonderful sweet ride! My favorite bike of all time. My wife tolerates
all of them. I guess my kids will have to sell them.

Mike

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Jun 18, 2011, 10:27:02 AM6/18/11
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I'm totally ashamed to admit I'm at 5 bikes. That seems excessive.
There's also a ton of overlap with them. Oh well.

Surly Cross Check--Singlespeed with Albatross bars and used for my
daily commute to work.
Surly LHT--Camping/touring all-rounder. A fantastic bike. Maybe my
favorite due to it's versatility.
Johsua Bryant--Custom randonneuring bike.
Rivendell A. Homer Hilson--Purchased new from Rivendell in 2008 and
the bike I will never part with. Probably the bike with the most
sentimental attachment as I've toured, randonneured and explored on
this bike extensively.
Rivendell Quickbeam--Purchased used off this list.

Chances are good that in the fall I'll sell the CC. The Albatross bars
that are on it now will go on the LHT for winter commuting duties.
Maybe I'll add another bike next year, perhaps a Surly Troll set-up as
an all road touring camping mountain bike machine. I think what I'd
really like to add would be a Surly Big Dummy but storage is the issue
for that.

--mike

PATRICK MOORE

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Jun 18, 2011, 10:40:27 AM6/18/11
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Riv custom 571 bsd gofast fixed gear
Riv custom 559 bsd commuter fixed gear (Consider it a gofast with
fenders, light racks and bags and dyno lights.)
Salsa Fargo -- off road bike (I wanted a 29er that can both take the
fattest tires 700C out there and that has a more or less touring bike
geometry.)
1958 Herse randonneur

The Fargo was meant to combine off road, touring and errand functions
(it has fenders, rack and dyno light) with two wheelsets but Herse
overlaps with the latter two as it does, too, with the second Riv. I
am tempted to ss-ify the Fargo -- we'll see.

Oh, and I want Ryan Watson to sell me his fat-tired, Electra Ticino
cruiser fixed gear ....

It would be nice to add a very light ss 29er; but ss-ifying the Fargo
would to some extent fill that niche.

Choices, choices.

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Kelly Sleeper

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Jun 18, 2011, 11:22:34 AM6/18/11
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AHH my favorite all time of any bike I've ever owned.
Bombadil with albatross bars 700x50's and a basket... Perfect around town and touring
Giant fixed gear.. Very aggressive 2 feet of seat post but has history
Giant OCR tour bike. While all the carbon fibre race bikes came and went this one remains. Great loaner, wonderful memories.. Just doesn't compare to the newer rivs.
Giant Trance X1 mountain bike. Collect dust mostly. Broke an elbow on it have YouTube video of me riding into water to deep and too cold.. And can't get enough to make it worth selling.

Tandems and wife's bikes don't count so it appears I need more bikes... Still looking for 68 cm qb hint hint

Zack

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Jun 18, 2011, 11:25:54 AM6/18/11
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The GP quotation about how many bikes you should own is great -

(paraphrasing, can't remember where I saw it):

"You should have seven:
A town bike, a single speed, a loaded tourer, a commuter, a bike you
aren't afraid to ride in the rain, an off-roader, a go-fast bike, a
beater, and a fixed gear.

Oh wait, that's nine. Nine it is then."

Ahahaha I read that to my wife when she was talking about instituting
a "one in one out policy" on bikes. She didn't think it was as funny
as I did. She gave me that look - you know the one, where it's like
"what on earth was I thinking when I married you."

Good times!
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Ray Shine

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Jun 18, 2011, 12:42:30 PM6/18/11
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I own four Riv's and one Rawland and between them all, I have all nine of the bikes that GP refers to!  (I just donated a seldom used Dahon folder.)


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jimD

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Jun 18, 2011, 1:28:04 PM6/18/11
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I'm well short of Grant's magic number.

Since I got my Riv custom it's pretty much all I ride though it is still fender-less. 
Consequently the Saluki gets ridden in inclement weather. 
Two other bikes languish in the garage

It would be fun if the masterful Dr. Douglas Brooks was still frequenting this list.
He has thoughts, an outlook, and number of bikes that are truly inspiring.
His writing is different than Grant's but just as thoughtful and fun to experience.
His appreciation of bicycles serves as some sort of benchmark

JimD

wanting more bikes, needing none. 
I'm not hoarder, I'll call myself a collector. 
I Feel better now.

Rob

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Jun 18, 2011, 7:41:39 PM6/18/11
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Wow--I am SO far behind. ;) I just have one bike, my 62cm 650B Saluki. I'd amend the grand seven-bike list a bit to six, in descending order of likelihood I'll ever own 'em: city, roughstuff, single-speed, cargo, vintage, tandem.

Current
  • Rivendell Saluki:  now the do-it-all, go-fast, camper, grocery-getter & commuter. A true all-rounder.
Coming Soon
  • Rawland rSogn: will be the roughstuff camper, gravel roader, low-trail front-loader. Depending on how it rides it may replace the Saluki altogether, or let the Saluki become the go-fast bike, if I take the rear rack off and put the Pari-Motos back on. Should be all the "mountain bike" I need. Because it'll fit fatter tires than the Saluki, and do everything the Saluki will do, it could be all the bike I need. But heck, what fun is that...? So:
Wish List
  • Brompton folder: Really enjoying reading The Path Less Pedaled, and noticing how many times it'd be handy to be able to stuff a bike in the trunk of a car. A Brompton could be the city bike.
  • Surly Big Dummy with Stoke Monkey: Rode one of these a couple weeks ago--what a hoot! My eight-year-old loved it! At ~$4000 though, we'll likely buy a car first instead.
  • Rivendell SimpleOne or Quickbeam: Very curious about the single-speed idea. If I ever sold the Saluki I'd have to get another Rivendell somehow....
  • Davidson Custom: Not sure how it'd fit in the scheme of things, but Bill sure makes nice bikes. It'd could be in lieu of a vintage bike--a 700c lightweight. Or else, having explored high and low trail with the Saluki and rSogn, a custom, integrated bike that combines the best of both.
  • Either a Bike Friday Tandem Traveler, or a Co-Motion Periscope Scout. We had a Bike Friday Triple Traveler for a while, but I'd like to try a larger wheeled tandem too.

Fun speculation for a rainy day. Right now I'm working on finding a way to pay the rest of the deposit on the rSogn and build it up, so anything beyond that is definitely dreamland at the moment. Seems to me though a bike would have to have really different capabilities to make it a worthwhile investment. Otherwise, I'd rather just ride a versatile, super-nicely-equipped all-rounder like my Saluki. A small-wheeled folder definitely fits that bill, as does a cargo-bike that'll carry two kids. A single-speed is more of a fun thing, as would be a tandem.

Rob in Seattle

EricP

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Jun 18, 2011, 9:57:12 PM6/18/11
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Three. Rivendell Sam Hillborne. Was sort of iffy on it earlier this
year, but decided it will stick around.
Surly Cross Check. Set up as a 1x9 with Soma Clarence bars. My
"beater". Also the newest of the bikes.
Surly Long Haul Trucker. 58cm 26" wheel model. I like the idea of a
larger frame 26" wheel touring bike. Gets studded tires in winter.

Am currently selling my Salsa Fargo. Have discovered that long gravel
rides and my left hand are not a good combination. A week after a 110
mile ride my left hand still hurts and has a bit of "hand in glove"
symptoms.

All above bikes have fenders and racks.

Wish list - SimpleOne. Yes, spacers and a single speed cog would work
on the Cross Check. Still want the SimpleOne as I like the color.

Strangely enough, still feel my current stable is excessive. But not
sure I could cut it down any further. Luck for me, my wife is
understanding. And only wants one bike of her own.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

Dave Craig

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Jun 18, 2011, 10:25:48 PM6/18/11
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For the true addict there is always (n + 1) = number of bikes to own.
Where "n" is the number of bikes currently in the garage.

In my queue as +1 candidates: Bike Friday, Salsa Fargo, SS MTB.

My current hoard is:

Rivendell AHH (65cm) - set up as a comfortable road bike with drops.
Rivendell Bombadil (60cm) - with bullmoose bars. My MTB and off road
explorer.
Rivendell Quickbeam (64cm) - drop bars, fenders, racks and a front
basket. My favorite commuter
Surly 62cm, 26-inch wheel tourer. Drop bars, fully racked and
fendered. My favorite tourer ever (including Atlantis and Bombadil).
Surly Big Dummy bar ends and riser bars (2x8 gearing) - My "SUV"
commuter, grocery getter, rain bike and semi truck (with a burly
trailer)
Soma Smoothie ES - (64cm). Light wheels, skinny tires - go fast
Surly Crosscheck (62cm) - Frankenbike loaner.

Yup . . . that's seven.

Dave
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Forrest

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Jun 18, 2011, 11:25:33 PM6/18/11
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I allow myself two at a time . . . if I want to get a third, then I
sell one, so end up with two. Every year to year and a half I sell and
acquire a bike. Not out of need or dissatisfaction -- I just like to
try new things.

Right now I've got a '99 Riv LongLow (59cm) and a recent model
Atlantis (58cm). That covers my full range of needs (which isn't all
that wide).

-- Forrest

Bill M.

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My stable:

1995 Riv Road Std, with 46-30 x 11-32 gearing and the widest tires it
will fit (32 mm Vittoria Rando Hypers), as my comfortable cruising/
exploring/century bike. I bought it new and expect the frame will
stay with me forever in one guise or another.

2006 (?) Calfee Tetra Pro, tutto Campagnolo, my go-fast club sport
bike. One of the very few carbon frames I would trust enough to own.
Bought used for a fraction of it's new price.

1984 Miyata 1000 tourer, my dedicated commuter bike. Bought new as a
frameset in 1983, another bike I never expect to sell.

1990-ish Steve Rex road bike, bought the frame used for a song in 1993
or 4. Currently set up as a fixed gear with inverted Albatross bars.
Great riding frame that's a bit too long for me, should have sold it
years ago.

1999 (?) Burley Django recumbent, bought when I was having some
medical problems that made riding an upright bike problematic. Hasn't
been ridden in two years now, I really need to sell this one.

Gen 1 Kogswell P/R, 650b. I commuted on this bike for a year, but
it's a bit small for me. Another bike I need to sell.

On order - Rawland rSogn, intended as an all-rounder, gravel roadster,
take camping, exploring bike.

Under consideration - Rawland Nordavinden, lightweight sportif/rando/
century bike with clearance for reasonably large tires. If I go with
one of these, it would inherit the Riv's current parts, the Riv would
go fixed (maybe with an S-A S3X three speed fixed gear hub), and the
Rex would go away. If I run into some money (not likely), an upgrade
to the proposed Ti version or to a Hampsten Crema, Riv Roadeo or
something comparable might be in the cards.

Bill

Bill Gibson (III)

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Jun 19, 2011, 1:44:39 AM6/19/11
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Hmm. Currently 3 for me? but I maintain a total of 5 in the family, and dream of a different group, similar to Grant's and other's ideals. I would like to surprise ma femme with a road bike that really fits her, but she need small wheels I think. (This gives me an idea for another thread). I might add a Velomobile, if I were a rich man. Ma femme will disapprove, convinced that no one needs more than one, and she is correct, of course.

1. Green Quickbeam, modified today for the first time with a donated SRAM i-Motion 9, which I built into a rear wheel, again, building a rear wheel from scratch for the first time. She's tension balanced, and true, and now with 9 speeds! Jack Browns are remarkably flat-free in this glassy, spiky place. Kinda worried about parking it for very long if I can't see it.

2. 1997 Cannondale F-1000 "Race Ready" Mountain Bike with Headshock, Made in the USA, with crazy light crack and fail cranks and frame, so far so good, town bike modified with Albatross bars, Brooks Champion, and mudguards, even though I live in the Urban Sonoran desert. Still worry about parking it around the University.

3. Co-Owner with ma femme of an Early 90's Gary Fisher Mountain Bike Tandem, Black with Splatter Paint Finish, lots of good old Shimano, and thumb shifters. Not ridden since I dumped her once and she got her R+E custom, which she really needs and loves (she is 4' 10"). Would not worry about parking it, it's too weird around here.

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Thomas Lynn Skean

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Jun 19, 2011, 5:58:19 AM6/19/11
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Two. If you count the bike that hasn't had wheels on it for 4 months.
And if you count 1 bike with four cockpits as one bike.

1) Wheel-less Trek 7300... Taped/twined/shellac'd Albatross on a
stilt, cork grips, racks and fenders, Grip Kings, B17. I was happy
with this bike until I got my...

2) 60cm double-top-tube canti Hillborne... Albatross/Moustache/
Bullmoose/Noodle cockpits, racks, fenders, Grip Kings, B17.

Original rationale was: Trek for commuting and errands and camping and
bad weather, Hillborne for weekend rides and the odd unloaded tour. I
would keep studded titres on Trek in winter and, if the snow didn't
warrant them and if I had no time to switch wheels I'd risk commuting
on the Hillborne as my backup plan. Stupid, ignorant rationale. I
quickly began riding the Hillborne exclusively for all of the
aforementioned purposes and intend to get another one next year so as
to have a studded/unstudded pair from which to choose for winter
commuting, and for general redundancy. The Hillborne of course does
everything I can do much more comfortably than the 7300 ever could. it
feels soooo right.

Still considering Hunqapillar instead of 2nd Hillborne. But the sizing
just doesn't seem right, so probably won't do it.

But the 2nd RBW bike the "hoard" will likely stay the same for several
years. Of course, a new bar/rack/bag now and then doesn't hurt...

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

Eric Daume

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Jun 19, 2011, 8:46:19 AM6/19/11
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I guess I'm an imposter on this list because I don't actually have any Rivs:

- Surly CC, 62cm: almost always set up single speed, whenever I put gears on it, they don't seem to last more than a ride or two. My budget QB, and my goto road and errand running bike.

- Salsa Fargo, XL: I'm mixed on this, I like the super comfiness of it (350mm uncut steerer puts the bars about 2.5" above the saddle), but it's kind of overkill for what I actually do with it, which is mostly pulling my child trailer (and some S24O action here and there). It may be for sale soon. I want to try the CC on some S24Os this year, or the Gunnar. I'm not big on disc brakes except for actual mountain biking.

- Gunnar Rockhound 29er: my 1x9 mountain bike, er also for sale... I've been eyeing some of the cheaper Ti frame lately...

- Specialized Tricross, 61cm: Intended to be my go fast bike and all around geared bike. I just did my first ride on this today. Kind of anti-Riv (alu/carbon construction, fat tubes), but it does have great tire clearance and slightly relaxed geo. Anyway, I've always liked these but held off because they were too expensive and looked too small. I got a good deal on the frameset, but my back after this morning's ride is still telling me too small. Even with all the zertz inserts and carbon bits, my CC still rides better.

I'm coming to the realization that flex = fun. The bikes I've enjoyed riding the most have tended to be steel and on the whippier side. I'm looking at some of the Rawland models, either the Nordavinden or their single speed frame, if they ever actually show up.

Eric Daume
Dublin, OH

PATRICK MOORE

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Jun 19, 2011, 9:50:34 AM6/19/11
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Eric: I'm curious about your ambivalence toward the SH: what qualities
make you hesitate?

Also, wrt to the Fargo: 110 miles on gravel would do my hands in too.
What sort of bars, and what sort of hand trouble? And what tires at
what pressure? I love my Fargo (I don't ride it anywhere near 110
miles, though) and after riding it for a year with bar 8 cm above
saddle center I just lowered the bars to 2-3 cm above (and closer in).
Noodles. Very comfortable in both positions, but flats and hoods with
the higher bar felt "tippy". I am thinking that I may go back to Bell
Laps for the shallower drop and shorter reach. (Mine is be-fendered
and be-racked, too.)

