Altantis - Trouble mounting a Pletscher double kickstand

[The Cripler]

Being that I am a habitual bike leaner, I have grown accustomed to paint chips and marks on all parts of my bike. However, I for some reason feel guilty just  leaning the Atlantis up against whatever I findt. So I decided that i would invest in a pletscher double kickstand. Unfortunately I came up against some mounting problems. My atlantis has no mounting plate. I didnt think this would be an issue, as I would just wrap the stays and use the plastic bit that coes with the kickstand. well, this apparently was wrong. Is seem as though the stay distance between the bottom bracket and the fender bridge isnt long enough to mount the kickstand without pinching, or rubbing againd the front derraileur cable. So, my question is, "Am i just out of luck in using this kickstand?". I amgine there are ways to modify the top plate...but i dont want to hassle with this. Has anyone else ran into this problem? If so , what was your solution? Is there a different kickstand i should try? 

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

Take a file to the kickstand top plate... make a notch just deep enough. I did it 4-yrs ago on my wife's non-Riv daily commuter and no issues. --Andy 

[Stephen S]

I had a similar issue with the double kickstand mounted using the black plastic pieces on my 56 Rambouillet. What I did was make sure that the bolt head was rotated so that the cable wasn't rubbing on it. I can post a pic when I get home from work. 

Stephen

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:03:10 AM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

[The Cripler]

Steven,

 

A picture would be great thanks!

 

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:03:10 AM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

[Stephen S]

So It looks like mine rubs a tiny bit also. I was able to move the kickstand back enough to not have it rub but it's not shown in this pic. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/noryia/7601021180/in/photostream 

Stephen

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

The tight kickstand/cable clearance on my wife's Kona is a bit closer than a pinch or a rub... http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/7604199554/ It's been fine for several years with this big-a-notch. If you're worried about compromising the strength of the kickstand plate, rather than a "notch" file out a fair curve. 

--Andy

 

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:03:10 AM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

[Stephen S]

Nice.  That "notch" is awesome

Cripler, with the small amount of rubbing you could consider either filing it down or removing the black plastic pieces and wrapping the chainstays with some rubber from some old tubes. That would lower the top plate enough to not rub. Just be careful and don't tighten it too much and consider using some loctite on the bolt.

Stephen

[The Cripler]

Ok. So it looks as though it may be time to get a little crafty. I think I can manage to dremmel out a notch...i'll have to take a look and see I'll have enough space to solve the issue. andy - my issue looks more similar to what you were facing, so I have some hope. Stephen - I thought wrapping the stays with some celest bar tape I had, I actually tried it and I just didn't feel comfortable ratcheting that bolt down tight enough for the kickstand to hold firm. I figure nicked paint is more appealing than crushed chainstays.

[Stephen S]

Yeah I know what you mean but the rubber would give me than the cloth bar tape. Either way do what you think will work =).

As much as I don't like kickstands aesthetically it has been fairly convenient when commuting to work.

Stephen

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

RE: kickstand convenience... I went on an organized ride recently. Of the 60 or so bikes, mine was the only one with a kickstand. I'd stand 'er up right in the middle of all the leaning/laying bikes. I think someone commented at each of the 4 checkpoints and at the start/finish. 

--Andy

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:03:10 AM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

[Marty]

Not sure where I came up with this, but it might be an option to lower everything down and allow the cable to slide by. I have this on my QB at the moment, but it seems like it would work for a bike with under-shell wires. (Which by the way, my QB has - was that common?) Anyone know of a source for this type of kickstand klamp? Another thing I've done is use a SS cap screw in place of the hex bolt - they are a bit more low-profile. 

http://tinyurl.com/bwf3pcv

Marty

[William]

From your picture it looks like it's the head of the bolt that is rubbing.  That's tricky to notch.  An Allen head bolt will be smaller in diameter but a hair taller in stack height.  That might clear it with no notching necessary

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:03:10 AM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote: