I've got a project bike. Do you want to do the conversion, or should I?

[William]

I've gotten a hold of an early 80s Stumpjumper Sport that appears to be practically unridden.  Deer head derailleurs, specialized cranks and hubs.  Lugged at the headtube and lugged unicrown fork.  Super long chainstays.  I think it will make a great substitute for an Atlantis or Bombadil type of touring bike.  I'm thinking the Compass 26" tires, or maybe Big Apples, with fenders, and drop bars.  This came from the Harding Elementary School Dad's Club.  I could do a conversion and then try to sell it, but first I wanted to float it here to see if anyone in the Bay Area was thinking of doing something like this and wanted to have the fun for themselves.  Let me know if you think you'd like the shot at this.  I'm thinking that $400 made out to Harding Elementary School would be enough to keep me from building a bombproof touring bike out of this.  Let me know if you want a crack at it.  Here's the photo set:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157630935094690/ 

I am especially interested in getting out of doing this conversion because I always get emotionally attached to these projects and want to keep them.  :)

[Garth]

You have a 1985 Sport model William.
 http://mombat.org/Specialized_Specs.htm
http://mombat.org/MOMBAT/BikeHistoryPages/Specialized.html

 It's a little better riding than the pre-85 models that used a dreadful 67 degree head angle.  Your is 70.  
I owned a '83 Sport that I bought in back then and kept up until last year.  The ride was poor due to the head angle.  But , yours should be much improved, so it could be alright for a touring bike.  A Bombadil ... it ain't .... lol.   I have one .... and the comparisons are not even close.  Everything is better . Not to say your Sport won't be fine for you , it's all subjective.

If you want to sell it ... leave it as is !  A used '85 isn't going to get you a ton of cash... so spending money on it makes no sense if selling it.  I noticed however, that these has those Specialized Cranks .... these were prone to cracking inside the spider like Campy cranks. 

If you want to keep it to play with, do it because you LOVE the bike ... not because you want to sell it as you're gonna lose $$ on it then.

Either way .. have fun :)

[William]

Thanks Garth very much for the info and the link.  

I already have a 56cm Bombadil.  :)  Doing the conversion will just be for fun.  The more I put into the less likely I'd sell it.  I floated it because our PTA could use the dollars, and the event where we'll sell this won't be until next spring.  

[Montclair BobbyB]

William, you rascal...very tempting...  I have a serious weakness for '85 Stumpies... but alas I already have my own (which I transformed into a kind of "Atlantish tribute bike"... http://tinyurl.com/8fu6kqx  )

BUT TO ANYONE INTERESTED... THIS is an exceptional bike, and will make a lifetime keeper touring/grocery-getter/head-turner/just-plain-awesome RIDER!!!... 

Good luck, William, and it's for a good cause.  BB

[Montclair BobbyB]

BTW, my good friend and local (Sonoma) jeweler/cyclist from Healdsburg, Scott Kalkman crafted the headbadge, and I'm confident could craft one for this beauty... http://tinyurl.com/bmssvju

BB

[William]

MBB

You know how this is going to turn out.  :-P  

Of course I'm going to end up doing the conversion.  It's particularly inevitable for me since I already have a fun drop bar cockpit ready to go.  The cash out parts will be tires, tubes and brake pads.  Maybe fenders.  

You also know that you and Tom are at fault for doing so many yummy conversions and sharing photos of them.  I can't let you guys have all the fun.

Bill

[Michael_S]

I "know" a drop bar conversion would be great on this old Stumpy... here is my Lugged "87 Comp  with 46cm Noodles, Brooks etc. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/7089294979/in/photostream 

...mines a 58 frame  with a 59.5 top tube. I did cheat a little as it was missing a fork.  Had Chauncey Matthews make a nice biplane fork with 55mm rake for me and add rear canti mounts. Just a blast to ride. And great for some off-road s24o's.

~mike

Carlsbad Ca.

[Montclair BobbyB]

Mike:

That is one sweet bike...one-of-a-kind. Nice touch de-narding the U-brake for canti-studs... And I love the custom biplane fork... had me convinced (at first) that this was an '84 Stumpy...  

It's gotta be a blast to ride...

Peace,

BB

[Montclair BobbyB]

Yes, Bill... we always knew where this was heading... Hey, what say we make this a "group-build"... Tom, you game????  I'll be out in San Francisco in October... 

Hmmm, let's see... a black and creme 2-tone paint job... new Stumpy decals... custom stainless "S" headbadge... 

Dyno hub with front and rear B&M lights...

50mm Creme Fat Franks... Black fenders with creme pinstripingn and chevrons

Brooks B17 Special... maybe etched???

killer front and rear racks...

Oh yeah...a totally pimped out dream bike... 

I will go to sleep now... 

Peace,

BB

[William]

I'm taking the budget route now.  

1.  Mostly stock

2.  Overhaul

3.  1.75 New Express tires and presta tubes

4.  a Noodle/tech dlx/tektro bar cockpit I already have

5.  a black B17 I already have

6.  super secret Silver barcons built from the Riv-Silver Thumbies

7.  Silver SKS P55s I already have

8.  Nitto Big front and Rear racks that I already have

Total cash outlay is under $100.  That'll get it 100% useable for road-evaluation.  Then I can think about justifying a nicer paint job (and a couple more braze-ons)

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

That'll be a great build as is -- budget or no.

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[William]

Headset and BB overhauled.  I'm taking the frame and rear wheel to the LBS for derailer hanger alignment.  That's one too for which there is no substitute that I'll probably never buy.  

[Montclair BobbyB]

That'll be a nice ride... You could also eBay the slingshot stem/bar combo and the Deore brake levers and shifters to virtually eliminate any cash outlay... Heck, I'll give you $100 for all three!!!!

BB

[William]

Here's the halfway done build.  I stripped it down for an overhaul.  The BB and headset were in great shape so they went right back in.  I had to straighten the rear der hanger and the chainrings were also a bit bent up.  New chain and brakepads along with my B17 and my drop bar cockpit are all on there as well.  The wheels trued up nicely, and the rear needed a bunch of tension.  I put on a new pair of Soma New Express 26x1.75 tires and converted to presta tubes.  All it needs is shifters and all the cables and it's ready to ride.  Then I'll put on fenders and racks after the shakedown.  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/7813065936/in/photostream 

[Eric Platt]

Nice.  Like the overall look.  Have to admit a love for those old Stumpjumpers and Sport models.  Although haven't owned one since 1989.  Was tempted to buy it, but am in the middle of reducing/rationalizing my bike situation.

 

That seatpost reminds me that I have a special hatred for the old SR posts.  Probably broke at least a dozen of them in 4 years.  The bolt broke twice (once during a long race) and the rest were either slips of the upper clamp, or a total break of the clamp.  Must have ridden heavier back in those days.  It doesn't seem to be an issue now, even with inexpensive seatposts.

 

Eric Platt

St. Paul, MN

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[William]

And now it's totally rideable.  I did the compulsory ride around the block yesterday afternoon without issue.  I'll do a slightly longer shake down ride tonight.  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/7824790510/in/photostream 

On Monday, August 6, 2012 11:51:05 AM UTC-7, William wrote:

[Montclair BobbyB]

NICE, Bill !!!!  VERY nice... it just beckons to be ridden... I LOVE the way the Saturae x28 rims look... just be wary they're single-walled, and NOT the strongest (compared to today's rims)... Case in point (and granted I did a totally boneheaded descent down a steep flight of stairs), I potato-chipped the front rim like it was nothing.  Enjoy, BB

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/4547700885/in/set-72157623574409014