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Alex

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Hello everybody,
just updated both dom0 and a freshly installed fedora-21-minimal to
the latest tools.

Cloned the fedora-21-minimal template, named it "f21-skype" since it
will be used as a standalone vm for the mentioned spyw.. oops, program.

Downloaded the RPM from the skype website, $ sudo yum install
skype.rpm, successfully completed, then added the skype program to the
appmenu.

The menu in dom0 did not update (I did not try to logoff and back on
again, but that's not still the problem), so I tried from dom0 with

$ qvm-sync-appmenus f21-skype

which gave me a series of lines like this, for all the apps enabled in
VM manager:
- ----> Failed to get icon for skype.desktop: No icon received
before terminating with "kbuildsycoca4 running".

Why are there such errors? What do they mean?

The app menu now does contain the icons, but they don't work (i.e.
clicking on them starts the KDE throbber, but no app is launched in
the appvm nor does any window appear).

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Alex
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Jeremias E.

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Hello,

sometimes they are some icon can not be received, because the icon's have the wrong format for qvm-appmenu-sync.

From my experience the Skype icons should be recognized.

You can look at the skype.desktop file and search for the icon, to provide further information about this behavior.

Best regards
  J. Eppler

Marek Marczykowski-Górecki

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Sep 18, 2015, 3:19:42 PM9/18/15
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On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 09:47:31AM +0200, Alex wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> just updated both dom0 and a freshly installed fedora-21-minimal to
> the latest tools.
>
> Cloned the fedora-21-minimal template, named it "f21-skype" since it
> will be used as a standalone vm for the mentioned spyw.. oops, program.
>
> Downloaded the RPM from the skype website, $ sudo yum install
> skype.rpm, successfully completed, then added the skype program to the
> appmenu.
>
> The menu in dom0 did not update (I did not try to logoff and back on
> again, but that's not still the problem), so I tried from dom0 with
>
> $ qvm-sync-appmenus f21-skype
>
> which gave me a series of lines like this, for all the apps enabled in
> VM manager:
> ----> Failed to get icon for skype.desktop: No icon received
> before terminating with "kbuildsycoca4 running".
>
> Why are there such errors? What do they mean?
>
> The app menu now does contain the icons, but they don't work (i.e.
> clicking on them starts the KDE throbber, but no app is launched in
> the appvm nor does any window appear).

I think there are two _separate_ issues:
1. Failed skype icon retrieval
2. App menu entries not working

While the first one is rather minor (you should still see Skype option,
but with generic icon), the second one looks more disturbing.
Try calling application pointed by any such icon, but add "-p" option to
qvm-run. For example:
qvm-run -p --tray -a VMNAME 'qubes-desktop-run
/usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop'



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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Alex

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Sep 19, 2015, 3:38:51 AM9/19/15
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On 09/18/2015 09:19 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> [...]
>
> I think there are two _separate_ issues: 1. Failed skype icon
> retrieval 2. App menu entries not working
>
> While the first one is rather minor (you should still see Skype
> option, but with generic icon), the second one looks more
> disturbing. Try calling application pointed by any such icon, but
> add "-p" option to qvm-run. For example: qvm-run -p --tray -a
> VMNAME 'qubes-desktop-run
> /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop'

Thank you Marek, trying to manually run the appmenu entries this way I
received an error message, linked to missing dbus-python package on
the minimal template. A simple "yum install dbus-python" fixed the
issue for nearly all of the entries, apart from one:
org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop, which fails with a different error.

The error is:
dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBUS.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: /bin.dbus-launch
terminated abnormally without any error message

and the associated traceback is:
File "/usr/bin/qubes-desktop-run", line 7, in <module>
launch(*sys.argv[1:])
File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/xdg.py", line 12, in
launch
bus = dbus.SessionBus()
File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 211,
in __new__
mainloop=mainloop)
File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 100,
in __new__
bus = BusConnection.__new__(subclass, bus_type, mainloop=mainloop)
File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 122, in
__new__
bus = cls._new_for_bus(address_or_type, mainloop=mainloop)

The fedora-21-minimal template I installed is version
3.0.3-201507081320, and apart from installing skype and firefox (and
now the dbus-python package) no other settings were altered or
configurations made.