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Mike

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Jun 19, 2011, 9:52:00 AM6/19/11
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I should add that if money weren't a major issue I'd think heavily
about getting a Bike Friday. Ever since running into a guy touring on
one last year and talking with him about it I've had a desire for
one.

http://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/touring/1249

I was following this guy's touring exploits on his BF in South
America. Pretty impressive stuff.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moralinefree/5517251255/in/set-72157625792522028

--mike

Justin August

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Jun 19, 2011, 10:05:26 AM6/19/11
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1) 57cm Bleriot. Taking off fenders and Hetres. Putting on Soma BLines again. They are spritely and I really love the feel. Great bike. I need narrower drop bars though.

2) Motobecane Grand Jubilee. Having a SS 650b wheel set built right now. Going to out Hetres on it. Has nitto promenade bars. Love it. Thinking about a fork rerake and a porteur rack.

Bruce Herbitter

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Currently 5 in our garage have my name connected to them. Another one is the wife's and the 7th belongs to the grandson.

The oldest is early Nashbar Mk III that Ed Braley originally converted to 650B. I've changed the crankset to a compact double, and put a 14 - 27 Dura Ace FW on it. It's my weeknight hill training bike (its mustache bars are wonderful for climbing) and runs on Maxy Fastys at 65 psi. I replaced the original Selle San Marcos saddle with a Brooks, but have since found a Selle Anatomica to be far more comfortable. It's also a Sunday afternoon gent's bike.

It was offered at a great price, and I always thought I should try an MTB, so I have an '88  Bridgestone MB-2 Comp. triple butted tubing and bone stock original  (except for the broken in Brooks saddle I swapped over to it). Sadly, it gets no use beyond evening laps around the block. No where nearby to put knobby tires to use :( 

Next oldest is a 95 Riv Road Standard. Got the frame set used about two years ago, built it up and rode most of last year's miles on it. I also converted this bike to 650B and it is a dream on 38 mm Pari-Motos. This frame set just went to Airglow bicycle painting for a new paint job. Keeping the original color, but using cream on the lugs and crown. It'll be back in a couple of months, I am told. This is my raciest bike.

The touring bike bike is an early Saluki in Linda Blair green. The color actually grows on you after a while. I take it on club rides once in a while, but generally pull it out for real touring rides. Like a week long tour last month. Racks, fenders, 36 mm Ourson tires and a very nice ride. Well suited to long days in the saddle. Got this bike used in mid 2007 and manage to rack up plenty of miles on it each year.

Newest in terms of manufacture is the road sport Rambouillet. I don't think a custom would fit any better than this bike does.  Rode it on a hilly metric just yesterday. Super comfy on Pasela TGs at 75 psi. The XD crank gave way to an Ultegra 9 speed and the Brooks saddle was replaced with a Selle Anatomica, but it's pretty stock other than that. Got this bike in Jan 2007. Have 8,000 mi on it and it still looks good.

Joe Bernard

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Jun 19, 2011, 3:53:50 AM6/19/11
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This reminds me of the "Whatcha got?" threads on the Alex-era iBob
list.

Four:

2010 Greenspeed GT3: Recumbent tadpole trike.

1990 Bstone CB-Zip: My first exposure to Bridgestone was this model in
the 1991 Bicycling Buyer's Guide..finally got one. My black "V-O cafe
racer". V-O Porteur bars, stem and saddle.

1994 Bstone CB-1: Immaculate "barn find". I love the graphics of those
Final Year models, and the unusual colors. This one is cranberry.
"City biked" with Albatross bars, Technomic stem, cork "Meisha" grips,
Suntour Power Ratchet thumb shifters, V-O city brake levers, and a
wide Brooks saddle.

2006 Electra Amsterdam 3: Derided as a "fake Dutch bike", but I like
the big black cruiser. 3-speed Nexus hub with a coaster brake.
Previous owner added a BMX front caliper and city lever. I added creme
Shwalbe tires. Heavy. Slow. Fun!





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Frank Quan

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On Jun 18, 9:28 am, jimD <rasterd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm well short of Grant's magic number.

Me too. Only 3 here. Litespeed road bike, 1998 Riv commuter and
Surly Cross-Check set up as a fixed gear. Sometimes my wife lets me
ride her Electra Sunny Garcia but only if the tires need air.

islaysteve

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Jun 19, 2011, 11:39:17 AM6/19/11
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Only two for me, and it's likely to stay that way (which is fine):

Riv Bleriot, acquired and built up early this year. My one and only
riding bike right now as I'm getting back into it. Built it in a
pretty roadish configuration, with Nifty-Swiftys as of now. I want to
get into more dirt road (and such) riding with this bike, so I'll see
how these tires do. I'm loving this bike and will likely keep it for
a long, long time.

Performance Ti road bike, ca 1995, with custom paint. I'm very
sentimentally attached to this bike. It's not fully built at the
moment but could be without a lot of expense. As I ride more, I'm
realizing that there will be times when it'll be nice to have a fast
road bike again. So it's nice to know that I have one!

Happy Fathers Day, everyone!

Steve

Montclair BobbyB

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OK... While I admint I do have hoarding tendencies, I REALLY AM TRYING
to find homes for many of my bikes (and am confident I will)...
problem is, THESE will likely be replaced by OTHERS that I somehow....
uh.... "find?".....

Keepers:
Riv Bombadil (my main go-to bike for virtually everything...)
Niner MCR (geared 29er MTB, strictly trail)
85 Stumpjumper (all-rounder that is simply too pretty to part with)
86 Nishiki Prestige Road bike SS/fixie / 10-speed / 2-speed (I switch
between)
(coming) - Schwinn Corvette frame, to be custom painted (red), and
outfitted w/neo-retro wheels

Slated for others:
2008 Salsa Fargo (all around land beast)
86 Rockhopper (w/SRAM S7 IG hub)
85 chrome Mongoose MTB (w/Sturmey 8 speed IG/drum hub)
85 chrome Mongoose MTB (w/Deore derailleurs)
85 red Mongoose MTB (w/Deore derailleurs)
70s Gazelle Sport Luxe (being converted to 3-speed)
70s copper Roger (Argentinian-made) racer, being converting to
moustache bar SS/fixie urban ride (for a friend's son)

So as long as I make good on my pledge to move the bikes from column
B, I hope good karma will follow...

BB

Beth H

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Four:

'99 Longlow (original owner, I suspect this will be around until I
can't swing my leg over a top tube anymore. Now the weekend/long ride
unit)
'99 All-Rounder (second owner; this one fell out of the sky from an
abundant universe. My mostly-daily transpo)
2009 Redline Monocog singlespeed two-sixer (aka Stompy; my racing bike
for short-track and 'cross -- when I'm done racing I'll let this one
go)
2009 Surly BD (the farmers' market go-getter, musical instrument
chauffeur and recycling hauler and just about the most bang-for-buck
ever in a cargo bike)

(Spousal bike: Sweetie rides a '94 B'Stone XO-5 that she's quite fond
of. That makes five total.)

No room for more here at the postage-stamp-sized house that is Rancho
Beth, and I suspect that someday this will end up being only two or
three. I'm feeling the beginning of the end of my hardcore bike-lust/
acquisition days and there is definitely a sense of settling into
contentment with what I have bike-wise; it's been coming on for over a
year now and shows no signs of abating. Mostly these days I am just
into Riding. It's a good time.
Happy riding --Beth

jamison brosseau

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AHH 63
Bombadil 60
Atlantis 61
Betty Foy (still waiting on delivery) 62
80's univega mtb ?
96 rockhopper at my parents house in iowa
schwinn speedster at my parents house in iowa
unknown fillet braised cyclocross frame 58 , probably needs a new
home.
plus i went for the hs bike. so late this year or early next year a
suprise bike.
and i live in nyc, and im not gonna stop. weird priorities.
there is some ebb and flow, last year i got rid of 4 track frames, and
parts, but quickly used all that money for new bikes.
sickness.

nathan spindel

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I've finally got my stable down to two! I couldn't comfortably fit more in my new apartment.

