Saluki

[SeanMac]

I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay.  I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web.  I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me.

 I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C & O Trail, etc.  I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal).  Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike?

How would the Saluki compare to a Homer?

I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing.  Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki?

Thanks,

Sean

[Leslie]

The Saluki was a 650b bike, that was merged into the 700c A Homer Hilsen....

The 650b AHH's *are* Salukis, in a sense...

[Mike]

Try the Internet Wayback Machine (http://archive.org/web/web.php) and see if you can get info from an older version of the RBW website. But yeah, the Saluki is basically a 650b Hilsen. Still, the SH for $1000 seems like a good deal.

--mike

[C.J. Filip]

Hi Sean,

What's your PBH? If you're in the "taller" overlap zone of the Homers
and the larger Salukis (59cm-62cm), I may be able to contribute to
your questions.

I recently added a 60cm Saluki to compliment and potentially replace
my 59cm Hilsen. For now, I feel I'm at the point where I've
identified a great size and ergonomic setup, nearly perfect, and now
begin the process of splitting hairs. The Saluki is able to run
slightly wider (Hetre) tires and has cantis and feels a hair larger,
but that's probably due to the puffier 42mm Hetres (my Homer is an
early build and has the narrower tire clearance).

Aesthetically, the bike looks to be of the same high quality. My
Homer was made at Waterford but the Saluki probably at Toyo. The lugs
appear to be "mismatched," the top lug of the headtube appearing to be
like the current Homers and the bottom lug of the headtube appearing
to be like the older "pointy" lugs. I like it.

Here is an archive page on the Saluki:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070225162042/http://www.rivbike.com/bikes/saluki

[Sean McAtee]

My pbh is about 88. Riv recommended that I go with a 56 Sam. Not sure about my size on a Homer and I can't seem to access Riv's sizing chart



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[cyclotourist]

Probably right around a 60-61cm frame for level TT bikes. I'm an 89 and ride 61-62m frames.

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[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Mine is 86.5, and Riv suggested a 61cm Homer. Fits perfectly with Jack Browns, but not a lot of extra room -- I don't mind that, and I think Keven knew that when he suggested the 61.

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[C.J. Filip]

I'm just shy of 87cm PBH and fit perfectly on the 59cm Hilsen. Here
is the generic Riv fit chart: http://www.rivbike.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/framesize_chart.gif

Looks like for a given PBH the sizes on 650B compared to 700C are a
bit larger but should fit the same.

On Dec 5, 6:34 am, Sean McAtee <seanm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My pbh is about 88.  Riv recommended that I go with a 56 Sam.  Not sure about my size on a Homer and I can't seem to access Riv's sizing chart
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 5, 2012, at 9:27 AM, "C.J. Filip" <c.j.fi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Sean,
>
> > What's your PBH?  If you're in the "taller" overlap zone of the Homers
> > and the larger Salukis (59cm-62cm), I may be able to contribute to
> > your questions.
>
> > I recently added a 60cm Saluki to compliment and potentially replace
> > my 59cm Hilsen.  For now, I feel I'm at the point where I've
> > identified a great size and ergonomic setup, nearly perfect, and now
> > begin the process of splitting hairs.  The Saluki is able to run
> > slightly wider (Hetre) tires and has cantis and feels a hair larger,
> > but that's probably due to the puffier 42mm Hetres (my Homer is an
> > early build and has the narrower tire clearance).
>
> > Aesthetically, the bike looks to be of the same high quality.  My
> > Homer was made at Waterford but the Saluki probably at Toyo.  The lugs
> > appear to be "mismatched," the top lug of the headtube appearing to be
> > like the current Homers and the bottom lug of the headtube appearing
> > to be like the older "pointy" lugs.  I like it.
>
> > Here is an archive page on the Saluki:

> >http://web.archive.org/web/20070225162042/http://www.rivbike.com/bike...

[Montclair BobbyB]

That all-blue Sam IS a looker alright (AND a deal)... 

On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:35:26 AM UTC-5, SeanMac wrote:

[Frank]

I have a 62cm Saluki and a 63cm AHH and my PBH is 89.5. Mine are set up differently, but if I were to go down the like-to-like line on a per-component basis, they would be very similar. I love them both, ride them both almost equally, and I've done light touring on both. 

I've also ridden each of them loaded with 5 days worth of clothing and stuff to support an extended vacation / stay in PDX on the Seattle to Portland ride in years past. I didn't weigh them, but would guess that with two panniers and a Hoss pretty fully packed I probably had 45lbs. of jank plus 165lbs of me on the bike. Both bikes worked fine at 100m/d, though I'd say they were close to the limit.

In any event, the Saluki is a great bike and would be well suited to the riding you describe, though so would the Sam. Can't see how you could go wrong either way.

[SeanMac]

Thank you for all of your help today.  I spent the day on jury duty, so I am a bit slow in sending thanks.

When I returned home I had my son help me to re-measure my PBH.  We ended up taking several measurements, typically getting a PBH between 86 - 87.  Based on Riv's chart, his seems to put me at a 56 Sam, a 58-60 Saluki (or Bleriot) and 58-61 Homer.

I don't need a new bike any time soon, but it would be nice to take advantage of a deal.  However, since a new bike is a bike purchase, I want to make the best decision possible - even if that means not buying anything.  The problem, of course, is that one can never know for sure what deals will come by.  However, since I live in Buffalo, it is pretty unlikely that I will be outdoors on a bike any time soon.  I probably should hang tight and wait for a deal that I can't pass up.

Sorry for thinking out loud.  I do appreciate all or your help / advice.  Someday I'll make up my mind!

Sean

[Will]

Sean, FWIW list member Hobie is selling a fine example of a 58cm Saluki, I'm pretty sure it's still available. I have personally ridden this bike. It's too small for me but its gorgeous. Last I checked he was looking to unload the complete bike (with fancy parts) for just north of what a new frame costs. It's worth a look if you are still interested. He's a New York resident also...

[C.J. Filip]

Sounds like we have nearly the same PBH. I can straddle the 60cm
Saluki in bare feet with Hetres, and not want/need to tip toe due to
top tube clearance. Recommend going bigger.

[Joe Bunik]

FWIW, I'm pretty sure Vince of RBW fame is still selling his 60cm
canti-luki... mmm butterscotch.
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

[William]

Canti_Luki!??!?  You are KILLING ME!