For the icons, I tried again with the dbus-python package installed,
but still no luck. Trying to manually find the icons (by the algorithm
described in
http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/icon-theme-spec-latest.
html)
yielded some funny results:
- - skype.desktop specifies a "skype.png" icon file, which can be found
in /usr/share/pixmap/skype.png; still, qvm-sync-appmenu does not
receive any icon
- - xterm.desktop specifies a "xterm-color" icon (without any
extension), but in /usr/share/pixmap there are many xterm-color files,
with appended size and extension: xterm-color_32x32.xpm,
xterm-color_48x48.xpm. The specification calls for subdirectories
(instead of filename suffixes) for icons with different sizes; so I
don't know if (or how) this can possibly work. I'm not that expert
with linux GUIs to figure this out...
- - firefox.desktop specifies a "firefox" icon which is nowhere to be
found in /usr/share/pixmap.

For the record, there is no /home/user/.icons directory and I could
not find the $XDG_DATA_DIRS variable set, to look for
$XDG_DATA_DIRS/icons, so I only looked for icons in /usr/share/pixmap.
There are some other XDG variables set, namely XDG_SEAT,
XDG_SESSION_ID and XDG_VTNR, anyway.

Thank you again for the support; I'm hoping on the fix for Nautilus,
while I agree that the icons are a minor nuisance. Still, I'm
available for testing if the problem will be taken care of and cannot
be reproduced on your side.

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Alex
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Marek Marczykowski-Górecki

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On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 09:38:43AM +0200, Alex wrote:
> On 09/18/2015 09:19 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > I think there are two _separate_ issues: 1. Failed skype icon
> > retrieval 2. App menu entries not working
> >
> > While the first one is rather minor (you should still see Skype
> > option, but with generic icon), the second one looks more
> > disturbing. Try calling application pointed by any such icon, but
> > add "-p" option to qvm-run. For example: qvm-run -p --tray -a
> > VMNAME 'qubes-desktop-run
> > /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop'
>
> Thank you Marek, trying to manually run the appmenu entries this way I
> received an error message, linked to missing dbus-python package on
> the minimal template. A simple "yum install dbus-python" fixed the
> issue for nearly all of the entries,

Ok, I'll add missing dependency...

> apart from one:
> org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop, which fails with a different error.
>
> The error is:
> dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
> org.freedesktop.DBUS.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: /bin.dbus-launch

Really "." there, or just a typo here?

> terminated abnormally without any error message
>
> and the associated traceback is:
> File "/usr/bin/qubes-desktop-run", line 7, in <module>
> launch(*sys.argv[1:])
> File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/xdg.py", line 12, in
> launch
> bus = dbus.SessionBus()
> File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 211,
> in __new__
> mainloop=mainloop)
> File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 100,
> in __new__
> bus = BusConnection.__new__(subclass, bus_type, mainloop=mainloop)
> File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 122, in
> __new__
> bus = cls._new_for_bus(address_or_type, mainloop=mainloop)
>
> The fedora-21-minimal template I installed is version
> 3.0.3-201507081320, and apart from installing skype and firefox (and
> now the dbus-python package) no other settings were altered or
> configurations made.

I'll check that, but most likely minimal template is too minimal for
nautilus to work ;)
Check ~/.xsession-errors - maybe there will be some more details.

> For the icons, I tried again with the dbus-python package installed,
> but still no luck. Trying to manually find the icons (by the algorithm
> described in
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/icon-theme-spec-latest.
> html)
> yielded some funny results:
> - skype.desktop specifies a "skype.png" icon file, which can be found
> in /usr/share/pixmap/skype.png; still, qvm-sync-appmenu does not
> receive any icon

Indeed our tools ignore /usr/share/pixmap. Similar issue is already
reported here:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1171
Adding "/usr/share/pixmap" there should be trivial.

> - xterm.desktop specifies a "xterm-color" icon (without any
> extension), but in /usr/share/pixmap there are many xterm-color files,
> with appended size and extension: xterm-color_32x32.xpm,
> xterm-color_48x48.xpm. The specification calls for subdirectories
> (instead of filename suffixes) for icons with different sizes; so I
> don't know if (or how) this can possibly work. I'm not that expert
> with linux GUIs to figure this out...
> - firefox.desktop specifies a "firefox" icon which is nowhere to be
> found in /usr/share/pixmap.
>
> For the record, there is no /home/user/.icons directory and I could
> not find the $XDG_DATA_DIRS variable set, to look for
> $XDG_DATA_DIRS/icons, so I only looked for icons in /usr/share/pixmap.
> There are some other XDG variables set, namely XDG_SEAT,
> XDG_SESSION_ID and XDG_VTNR, anyway.

