Trangia cook kits

[Mike]

Just wondering what peole's experiences are with the Trangia cook kits
that Rivendell sells. They seem pretty cool. I've been using a pretty
compact Snow Peak stove for the past two years for boiling water but
am thinking that I might be more adventurous with my meals on bike
camping trips. I haven't even begun looking a receipes with the kits
yet but I'm sure there are tons on the interweb. If anyone on this
list has experience with the cook kits I'd be curious to hear about
them.

--mike

[Anne Paulson]

I have both sets, the smaller and the larger. Trangia says that the
smaller set is appropriate for one or two people, and the larger for
three or four. In my experience, the one person set is perfect for one
but too small for two and I doubt the larger set is big enough for
four.

It all depends on what you cook, though. If all you're doing is
boiling water for rehydration, you can get by with a smaller set. But
let's say you want to make a soup, or spaghetti. The smaller set can
cook spaghetti for one, but no more. Let's say you want pancakes for
breakfast. The smaller frying pan cooks about half enough pancakes for
one cyclist's breakfast at one time.

Trangia offers a cute little teakettle that nests inside the set,
though Rivendell doesn't sell it. I find the little teakettle useful.
Let's say, again, that you're having pancakes for breakfast, or maybe
scrambled eggs. First you heat up your water for your tea or coffee.
You don't want to use one of the pots, because the one and only pot
lid is also your frying pan, and you need that for your pancakes or
eggs. You make your tea, and you save some of the hot water for more
tea or for dishwashing. Now your frying pan is free for the pancakes.
By the way, pancakes and Nutella is the yum for breakfast; if you use
Krusteaz pancake mix, you just add water.

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[J. Burkhalter]

Hey Mike,

I highly recommend them! I was a longtime MSR Whisperlite user until
trying one of the Trangia West Wind stoves on my Baja tour a few years
ago. That experience hooked me on the Trangias, and I've been happily
using the Trangia cookset available thru RBW (the smaller 27-7, I
think) for the last couple of years. Some of the things I like about
it: always works (doesn't clog), no soot, spilled fuel evaporates
quickly and doesn't stink, adjustable flame, super quiet, sturdy, no
pressurized anything, nothing really to break or fail, nicely
integrated kit, denatured alcohol is available everywhere, and it
cooks great. The hard anodized pots are holding up just fine. I
don't miss my white gas stove at all.

-Jay B.

[J. Burkhalter]

Thanks for the reminder on the water kettle Anne! I've been meaning
to get one of those ever since I bought the stove, for those very
reasons.

Anne raises a good point about kit sizing. I find the smaller one
just fine for 2 people (it would be even more fine if I could remember
to get that tea kettle). I tend to cook meats, fish, vegetables, and
eggs, and I have plenty of room for 2 person meals. If one tends to
cook things like pancakes, rice and beans, or other similar grain
centered meals, I would think the larger Trangia would fit the bill to
be able to handle the increased volume of food.

-Jay B.

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[Ray Shine]

I second what Anne and the others have said. I have used many alcohol stoves (most I fashioned myself) but the Trangia really is the most reliable.  I augmented mine a couple of years ago with the "S-2" windscreen and stand from Clickstand (Stove works, not the kickstand) and that has really optimized the burning efficiency. I use mine backpacking, also, if I am solo. With others, we use gas stoves.  I have a mall tea kettle, also, but it wasn't made by Trangia.  One danger inherent with alcohol burners is that they are completely silent. If you use one in daylight, you can't see or hear the flame, so be cautious cooking with long sleeved shirts, etc.  Hear is the clickstand link. They have some neat things:

http://www.clikstand.com/p_clikstands.html

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[Ray Shine]

Another neat thing about the alcohol burners is that you can carry the fuel in a common plastic water bottle.  Spilled fuel inside pannier or backpack evaporates quickly and leaves no residue. very clean stuff.  Just mark the outside so you don't take a big swig of it on a thirsty day!

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From: Mike <mjaw...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 12:43 PM
Subject: [RBW] Trangia cook kits

[Anne Paulson]

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Ray Shine <r.s...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I second what Anne and the others have said. I have used many alcohol stoves
> (most I fashioned myself) but the Trangia really is the most reliable.  I
> augmented mine a couple of years ago with the "S-2" windscreen and stand
> from Clickstand (Stove works, not the kickstand) and that has really
> optimized the burning efficiency.