1. Ebisu All-Purpose (58cm) - randonneuse
2. Box Dog Pelican (60cm) - porteur/commute/touring/trails (coming soon)

My lady's bikes:

1. Rivendell Saluki (50cm)
2. Vintage Motobecane mixte, upgraded to 700C, Albatross, front basket

Two bikes I'll be selling soon in the bay area (anyone interested?):

1. 1984 Specialized Sequoia (58cm) - converted to 650B, fenders, moustache
2. 1984 Specialized Sequoia (60cm) - converted to single speed, Jitensha flat bar

-nathan

Seth Vidal

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On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 2:26 PM, nathan spindel <nat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've finally got my stable down to two! I couldn't comfortably fit more in my new apartment.
>
> 1. Ebisu All-Purpose (58cm) - randonneuse
> 2. Box Dog Pelican (60cm) - porteur/commute/touring/trails (coming soon)
>


The pelican has been on my "hmmmm" list for a long while.

-sv

brian feltovich

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Stable's a little full right now.

Rambouillet (currently for sale!)

Rawland Sogn w/ S&S couplers set up to swap between 650B and 700c tires, using Paul's Motolite brakes (gravel and travel)

Sekai 4000 Professional ('79) w/ Campy 10-spd setup and Aerohead wheels (light and fast)

Ron Cooper (1985) reborn with VO 50.4 cranks, 10-spd barends, VO rims (light and fast)

Stumpjumper Sport (1984) w/ Riv bullmoose bars and Paul thumbies for city cruiser (for sale!)

Stumpjumper full-sus (2009) for local mtn biking on singletrack 

Surly Pugsley snowbike for local trails from Nov-May.

Currently lusting after a Calfee Dragonfly but have to win the lottery first. Sad I sold my nicely rebuilt Raleigh 3-spd and my Nishiki single-speed and my Surly CrossCheck. 

Brian 
Park City, UT


Dan Abelson

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I have three.

1.  Orange Rivendell Quickbeam -- Do everything bike from commuting to centuries.

2.  Rivendell AHH - second owner my "go fast" and gravel bike no fenders, compact double, but still has a rack (Tubus Vega- Silver).

3.  Surly Crosscheck set up as a 1 x8 my child trailer puller, foul weather/winter commuter etc.

Wish List

Surly Troll set up as a do it all offroad machine.



Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN

Jim Cloud

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I'm definitely out of the bike lust/acquisition mode at this time,
which is fine with me. I presently have two bikes, that I ride based
on my mood or application:

1977 - Custom Schwinn Paramount P-15; re-painted and restored by
CyclArt to their Cat. 1 level finish in 1997. Blue paint, red
pinstriped with lots of chrome and polished aluminum, mostly vintage
period correct components, but it was recently converted to 700c wheel
size with Tektro R556 brakes. A very handsome bike with a custom made
front rack including an integrated decaleur.

1996 - Rivendell Road Standard. Presently fitted as a Randonneur/
tourer with racks and fenders. Original champagne color custom paint,
with red pinstriping, a beautiful bike..

Living in an apartment restricts the room available for additional
bikes, and I really don't need anything else. I've sold several bikes
in recent years, including a very nice Waterford W-13 with a complete
Campagnolo Super Record component ensemble.

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

hobie

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58cm Saluki
52cm Bombadil single top tube
Dahon Smooth Hound fun little bike, a real sleeper!!

EricP

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Patrick,

With the Hillborne, it's mostly personal issues. Pretty sure I've
gotten over it. Switching the Marathon Supremes off that bike seemed
to help. And swapping the Nitto post for a Kalloy with a bit more
setback.

For the Fargo, not the first time for hand pain. Woodchipper bars
about 6 to 8 cm above saddle. Tires WTB Vulpine 2.1 nearly 40 psi up
front. It's a recurring hand issue and best to not get tempted for
longer gravel rides by not having a bike that specializes in it. With
hands on the drops it can feel like a knife into the palm. Has become
worse the more I've ridden the bike. My best solution, get rid of the
bike. Considering many folks ride hundreds of miles on gravel roads
with no pain, it's my fault, not the bike. Oh, lasting pain was
mainly hand in glove syndrome. Not good for keyboarding or playing
guitar.

Also have a tendency to rotate through bikes. Although am trying not
to have that habit. Was an issue for me for years with guitars. And
books, and a number of other hobbies.

Eric Platt
St Paul, MN
(who rode the Sam Hillborne to watch the Minnesota Twins play baseball
today.)

Michael_S

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Mine changes so fast these days.... gotta slow down but with an
upcoming retirement I want my stable (?) in good stead so I only need
to make minor changes.

2007 Riv Ram- love this bike.. it's a keeper. Planning on a paint job
next winter may add canti studs too
2010 Coho Randonneuse- my purist road bike - another keeper
2010 Singular Gryphon w/custom paint- fun bike but overlaps new bike
too much and I need a hardtail with flat bars.- for sale now on Ebay
2011 Matthews 650b low trail tourer/rough stuff bike- just got-need to
build up. will fit Pacenti Quasi's or Hetres with fenders
1982 Claud Butler Dalesman- building up for around town/commuter/
s24o's etc.
2011-12 29er hardtail MTB- finalizing design with custom builder

5 bikes will be it .. maybe.
oh... 1995 Trek T200 tandem for occasional rides with wife

~mike
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Liesl

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Riv Saluki--first litter, serial number 77. 50cm red with cream head
tube, mustache bars, silver bar-ends, nitto dirt-drop, VO elk sew-on
grips, wood fenders, honey brooks, nitto marks rack with a baggins
adam & mini -front with a nigel smyth tweed li'l loafer, snow peak
spork mounted on one of the water bottle braze-ons. Looks a bit like
a '57 MG. she's the pretty girl.

Riv Protovelo Bleriot--51 cm set up as a little quickbeam, sandblasted
clear powdercoat, mustache bars, nitto dirt-drop, white hubs with an
eno on the back, green brooks, carradice barley on the back. just a
simple delight to ride--as my main commuter, might get ridden the
most?

Bike Friday Pocket Rocket--riv-ified. british green, mustache bars,
1x8 with a single shimano bar-end, honey brooks, sackville keven's up
front and steals the carradice barley. what a companion; has gone as
far as new zealand with me.

86 Trek 650--dark blue, tiny frame with big 700 wheels set up as a
single speed winter beater, mustache bars, nitto dirt-drop, baggins
keven's bag up front and baggins little joe on the back. all scuffed
up and covered in salt grime; no one knows how nice she is.

'99 Kona Fire Mountain--olive green, albatross bars (you mean you have
a bike without mustache bars???), cork grips, shimano bar ends,
studded nokia snow tires and army surplus appointments. the jeep.

cheers, liesl
minneapolis

robert zeidler

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68cm Riv Custom
68cm Redwood
65cm Redwood
67cm AHH
22" Riv Mtn Bike
64cm Sam
68cm Q-beam
68cm Ram
64cm Ram
64cm Atlantis
66cm Atlantis
62cm Hunqa

I plan on eventually, in 30 years or so, willing these to me grand or
great-grand kids.