XDG_DATA_DIRS defaults to /usr/share, so the directory is
/usr/share/icons.

> Thank you again for the support; I'm hoping on the fix for Nautilus,
> while I agree that the icons are a minor nuisance. Still, I'm
> available for testing if the problem will be taken care of and cannot
> be reproduced on your side.

- --
Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Alex

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On 09/19/2015 11:20 AM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 09:38:43AM +0200, Alex wrote:
>> The error is: dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
>> org.freedesktop.DBUS.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: /bin.dbus-launch
>
> Really "." there, or just a typo here?
My bad, I'm too lazy to copy a proper file from dom0 so I copied it by
hand. It was meant to be a slash =)

> [...]
>
> I'll check that, but most likely minimal template is too minimal
> for nautilus to work ;) Check ~/.xsession-errors - maybe there will
> be some more details.
I'm sorry I did not mention that before (actually, a little out of
scope for the previous mail), but nautilus work perfectly both when
started from a terminal or when started with the "Run command in vm"
menu entry in the VM manager.

In "~/.xsession-errors" a couple lines appear for every command run
from qubes-desktop-run, but they are not errors:

executed (nowait) nautilus pid 850
send exit code 0

and there are no error lines connected to the execution (or attempted
execution) of nautilus.

> [...]
>
> XDG_DATA_DIRS defaults to /usr/share, so the directory is
> /usr/share/icons.
Thank you for the direction; as it turns out, in /usr/share/icons
(subfolders) there are the icons for both firefox (firefox.png) and
xterm-color (both xterm-color.png and xterm-color.svg), but not for
every theme (xterm-color only in hicolor/, firefox in both hicolor/
and HighContrast/), the icons cannot be found in the Adwaita/ theme
folder. Does the qvm-sync-appmenu tool look in specific theme folders?

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Alex
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On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 12:09:41PM +0200, Alex wrote:
> On 09/19/2015 11:20 AM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 09:38:43AM +0200, Alex wrote:
> >> The error is: dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
> >> org.freedesktop.DBUS.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: /bin.dbus-launch
> >
> > Really "." there, or just a typo here?
> My bad, I'm too lazy to copy a proper file from dom0 so I copied it by
> hand. It was meant to be a slash =)
>
> > [...]
> >
> > I'll check that, but most likely minimal template is too minimal
> > for nautilus to work ;) Check ~/.xsession-errors - maybe there will
> > be some more details.
> I'm sorry I did not mention that before (actually, a little out of
> scope for the previous mail), but nautilus work perfectly both when
> started from a terminal or when started with the "Run command in vm"
> menu entry in the VM manager.
>
> In "~/.xsession-errors" a couple lines appear for every command run
> from qubes-desktop-run, but they are not errors:
>
> executed (nowait) nautilus pid 850
> send exit code 0
>
> and there are no error lines connected to the execution (or attempted
> execution) of nautilus.

So this is probably about dbus activation not working - nautilus is one
of few applications using that feature...
What happens when you start dbus-launch manually?

> > [...]
> >
> > XDG_DATA_DIRS defaults to /usr/share, so the directory is
> > /usr/share/icons.
> Thank you for the direction; as it turns out, in /usr/share/icons
> (subfolders) there are the icons for both firefox (firefox.png) and
> xterm-color (both xterm-color.png and xterm-color.svg), but not for
> every theme (xterm-color only in hicolor/, firefox in both hicolor/
> and HighContrast/), the icons cannot be found in the Adwaita/ theme
> folder. Does the qvm-sync-appmenu tool look in specific theme folders?

It looks for the icon in all the themes there. #1171 linked previously
is about further improving icon selection algorithm.

- --
Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Alex

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On 09/19/2015 12:14 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 12:09:41PM +0200, Alex wrote: [...] So this
> is probably about dbus activation not working - nautilus is one of
> few applications using that feature... What happens when you start
> dbus-launch manually?
>
I feel very dumb, and I owe you - /bin/dbus-launch did not exist in
fedora-21-minimal, and I did not even check...

Anyway, adding package dbus-x11 solves the problem: the package
provides /bin/dbus-launch among other things, and I checked - nautilus
starts.

Hope that adding both packages gives a fully functional f21 minimal
template; still, it will be about time to update to a f23 minimal =)

Thank you again Marek
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Alex
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