The Trangia set, with stove, windscreen, stand and pots, is heavier
than the Clikstand set, but I also believe that the Trangia design
optimizes the burning efficiency. The pots fit fairly tightly in the
windscreen, retaining heat. Alcohol doesn't burn very hot, yet the
stove heats amazingly well. When I was still using white gas and a
friend with me was using a Trangia, but not the whole Trangia
windscreen/pot support, it seemed to take him forever to bring a pot
of water to boil for spaghetti. But when I use my Trangia set, it
boils water quickly.

[pushing the pedals]

I use the smaller Trangia 27-7 UL/HA cookset that Rivendell sells, and
I find that it is about the best thing I could possibly want in a
stove. Prior to the Trangia, I used a small Snow Peak canister stove,
and always was worried that my half used canister might run out, so I
would always carry a spare. That's not fun! I cooked twice a day for
three months with my Trangia on the Great Divide Mountain Bike Route
and found the kit to be reliable, efficient and very easy to use.
There are very few "perfect things", but this is definitely very
close. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pushingthepedals/5825678149/in/photostream

[Zack]

dan -

how did you carry the alcohol for the stove?

nice blog by the way, I enjoyed checking it out (saw the link on the
Riv site).


On Jun 12, 5:40 pm, pushing the pedals <dan...@pushingthepedals.com>
wrote:

[Mike]

"Prior to the Trangia, I used a small Snow Peak canister stove, and
always was worried that my half used canister might run out, so I
would always carry a spare."

Ha! That's exactly my situation. I love my Snow Peak stove but I
always carry an extra canister for just that reason. In fact, last
week my first cannister, which was partially used ran out. Good thing
I brought the second one.

I think I probably will invest in teh Trangia, seems a really
worthwhile investment, especially if one wants to do some real
cooking. I'll probably pick one up before the Aug tour.

I know this is a dum question but I'll just put it out there... how do
I dispose of the spent canister?

--mike

[Ray Shine]

I'm just horning in here, but I have used these stoves extensively. I carry the denatured alcohol in common plastic water bottles. They are tough, and light. Just mark them clearly as alcohol so that you don't swill alcohol on a thirsty day, or pour water into your alcohol burner!

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Trangia cook kits

[dmolloy]

I used a one liter Trangia fuel bottle on the GDR mainly because of
the length of the trip, but now I carry either one or two 8oz clear
plastic flasks from REI. The great thing about the denatured alcohol
is that it's safe to carry in just about any container.

[dmolloy]

I think that the spent canisters may be recyclable, but would imagine
that most end up in landfills :(

[Dave Craig]

The fuel canisters are sometimes considered hazardous waste. The
canisters are recyclable, though they must be prepared appropriately.
Make sure the canister is truly empty by attaching it to the stove one
more time and running it dry. Then, use the awl on a knife or a nail
to puncture the top of the can. Lastly, flatten the can with a hammer.
This prep makes it clear that there is no gas remaining in the
canister and it can be legally recycled with other metals.

The usual precautions apply- wear eye protection, don't stick yourself
and be sure the can is empty. We recycle dozens of these canisters in
our outdoor program every year without any issues.

DC

On Jun 13, 1:37 pm, dmolloy <danielmarkmol...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I think that the spent canisters may be recyclable, but would imagine
> that most end up in landfills :(
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> On Jun 13, 12:46 pm, Mike <mjawn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > "Prior to the Trangia, I used a small Snow Peak canister stove, and
> > always was worried that my half used canister might run out, so I

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[Bill Gibson (III)]

I have the same wide experience with liquid and compressed gas stoves as others, but I'd add a few caveats. Don't overfill the brass burner. Alcohol seems safer and nicer than white gas, but it is powerful. If you spill, it can still catch fire, and even explode, but it is harder to explode than gas. I once tipped over the set and sloshed some fuel on the windscreen while trying to fish the snuffing lid off when I dropped it and missed, and the spilled fuel <melted> the perforated bottom part of the windscreen, which I was able to replace with another. It could have been worse, much worse. If you are actually cooking sometimes instead of just boiling water, and appreciate peace and quiet, it doesn't get better. Trangia is my favorite when I can't set or don't want a wood fire.

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[Rob]

Slightly off topic, but I've been using one of these for a year now, and quite enjoy it: http://www.traildesigns.com/stoves/caldera-ti-tri

Very light, and can burn wood as well as alcohol.

Rob in Seattle

[jimD]

Nice to hear about the stove.

Can you say more about your 3 month adventure on the Great Divide Route?

Cheers,

JimD