RGZ

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Zack <zac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The GP quotation about how many bikes you should own is great -
>
> (paraphrasing, can't remember where I saw it):
>
> "You should have seven:
> A town bike, a single speed, a loaded tourer, a commuter, a bike you
> aren't afraid to ride in the rain, an off-roader, a go-fast bike, a
> beater, and a fixed gear.
>
> Oh wait, that's nine.  Nine it is then."
>
> Ahahaha I read that to my wife when she was talking about instituting
> a "one in one out policy" on bikes.  She didn't think it was as funny
> as I did.  She gave me that look - you know the one, where it's like
> "what on earth was I thinking when I married you."
>
> Good times!
>
> On Jun 18, 10:40 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Riv custom 571 bsd gofast fixed gear
>> Riv custom 559 bsd commuter fixed gear (Consider it a gofast with
>> fenders, light racks and bags and dyno lights.)
>> Salsa Fargo -- off road bike (I wanted a 29er that can both take the
>> fattest tires 700C out there and that has a more or less touring bike
>> geometry.)
>> 1958 Herse randonneur
>>
>> The Fargo was meant to combine off road, touring and errand functions
>> (it has fenders, rack and dyno light) with two wheelsets but Herse
>> overlaps with the latter two as it does, too, with the second Riv. I
>> am tempted to ss-ify the Fargo -- we'll see.
>>
>> Oh, and I want Ryan Watson to sell me his fat-tired, Electra Ticino
>> cruiser fixed gear ....
>>
>> It would be nice to add a very light ss 29er; but ss-ifying the Fargo
>> would to some extent fill that niche.
>>
>> Choices, choices.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Mike <mjawn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm totally ashamed to admit I'm at 5 bikes. That seems excessive.
>> > There's also a ton of overlap with them. Oh well.
>>
>> > Surly Cross Check--Singlespeed with Albatross bars and used for my
>> > daily commute to work.
>> > Surly LHT--Camping/touring all-rounder. A fantastic bike. Maybe my
>> > favorite due to it's versatility.
>> > Johsua Bryant--Custom randonneuring bike.
>> > Rivendell A. Homer Hilson--Purchased new from Rivendell in 2008 and
>> > the bike I will never part with. Probably the bike with the most
>> > sentimental attachment as I've toured, randonneured and explored on
>> > this bike extensively.
>> > Rivendell Quickbeam--Purchased used off this list.
>>
>> > Chances are good that in the fall I'll sell the CC. The Albatross bars
>> > that are on it now will go on the LHT for winter commuting duties.
>> > Maybe I'll add another bike next year, perhaps a Surly Troll set-up as
>> > an all road touring camping mountain bike machine. I think what I'd
>> > really like to add would be a Surly Big Dummy but storage is the issue
>> > for that.
>>
>> > --mike


>>
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>>
>> --
>> Patrick Moore
>> Albuquerque, NM
>> For professional resumes, contact
>> Patrick Moore, ACRW

>> patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com


>>
>> A billion stars go spinning through the night
>> Blazing high above your head;
>> But in you is the Presence that will be
>> When all the stars are dead.
>> (Rilke, Buddha in Glory)
>

rob markwardt

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ding, ding....winner!
> > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text -

rob markwardt

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If I was a millionaire who lived in a mansion I'd have a hundred
bikes….but I'm teacher living in a 1922 bungalow so I have eight/
plus. A few are always in the process of change/updates, a couple
always need repair, and one or two always get the most miles. In
order of most milege

Bleriot- My main bike from October through May...currently needs some
derailleur repair.
Green Rambouillet - I don't randonneur but if I do it would be on
this.
71 Paramount - If there's little chance of rain and I'm staying on the
road I'm riding this.
88 RockCombo - I've been riding this a lot recently. Fat-tired,
fendered, hop on and go.
72 Puegeot PX10 - I rarely ride this but I don't know why....might be
that 45/28 low gear. Still, every time I get on it I go wow.
74 Hetchins Spyder - Understated...for Hetchins, Italian race style
geometry. Currently a wall hanger...missing a few parts...summer
project.
79 Univega Gran Turismo - Currently in frame mode...replaced by
RockCombo...sadly collecting dust. Can't seem to sell it, will give
to anybody who will ride it...
77 Trek...Frame, fenders...recently purchased from list member Marty.
Other summer project. This is a beauty that I can't wait to get on
the road.

Also a few kid bikes, wife's bike, free bike found on corner, etc.
I'd like to get down to a smaller number but until the internet goes
away I doubt that will be happening soon.

Rob

rb

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3 for me - all need to be fast and able to carry a load; and all weather / conditions -

main ride - Boulder 700c, drop bars, Ostrich bag or sometimes basket, SON & edelux, VO rear rack which I thought would be useless, but actually gets used quite a bit for overflow from the front carry; Gipiemme shifters on bar ends. Trashed the full 1990s Campy gruppo over the winter, it fell to pieces; so now all Shimano gearing.  A fast, fun, very comfortable ride; and good looking too (white, no decals, honjos, silver racks and components)

winter ride (in the snowy muddy Berkshires) - Kog PR, G1, S3X (3 speed fixed hub), convertible rando / giant Porteur rack, Novatech dyno.  Used to be set up as 3 x 8, no matter what other bikes I've had during the tenure of the Kog, I keep coming back to it, and not just due to 650b; even though it's a little too stiff for me, there's an incredible sweet spot that it hits.  Great trail rider / rough road rider too

Peculiar outlier - custom painted bike friday NWT, Soma Mustache bars, sprung b17, racks front and back...the BEST freight hauler I have, loads unnoticeable. 3 x 9; vbrakes 1.5" tire width - fast (except uphill, but that's me needing to spin harder, not lose momentum etc).  Shared with wife for travel bike; used by me as the freight hauler when large things are going back and forth.

tandems -
Bike Friday tandem for me and my little boy who has gone from 30 lbs to 70 lbs in the 4 years we've used it together, and has always been a random input...sometimes massive power (relatively), and sometimes deadweight.  We use it for general getting around all over in our rural hilly area, up to 20 mile r/trip. Or into NYC for long days of flat riding (wherein it, and he, shine).  With a quick conversion to fit the wife it's a 28mph cruising on the flats for hours

Santana from 1999 - the BEST riding tandem we've ever had.  For awhile set up with a kid back, and now just kept on tap for the future as we use the BF tandem more.  But one day, for long trips, when the little guy is on his own / or on his own road bike leaving us behind (hopefully), this'll be the one we use together

wife's bike - Riv Glorious, custom paint, great riding, like the Kog, an ineffable rightness, a real flyer, I wish it fit me!

At one time all our bikes were exact duplicates of each other, but now (to me) they are different enough (ie Kog and Boulder and BF) that the variability keeps them from being sold off. 



Esteban

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Here's Grant's quote from Riv Reader #42:
"seven is good. a beater, a bomber, a single-speed, a tour- ing bike,
a lightish road bike, a do-all racked and bagged bike, a mixte, a
loaner, and a work in progress. seven? Make it nine."

Bikes are fun. I like to think about tire size;

28cm -- Riv Road Custom S&S couplers 700c (58cm) - "lightish-road"
32cm -- Ebisu Randonneuse 700c (58cm) "..."
36cm -- Kogswell P/R city hauler 650B (58cm) "beater"
38cm -- Velo Cult Demontable all-road randonneuse 650B (58cm) "bomber"
42cm -- Rivendell Protovelo town & country tourer 650B (60cm) "do-all
racked and bagged"
52cm -- Black Sheep Ti Custom S&S couplers adventure tour ATB 700c
(56cm) "tour-ing"

The un-built 60cm orange Quickbeam in my office, and perhaps the
Protovelo may go one day. I'd now like a Brompton for my wife and I
both to use, as I'd need to just accept the inferior ride quality that
comes with convenience. Really, I'm "set." Recent mortgage makes
that more so!

tdusky

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Definitely Hoarding!

Bryan Edgar

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Got three good ones! I can finally stop combing Craigslist every day
(for now). With young kids at home, I don't get out much for weekend
rides. My bikes share daily commuting duties mostly with the
occasional 30-mile ride on weekends. These are all enjoyable in their
own way:

64cm Silver Quickbeam - love it. Noodles, fenders, rear rack,
panniers. King commuter and funmobile.
25.5" 1988 Trek 400 - Moustache bars, Carradice saddle bag, 28c
tires. Speedy commuter when skies are clear and I gotta get somewhere
in a hurry.
23" 1989 Stumpjumper Comp - Albatross bars and knobbies. This is my
main winter ride for the long Wisconsin snow season. I'll take it on
some singletrack a couple times a year. It's also good for hauling
the kids in the trailer. Otherwise, it doesn't get much action in the
summer.

-Bryan

islaysteve

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Liesl, Do you have pix of the Bleriot posted anywhere? I'd love to
see it.
Steve

EricP

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If going by tire size -
40mm - Sam Hillborne (Schwalbe Marathon Dureme)
40mm - Cross Check (Marathon Supremes)
50mm - LHT (Big Apples)

Winter - 40mm studded (Cross Check), 1.75 studded (LHT)

Sometimes might go as skinny as 35mm (Paselas) on a bike. Most of the
time, now, that's too narrow. Might start looking at 42-45mm for the
Cross Check. If I can find fenders to cover.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
> > Rob- Hide quoted text -

Esteban

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Oh, yea - that's mm for the tires!

Robert F. Harrison

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Let's see...

1. 66cm Quickbeam: 40/32-19/16 gearing, m-bars, mini-front/platrack, R14 in back, Rich built wheels - sort of the ultimate commuter bike for me but I do ride it long distances too.


2. Bike Friday New World Tourist (it's been to Riv Central) - living in Hawaii makes it really expensive to travel with a bike hence the BF. It's a 24 speed with an 8-speed cassette/3 speed SRAM DualDrive combo. Custom built for a heavier rider this bike has been to Walnut Creek (and a few other places round the bay), Mexico City, San Antonio, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and will be ridden across Iowa in this summer's RABRAI.


3. Fujiyama ATB - a relic from the late 80's this was the house brand of the McCully Bicycle Shop named after a friend/partner(?) of the owner. Still a family concern they don't do house brand bikes anymore but I think they used to carry Bridgestones. The son in the shop immediately remembered Grant when I brought my QB by the shop one day. This bike has been converted into a single speed town bike. I am the original owner but it sat in storage for years - now it's my go to bike when I want to hang out at the beach (and won't be able to keep an eye on where my bike is parked). 


4. Raleigh something or other - My Hilo bike, this is an old 12 speed Raleigh which will probably rust away some day. The only changes I made were new Nitto DirtDrop stem to get the handlebars up and Grip Kings (which are actually on all my bikes). I'm still deciding what to do, if anything, with it other than ride it when I'm in Hilo. It really, really needs new spokes.



I recently gave away my fifth bike, a Giant Sedona. It wasn't a bad bike but in the end I never rode it anymore. It's the bike I got when I decided to get back to biking. I considered turning it into a longtail but reality set in when I realized I was out of space in my apartment. Of course there's still room for another Riv. But which one/s?

N+1: I've got town and travel covered so now I'm waiting for inspiration (and a cash infusion) to hit me as to which Riv I need next. 

Aloha

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Have y'all noticed how well Surlys and Salsas are represented here???  They sure do make some nice, well thought out and relatively inexpensive bikes that compliment Rivendell bikes & velosophy.

Right now, I've got it down to four bikes.  Was five for a while, but I couldn't justify my Quickbeam.  I need me some gears!

So, an All Rounder, which really is one.  Can do anything I want it to do, and could very conceivably become my only bike.  I have a 36h Phil hubset with knobbies for trails, and a 32h DA/CR-18 that's my everything else wheelset.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157602592825848/

Then my Riv Road, which is a total vanity bike.  Bought second hand on the 'bay.  About seven pounds lighter, and only able to take 30mm tires, so fast but not as versatile.  If I ever need to sell a bike, this would be the one to go.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157604046492434/

Next is my Surly Karate Monkey, which is a great 29er.  I'm kinda' thinking of upgrading to a front -sus bike, but hard to justify that is this goes everywhere I need it to go!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157623615047170/

Finally, I have a real neat Schwinn Racer that I use a lot for shopping, library and similar round town stuff.  A great bike that's coming up on  40 years old! 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/437182423/in/set-72157594443171032

Oh, and the front half of a Co-Motion Double Espresso that will be going up for sale in order to get a Periscope.  Anyone, anyone...?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4529510381/

I'm not missing anything, and feel I could give up the Road and maybe even the KM if I had to.  It's really nice to have options though!



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improving their taste than from improving their performance.
- RTMS

Lee Chae

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On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:29 AM, cyclotourist <cyclot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Finally, I have a real neat Schwinn Racer that I use a lot for shopping,
> library and similar round town stuff.  A great bike that's coming up on  40
> years old!
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/437182423/in/set-72157594443171032

We need to start a Schwinn Racer splinter group (Top Hat and Ring?).
Your Racer looks fantastic. Mine's a bit over 50-years old, and hasn't
stayed true to its initial build...but the frame is surviving!:

http://tinyurl.com/44w2anj

Best,
Lee
SF, CA

cyclotourist

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Yep, keeping it real... http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/437181442/in/set-72157594443171032/

Thanks, it's pretty much all original except for chain, tires and I threw on a big cog in the back.

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2003 Lemond Alpe d'Huez: steel frame, Kelly steel fork, mostly 105

2006 DaHon Solo: Bought on a whim. Fun folder that gets almost no use.
Took the Brooks off it for another bike. Number 305 of 500. Need to
sell.

1996 Trek 930: Bought new in the box in 2008. Alba bars, fenders,
slicks, and racks. A great bike that cost me less than a cheap set of
wheels. Only complaint is the 1 1/8 threaded steerer.

2009 Gary Fisher Triton: steel single speed gofast-ish. Should sell.

1996 Kona Explosiff: Set up as a tourer/ commuter. Too small but rode
it across country in 2000 so nostalgia compels me to keep it

1960's Raleigh RSW: small wheeled folder made to compete with Moutlon.
Prob weighs more than any two other bikes combined. Should find
someone who wants it.

Riv Bleriot- my go-to bike, the one that gets the most miles- take it
unless it is going to be sitting outside for a prolonged period of
time. Will never sell.

Nishiki NFS: strange NOS 80's 650c wheeled frame and fork that i
picked up for under $40. MUSA! Never been built up. Should sell.

On the way:

Terraferma custom: single speed. will prob replace the Triton.


recently departed: Landshark, Waterford 2200, Wanta, DeBernardi, Bike
Friday NWT, Trek 370, Univega Rover

Cheers!
cm

Allingham II, Thomas J

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Operational:

1990s Ibis Mojo steel front suspension MTB.

1970s Gitane Tour de France, all Campy, Challenge Parigi-Roubaix 29mm tires.

2010 AHH, Fastboy Slim. JB Greens.

2010 Riv Atlantis, custom pewter paint, Alba bars, fully racked and set for touring w/ fat Marathon Supremes.

2009 Quickbeam, custom maroon paint, fendered and bagged, JB Greens, my usual commuter.

1990 Trek aluminum hybrid, single ring, 8 speed in the back, VO Porteur bars, trailer towing hauler at the shore.

2007 or so Lynskey Ti custom (built for previous owner), LHT fork, Alba bars, 700C Fat Franks, for longer rides at the shore (the steel bikes seem to rust very quickly right on the water).

In process:

2009 Bombadil, almost finished rebuilding as an all-black Rohloff/SON equipped doomsday bike (the "Stealth Bomba"). Quasi-Motos, Riv Bullmoose painted to match frame; still tinkering with Forward Components eccentric bottom bracket (so no chain tensioner). Black Pass and Stow front rack black large Wald basket; black Tubus rear rack.

1985 Fuji Sundance lugged steel MTB, almost finished rebuilding (there's a theme there, right?) as a winter/rain bike, with SA 8-speed/drum rear, SA dynamo/drum front, studded Nokians, Dirt Drop bars and a Gamoh front rack.

