Sam Hillborne, 700x47 Marathon Greenguard, SKS Longboard

[Scot Brooks]

Many of you probably know already, but this combination actually fits. I mean, it's super tight and requires a fair bit of fiddling to get just right, but I'm sitting here in amazement that it worked. I've been experimenting a bit lately; started with 38 Marathon GG, bought some 32 Pasela TGs which I just don't like at all, 35 Marathon Racers (so awesome) that I'll be using for the Seattle to Portland ride this year, and now these 47 Marathon GG which might be even better than the ultra-sweet 38 Marathons. In any case, I bought them as a fenderless-fairweather-camping-tire so it was just an experiment anyway. 

Obviously I'm a sick man, but I knew you'd all understand my slightly obsessive actions and might appreciate the tiny bit of knowledge. Anybody in Seattle looking for some super dirty but practically brand new 700cx32 Pasela TGs? They'll be cheap. 

[Peter Morgano]

Pictures?

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Scot Brooks <scothi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Many of you probably know already, but this combination actually fits. I mean, it's super tight and requires a fair bit of fiddling to get just right, but I'm sitting here in amazement that it worked. I've been experimenting a bit lately; started with 38 Marathon GG, bought some 32 Pasela TGs which I just don't like at all, 35 Marathon Racers (so awesome) that I'll be using for the Seattle to Portland ride this year, and now these 47 Marathon GG which might be even better than the ultra-sweet 38 Marathons. In any case, I bought them as a fenderless-fairweather-camping-tire so it was just an experiment anyway. 

Obviously I'm a sick man, but I knew you'd all understand my slightly obsessive actions and might appreciate the tiny bit of knowledge. Anybody in Seattle looking for some super dirty but practically brand new 700cx32 Pasela TGs? They'll be cheap. 

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[Scot Brooks]

And photos. http://imgur.com/a/PqkMV

Not terribly revealing, but something anyway. Yes, that's a barrel adjuster on the back of my Sheldon's Fender Nut. No good reason. 

[Peter Morgano]

thats so tight it might be safer than a the bit of space between my Hetres an VO Zeppelins on my Hilsen.  You went for almost Atlantis esque tires on a Hillborne, good show!

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Scot Brooks <scothi...@gmail.com> wrote:

And photos. http://imgur.com/a/PqkMV

Not terribly revealing, but something anyway. Yes, that's a barrel adjuster on the back of my Sheldon's Fender Nut. No good reason. 

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[charlie]

I have the older 700x47's (the non Green Guards) on my Trucker and
enjoy the confidence they inspire when riding over crummy roads. It
just takes the stress out of my ride when I roll with those tires.
Glad to see they fit a frame with side pull brakes. I wondered about
that actually as I like the ease of set up with side pulls.

[Joe Bernard]

I like the barrel adjuster. Ya never know when you might need to squirt a bit of Sheldon's Fender Nut Grease in there. ;-)

[EricP]

That's the newer Hillborne.  Which does fit larger tires.  The first generation is good for 40.  Pretty sure a 45 would not work out.  Not so much the fork at the chainstays.

 

If I remember correctly, Jim Thill at Hiawatha Cyclery installed a set of WTB 700x45s on a orange Hillborne.

 

Glad to know the newer ones take bigger tires.  There are many times I wish for a slightly larger tire on my SH.

 

Eric Platt

St. Paul, MN

[Scotty]

I had to remove my longboards from my AHH because they did not quite work with the 700X38 Schwalbe Marathons. Technically they fit but there was just enough of a rub to be really annoying to me. I could not adjust them out enough. Those look pretty close on your Sam. Do they roll without rubbing at all?

[Scot Brooks]

I use a 38 as my daily commuting tires, and those are cutting it pretty close on the Sam as well. Weird thing is that the size difference is very slight between the 38 and the 47, at least to my eyes. I got zero rubbing with the 47s while the bike was just on the stand. Real world? Yeah, there would probably be a little I guess. I won't be using these with fenders though, just rolling around on the nice days. 

[Jim]

So it's not just me :-)

I have the same setup with 700 x 38 Duremes.  I managed to get it to not rub rolling straight, but in the turns, the fender isn't stiff enough laterally to keep from a hint of rub.  I can live with it.  But there is not an extra millmeter there, not one.

Jim in Boulder

[Minh]

Hmmm. So would the 38 not fit on an orange Sam? And to Scott or Jim, would there be more clearance if the bike used cantis instead of side pulls?

I have 700x35 supremes with metal fenders and good clearance now, wanted to go 38 at least on the next set.

[Scot Brooks]

The cantis would make a difference in the front, not so much in the rear.

[Scotty]

I actually think it is the sidepull brake that causes the clearance issue that I have. Its really not much of an issue as the rub is very light and does not cause resistance, only a sound that bothers me. I have had someone tell me that they had the same setup on an Atlantis (Canti) with no issue, no rub. If your Sam has canti brakes I would bet that you would be fine with 38s. I actually wanted a Sam because they had Canti brakes but by the time I went to order they had changed to sidepulls. That was a move that disapointed me.