Roadeo and fenders?

[JL]

Hello Roadeo riders, I am seeking information and first hand accounts
from you. What are real world limits to tire size with and without
fenders? With what brakes/tires/fenders?

Thanks
JL

[Kelly Sleeper]

We haven't pushed the limits but my wires Roadeo was running JB's with SKS fenders. I did't seem room for much bigger than that.. but a 35 would most likely squeeze in there.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/5833548939/in/set-72157626963139970
From the front showing the side pulls with fender .. not room for bigger fenders anyway.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/5834103836/in/set-72157626963139970

So after walking down stairs and looking again... I wouldn't want to try to go any bigger than the JB's.. but since she has 700x27's now I can't really compare.

later
Kelly

[rperks]

I have fit JB and fenders, but it was tight in the rear at the brake.
Fenders are the PB 45mm. I have the Shimano brakes on mine. Vertical
space at the bridge was the challenge. Fattest tires have been the
schwalbe 700-37 XR

Pics on Flickr
http://flic.kr/p/92oQDe

Rob
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[J L]

Kelly, Rob

Thanks for the feedback.  I am considering a Roadeo and I wondered how much I can stretch the fat tire advantage.

JL

[Joe Bernard]

Those bikes are SO pretty. I love the white-with-red. Buy it, Jason!

[Anne Paulson]

If you're really considering pushing the fat tire advantage, then
maybe you should also think whether the Roadeo is the right bike for
this application. Not dissing the Roadeo-- I have one, I love it, I
ride it all the time-- but if you bought a different Rivendell model
you wouldn't have to hassle with squeezing a 33 mm tire under the
fenders. If you want flexibility with tire width, perhaps an Atlantis?
Or a different Riv model?

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[Kelly Sleeper]

Or even the AHH.. Bigger tires not much weight difference

[rperks]

I think it really does depend on what you hope to get out of the bike,
in conjunction with where you weigh in relative to your height. I
think it would be hard to dispute that the average riv bike is a
little overbuilt, and the roadeo is at the lightest weight tubing,
with the hilsen coming up next. We hopefully also realize that it is
not the weight that makes the difference but the amount of steel in
the tube causing the weight, i.e wall thicknes and diameter of the
tube. If you are 6' tall and skinny almost everything in their line
up is going to work like a heavy touring bike for you short of the
roadeo. And with that being said the roadeo will limit you to 31mm
tires and fancy metal fender or 33 and plastic fenders. That is not a
bad thing, particularly if you are a light rider and ride light.

I have enjoyed my roadeo quite a bit. Every time I wish it was able
to haul more or fit a bigger tire with the fender, I take a step back
and realise it is close to perfect for what it was meant to be. If
you are a bit heavy for your height and want a little more tire, get a
hilsen. If you are somewhere in the middle talk to Mark, Kevin or
Grant and they will not steer you down the wrong path. Yes they want
to sell bikes, but they want happy customers more.

Rob

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[Kelly Sleeper]

I couldn't disagree more that everything but the Roadeo rides like a heavy tour bike.

Especially the the AHH which feels quick and responsive. Plus a kickstand plate :)

Kelly

[rperks]

Kelly,
I have seen the pictures, and know that you ride a fairly large bike.
I would guess that you are a slim 6'6"? I am curious if you are
willing to share, your estimated average weight of rider plus gear?

I think that based on your proportions you may be an outlier to the
average guy/gal on a 54 or 56. It is also my best guess that Grant
specifies different tube thicknesses for the different sizes, and
would likely spec a thicker tube for a bike as large as yours.
Although, there is an upper limit to what is readily availile in wall
thickness with a butted end, and thus straight gauge or the double top
tube to reduce percieved twist in the larger frame.

With regard to quick and responsive, I am on the cusp of agreeing with
you at 210lbs. Quite a few of the riv owners I met are north of 190,
if not well north of 210. After reading here a long time there is a
subtle trend for the smaller riders to love the fit, but move on to
bikes from other builders that are lighter/greater flex.

We all still love out Rivs though, for the scenic route and then
bringing home the groceries they are hard to beat.

Rob

[Kelly Sleeper]

Rob,

First I don't dispute what may or may not be a trend for smaller riders buying new bikes.. (oh that song.. short people got on reason) sorry cough...

So me.. I do wish I was slim... actually I'm turning into an old fat guy.. .54 years old

6'5" tall 230 lbs (grrrrrr terrible and worst since I've kept track of weight in 10 years at end of season) grrr...
AHH 24 lbs before loading up 29 after .. with my big bag on there.. per this photo..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/5826112046/in/set-72157625432975212

I ride the AHH in pace lines at 20 ish mph and above and it handles them fantastic. I ride centuries on it, and have run it on 50 mph down hills with turns that it truly excelled at. I find it more comfortable and just a joy to climb with and ride in general.
I don't have it as a putt putt heavy arse tour bike and would not still have it today if it road that way. I came from this bike... and on man this was speed...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/5155759637/in/set-72157625210417815

At the social pace of 17 18 mph on the flats no real difference between the two other than the glorious comfort of the homer.. at speed at the 24 mph 25 ish stuff I'm too up right on the homer... to much like work and I even sweat.. ewwww....
climbing feels just as good on the homer.. the Giant carried speed better.. went down hill faster.. oh thank you mavic... at 65 mph that thing was a beast.. yum.. so ya for 5% of all my riding time and on a year when all I did was look at other mens butts in pace lines the Giant had a good place in my heart... today I ride in pace lines on the homer in more comfort with a good quick fast feel .. and the only groups I can't keep up with are the ones I could just barely hang onto before with draft.. but I didn't enjoy those anyway. Since I had the speed bike I get it.. and see why one would go that way and they will be back.. being short and with all the other choices at half the price out there... they have to love the look...

Me I hate compact frames and long seat posts.. it's all I could do for a long time.. now yuck.. even think my bombadill has to much seat post.. and sloping top tube... hmmm.. maybe a 69 cm custom based on an atlantis with a double horizontal top tube.. room for 700x60's with fenders.. ooops I digress again.. honest I'm not drinking...

my other fixie.. check out that seat post.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/5155725333/in/set-72157625210417815/

I'm rambling.. look.. bikes have to earn their spot in my garage.. Rivendell has done that by being responsive in feel and agile to allow me to ride with the friends on plastic bikes.. an old heavy tour bike doesn't fit that bill. The AHH to me is a solid canadate for anyone wanting a great ride that is quick, responsive and versatile .. I'll shut up now..

Wait I lied.. part of it is how do you want to ride a bike... do you focus on what you don't have 5% of the time or what you have the rest...
I miss clipless pedals on occasion.. just not enough to give up my platforms... I miss a 17 lb bike on occasion during a city line sprint.. hell that happened in August .. only once during the entire 2011 season but I missed it..

Now I'll shut up.. did I mention my wife turned her Roadeo into a one trick pony.. how do you ride em that way.. no dyno hub.. spd pedals that would kill your feet if you didn't have riding shoes some little seat bag with no room for a gallon of milk or anything... might as well be a plastic bike for all the uses it has now.. :) doesn't even have a kickstand plate.. sheesh have to find trees to lean it against... love ya homer... :)

Kelly

PS.. Sorry ya asked now aren't ya Rob.. lol sheesh I'm a moron.