1985 Mongoose chrome MTB, being rebuilt as a Fat Frank-equipped cruiser w/ Phil rear (40 spoke wheel bought from Scott Cutshall on the list), SON 20R front, Tubus SS racks.

Waiting their turn:

2007 Bleriot, to be built as a vintage-looking SS, w/ wooden rims, drilled Campy front/White ENO rear hubs, cream Hetres, Weigle-modified Stronglight track crankset, SOMA Lauterwasser bars, Ideale saddle, etc. I guess this one would be for parades?

2011 SimpleOne, gofast fixed gear, Moustache bars, Challenge tires.

1985 Specialized Stumpjumper frame/fork, vague plans for a drop-barred, Big Appled ocean liner.

1985 MB-2 frame fork, vague plans for a SA Duomatic coaster brake beach house loaner/beater, with Big Apples and maybe a Riv Bullmoose set.

And VERY deep in the queue, a 1930s Peugeot mixte, requiring complete restoration, and currently beyond my skill set.

I guess this exercise persuades me that I need to simplify my files....

On the way:

Cheers!
cm

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>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/437182423/in/set-72157594443171032
>
> Oh, and the front half of a Co-Motion Double Espresso that will be going up
> for sale in order to get a Periscope.  Anyone, anyone...?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4529510381/
>


So - tell me more about the double espresso... got sizes, etc on it?

-sv

benzzoy

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On Jun 20, 4:35 am, Esteban <proto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's Grant's quote from Riv Reader #42:
> "seven is good. a beater, a bomber, a single-speed, a tour- ing bike,
> a lightish road bike, a do-all racked and bagged bike, a mixte, a
> loaner, and a work in progress. seven? Make it nine."

Well, I can't do beater because I'm OCD and beaters to me means rusty
frames and mismatched parts. No, no, no. That won't do.

I can't do single-speeds either because I live in the SF bay area and
everywhere I go, there are mountains. In my younger (read: fitter)
days, I may be persuaded, but I'll leave the single-speeds to the
younglings.

All except one of my bikes (and I have a baker's dozen) are loaners.
But I'll have to know you well to loan you any of my bikes and of
course with my OCD, you'll also need to more or less fit. The sole
exception to loanership is my Ciocc, which holds tremendous
sentimental value and is therefore never for sale and not to be loaned
out either.

I'll like to get a Mixte one day though. I once rode a way-too-big
Chinese mixte work bike in my youth and have fond memories of wading
through semi-flooded areas (with my younger sister on the rear rack)
with such that beast. Oh such carefree adventures!

Finally, I think Grant should consider adding a tenth - Folding bike.
Like Esteban, I have a Brompton that is perhaps my go-to bike for
anything less than 4 or 5 miles. That thing is so convenient. I've
ridden it to fancy restaurants in San Francisco (folded and coat-
checked it), and grocery/department stores (folded and stuck it
underneath the trolley). It's been on public transport (buses and
trains) and fits conveniently in my wife's car's trunk when she picks
me up to go somewhere else. Essentially, it's a bike that's accepted
almost everywhere and that doesn't need a lock.

James Warren

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Mine's both a collection and a hoard:

1991 MB-4, 55 cm, was red, repainted deep purple. The bike I'm most attached to.
1993 MB-2, 55 cm, red
1992 RB-1, 62 cm, yellow and white
2001 Atlantis, 64 cm, out for repaint to a rich red
2003 Rambouillet, 64 cm, original orange. Competes with AHH and Hillborne as most ridden.
Canti-Rom, 63 cm, light blue. Traded away 1998 Heron Touring for this.
1993 XO-1, 55 cm, orange
2004 Quickbeam, 64 cm, green. Wide-range three speed with shifting in the front.
2007 A. Homer Hilsen, 65 cm, original medium blue
Heron Road, 64 cm, dark green
1994 RB-2, 62 cm, metallic bluish turquoise
1987 Trek 400 Elance, 64 cm, red
2010 Hillborne, 60 cm, orange

pb

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This thread makes me feel better about my own modest stash. Sunday
evening I told my wife that I feel incredibly lucky to have three
bikes, each of which I really enjoy, and each of which has its own,
completely different character. In regular rotation:

-- Merlin Agilis, 25c, Record and Chorus 10, light wheels, fast,
climbs beautifully, feels invisible
-- Hampsten Travelissimo custom ti (Kent Eriksen), 28c, Chorus 10,
classic 70's geometry, simultanously relaxed and aggressive (still can
be seen inthe last two shots of the Travelissimo on Hampsten's
website). I cannot speak highly enough about this frame.
-- Rambouillet Orange, 33c, to me the velo equivalent of comfort food,
when I have had stressful week, and I want to heal, relax, and not
focus too much

Also hanging, largely neglected

-- Gunnar Roadie S&S, 28c, Centaur. I should ride it more -- I like
it.
-- 1984 Ritchey custom mtn bike
-- 1974 Eisentraut Limited, purchased new in 1976, the one bike I
always kept (well... I guess I kept the Ritchey, too)
-- 1952 Hetchins pathracer, built as a single-speed, Northroad townie

Nice selection of bikes. I should reduce it.

pb

William Pustow

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OK, here goes:
-- 54cm Litespeed Vortex, 23,Record, my favorite for many years, numerous PAC Tours, etc. and then I drank Grant's cool aid and realized a bigger frame would be more comfortable
--56 Green Rambouillet, 25, Record, got it initially as a "country bike" but quickly found it could be used comfortably on fast club centuries
--56 Orange Quickbeam, 33, Sugino 46x18 non-fixed, if I want to shift I'll use a bike with a derailleur, absolutely love this bike
--56 Specialized S-Works Roubaix, 25, Dura Ace, love the geometry (relaxed), super light weight but how the Pros take this over the cobbles is beyond me, use it when I want to do a "fast" 50 miler.
--57 Orange Hilsen, 28, Record triple, Mark's front rack with a Berthoud 22 bag, used it on the Texas Rando Stampede 1200K, very nice bike. I'm thinking of converting Homer into a gravel racer
--56 Lynskey R230 custom, Super Record, 25, titanium is as comfortable as steel if only it had lugs, will probably use it for PBP
--20 inch Pashley Gov'nor, Sturmy Archer 3-speed, the bike makes me smile, very comfortable

Bikes on order:
-- Salsa Mukluk 2, snow bike, hopefully will get it this fall and will participate in the shorter (50 - 60 mile) snow races
--Rene Herse from Rene Herse Bicycles in Boulder, not sure when this will be ready but well worth the wait

Bill
Louisville, Kentucky

Mitch Browne

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Jun 21, 2011, 10:47:53 PM6/21/11
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It didn't start out this way, honest. I gave up running due to a knee
two years ago and it's come to this.

2002 58cm Atlantis - first bike I ever built up 1.5 yrs ago. Nice
frame purchased off CL. 16 mi RT daily commuter. Albatross, new
longboards and Marathon Supreme 40's are nice. This one stays, I feel
like the luckiest guy in the world pedaling along to work early
mornings.

'92 58cm XO-1 hanging on wall. This was a dream bike until I got the
Atlantis, never had a chance to bond and now the relationship is null.
It must go soon. I haven't put 5 miles on it.

'82 Mercian King of Mercia 56cm - frame waiting to be built, have
parts, next project, this will be a beauty. Hoping the size work.

'82 NOS 54 cm Koga Miyata frame - sitting in box it arrived in from
Netherlands, another impulse buy. Really nice, internal cable
routing, quality paint - goes

'81 58 cm Miyata 1000 Albatross bars, 32mm Marathon Supremes - This
may go

'83 54 cm Miyata 1000 stock. My 54's were acquired before I clued into
true sizing - Hanging from rafters - goes

'71 54cm Schwinn Paramount P13 - Hanging from rafters for 2 years.
$400 off CL, nice Campy parts, I'm not a racer guy - goes
'90's 54cm Ciocc - Impulse local CL buy, unloved a little rusty -
rafter hanger - goes

'84 52cm Bianchi Limited - turned into a fendered Albatross 650b for
my brother in law. The only thing Italian on the bike is decals. 022
Ishiwata tubing / suntour / nitto components. Ready for pickup by
relatives.

