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“It was a cordial discussion, considering the topic, and you could see how you could argue both sides on the face of it,” said one source. “But I think Damore’s focus on biology really made it clear that he had crossed the line.”
What turned the tide, said sources, was when it was noted that if Damore’s dubious contentions about women’s skills were replaced by those about race or religion, there would be no debate.
In fact, Wojcicki [CEO Youtube] said as much in her essay:
“For instance, what if we replaced the word ‘women’ in the memo with another group? What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? I don’t ask this to compare one group to another, but rather to point out that the language of discrimination can take many different forms and none are acceptable or productive.”
According to this report of the meeting to determine how Google should respond . ..“It was a cordial discussion, considering the topic, and you could see how you could argue both sides on the face of it,” said one source. “But I think Damore’s focus on biology really made it clear that he had crossed the line.”What turned the tide, said sources, was when it was noted that if Damore’s dubious contentions about women’s skills were replaced by those about race or religion, there would be no debate.In fact, Wojcicki [CEO Youtube] said as much in her essay:“For instance, what if we replaced the word ‘women’ in the memo with another group? What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? I don’t ask this to compare one group to another, but rather to point out that the language of discrimination can take many different forms and none are acceptable or productive.”Where are the critical thinking skills in this passage? For example if I truly assert "My plant needs watering and plant food" and you point out that if we replace "my plant" by "Donald Trump" the result is false in what way does this show that my original statement was unfounded? Or is it that this woman actually doesn't care if the original thesis was true or false and that it should be rejected simply because if it were predicated of any group it would be rejected by the majority and is therefore 'unacceptable and unproductive'.
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The whole matter is taking on the feel of a calving glacier at the beginning of spring.
These diversity people remind me of the political commissars in the old Soviet army. Senior officers were genuinely scared of these people whose reports could make you disappear. I'm glad I don't work for Goolag.Markhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_ArmyOfficers who remained soon found all of their decisions being closely examined by political officers, even in mundane matters such as record-keeping and field training exercises.[84] An atmosphere of fear and unwillingness to take the initiative soon pervaded the Red Army; ...... The purges significantly impaired the combat capabilities of the Red Army. Hoyt concludes "the Soviet defense system was damaged to the point of incompetence" and stresses "the fear in which high officers lived."[85] Clark says, " Stalin not only cut the heart out of the army, he also gave it brain damage."[86] Lewin identifies three serious results: the loss of experienced and well-trained senior officers; the distrust it caused among potential allies especially France; and the encouragement it gave Germany.[87][88]
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Terry Palfrey <terrypa...@gmail.com> wrote:
The whole matter is taking on the feel of a calving glacier at the beginning of spring.
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