'84 58cm Specialized Expedition. Converted to Albatross (disturbing
trend emerging) with Paul Porteur rack on front and Riv bag, fun
around town.

'94 XO-5 Mixte. Small, free, it's going away.

'90 Scott Single Track mountain bike. This was the one I rode before I
knew about lubing a chain or adjusting a brake. Orphaned but so far
down the list it hangs in the shadows awaiting fate.

I didn't realize how sick I am but feel much better now that it's all
out.

Oh wait. There's an early 70's Peugeot Mixte in the back of the truck
that I'm fixing up for a local gal that had a bike stolen. My first
and last French bike ;)

My therapy is complete.

Mitch Browne
San Luis Obispo, CA








Mike

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Jun 22, 2011, 9:31:35 AM6/22/11
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After reviewing this thread I don't feel so bad about owning 5 bikes.
At some point the CC will go, hopefully to make room for a mountain
bike or a Bike Friday.

--mike

James Warren

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When people keep saying "now I'm not feeling guilty about owning N bikes...", they mean that they had been feeling guilty before that their N value was too low, right?


Way Rebb

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Jun 22, 2011, 10:18:02 AM6/22/11
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Now I feel bad.

Since I gave the 84 Lotus away I have the Hillborne and..uh..er...a 27
inch wheel, a couple of tires, 3 or 4 old brake pads, some ball
bearings and tools.

That Hillborne is probably the most useful thing I own but my mission
in the next 10 years: amass one or two more bikes, maybe even all
Hillbornes, who knows!

Regards,
Ray

jimD

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Jun 22, 2011, 9:50:11 AM6/22/11
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By golly, you've got it!

I was pondering why I keep dreaming of a Rodeo and an Atlantis, and a Bombadil.

I didn't realize that I've been suffering from a low N value.

-JimD

Feeling better now.


On Jun 22, 2011, at 6:42 AM, James Warren wrote:


When people keep saying "now I'm not feeling guilty about owning N bikes...", they mean that they had been feeling guilty before that their N value was too low, right?


James Warren

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An army of Hillbornes. I like that image. (The Hillborne is, after all, the midpoint bike on the Rivendell spectrum from beefy dirt to light paved road.)


-----Original Message-----
>From: Way Rebb <gray...@mac.com>
>Sent: Jun 22, 2011 7:18 AM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: [RBW] Re: The bike collection (or hoard?)
>

rex

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Jun 21, 2011, 11:45:55 PM6/21/11
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60cm orange quickbeam
59cm romulus
future: 58cm atlantis

On Jun 17, 6:49 pm, mike <mike.rosen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sort of related to "Rivs in the Rafters", but started as a new thread
> here since there's little Riv content.  And none in my rafters.
>
> I have some tendency to hoard (my first and only Riv is in the
> building stage (S1)) and my wife tends to want to get rid of stuff.
> That makes for a good balance.
>
> A couple of weeks ago I went to an estate sale.  I just happened to
> ride by and stopped in.  Holy Crap!  What an amazing collection of
> wonderful useless crap.  It truly made me want to go home and throw
> something away.
>
> I remember something Grant wrote about the optimum number of bikes.
> It was at least seven.  A go fast, touring, single speed, beater, one
> under repair, a loaner, I can't remember the rest.
>
> My bikes:
>
> Probably early 70s, French, Probably Mercier frame.  Probably their
> closest thing to the Pugeot PX-10.  The bare frame is hanging in the
> garage, stripped for parts about a year ago.  It needs to go.
>
> 1986 Vitus 979.  I've ridden it a lot recently.  Even tried it with 26
> inch wheels.  I sort of like that!.  The BB is a little bit low, but
> it's ridable.  It's lovely, great components on it.  It needs to go.
>
> Two 1986 Stumpjumpers, one "Sport" one regular.  These have been my
> commuters for a while.
>
> My not yet completely assembled Simple One.
>
> I really need to consolidate down to fewer bikes.  I can't ride them
> all and it's too much work to keep them all maintained.

Mitch Browne

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Rex your 58cm Atlantis is now:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2449794256.html

Mitch

RJM

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Jun 22, 2011, 2:20:45 PM6/22/11
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I guess I need to get a few bikes. Currently I have

1996 Stumpjumper M2 (aluminium framed) which is in pieces now.
2000 Jamis Aurora set up with mustache bars, front basket and rear
rack
2010 Trek 7.5 Fx needs new rear hub and probably will wind up selling
it.
Rivendell Sam Hillborne, nitto noodle, handlebar bag, v brakes, soon
to be grand bois tires
Novara Safari set up for fully loaded touring

In the future I want to replace the Novara with a Riv Atlantis and get
either a Bombadil or Hunqapillar for the trails. I also would like to
get a Yvez Gomez for city riding.

Thomas Lynn Skean

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> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Way Rebb <grayc...@mac.com>
> >Sent: Jun 22, 2011 7:18 AM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com>
> >Subject: [RBW] Re: The bike collection (or hoard?)
> >
> >....
> >
> >That Hillborne is probably the most useful thing I own but my mission
> >in the next 10 years: amass one or two more bikes, maybe even all
> >Hillbornes, who knows!
>
> >Regards,
> >Ray

On Jun 22, 9:41 am, James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> An army of Hillbornes. I like that image. (The Hillborne is, after all, the midpoint bike on the Rivendell spectrum from beefy dirt to light paved road.)
>
>

With interchangeable cockpits!

Albatross
Moustache
Bullmoose
Noodle
Trekking - someday
Straight - after someday

(all Nitto, of course)

Ahh, I can't wait. Though I think I'll only have two soldiers in my
army.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

Ryan

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93 X0-1
early 70's Peugeot PX-10 now set up as a single-speed
1996 Riv all-rounder
2001 Curt-built Riv Road

I love them all but this season I've been riding my Peugeot a lot. There's a nostalgia factor, the Peugeot was my first really good bike that I bought when I was 20. I had 2 stolen and the single-speed is my third that I
was lucky enough to find in a local bike store in 1982. I rode  centuries, toured and commuted on it ,but semi-retired it in 88 when an incorrectly threaded headset installed by another store(won't name names) munged the fork. I got a NOS black tange fork on it, set it up with moustache bars and a Nitto stem, put a nice old pair of 36-hole campy hubbed clinchers w 700X35 Paselas and I couldn't be happier. The goal was to set up a nice rider; it is not a restoration. Original paint with lots of war wounds but no rust and that  fine steel ride..probably why I fell in love with Grant Petersen's bikes and I have 3 of them

Can't see myself selling any of these any time soon...they're special bikes.

Cheers from Canada

Scotty

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'89 Schwinn Voyageur That I basically got for free. I paid 80 for it and the guy gave me a matching lady bike that I trued the wheels and sold for 80. :-) Great Bike. I meant to make it a single speed but it rides and shifts so nice as it is that I am holding off on that idea.
 
05 Surly LHT. It is my current main ride and has been serving me very well, even though the frame is a bit small for me. It is a 54cm with 26"wheels. I have it set up that it fits me but to do it again I would have bought a 56.
 
Very old, 50s Ross cruiser that will be a little project when I get around to it.
 
Brand spankin new A Homer Hilsen that I dont even have yet. I ordered it in March and it should be arriving any old time now.
 
On my wish list is a Surly Pugsley, which would be very impractical for my needs but I want one anyway, and a steel frame 29er mountain bike.

Bruce Herbitter

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Jul 1, 2011, 3:18:48 PM7/1/11
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Nice herd Ryan!  After saying I needed to thin mine down, I couldn't say no when a friend asked if I could take a 1987 Panasonic Team America in excellent shape off his hands... So, do I leave it as is, or 650B it?  hmmmm
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