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Muriel

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Apr 12, 2013, 10:01:34 AM4/12/13
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Hello,
 
I have a question on the taxonomy generated after Summarize Communities by Taxonomic Composition.
 
What is the difference with the 2 taxonomy below that were both in the same file? Why is one line with "Other ; other) and one with "f _ g".
 
 
Root;p__Actinobacteria;c__Actinobacteria;o__Coriobacteriales;Other;Other
Root;p__Actinobacteria;c__Actinobacteria;o__Coriobacteriales;f__;g__

 

Kind regards,
 
Muriel

Tony Walters

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Apr 12, 2013, 11:39:04 AM4/12/13
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Hello Muriel, 

The "Other" assignments are due to ambiguity when the RDP classifier tries to assign below the order level in this case (can't decide between distinct taxa). The f__;g__ means that it did match a reference sequence well, but that reference sequence is poorly defined (not named at family level or lower).

Hope this helps,
Tony

 
Muriel

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Muriel

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Apr 13, 2013, 9:13:07 AM4/13/13
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Hi Tony,
 
thanks for the reply. I take the opportunity also to ask you how it is possible to split the headers of the columns at the different levels of taxonomy. My problem is when I open the level 6 file in excel, all the taxonomy is within a header row.
For example to show split at each underscore between eg: root_actinobacteria;c_actinobacteria;o_etc into columns with header: root actionbacteria_c actinobacterio_o
 
thanks,
 
Muriel

Tony Walters

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Apr 13, 2013, 12:03:22 PM4/13/13
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Hello Muriel,

You probably want to split on semicolons, as those are separating the taxonomic levels.  See this thread about splitting with Excel (http://www.mrexcel.com/forum/excel-questions/416510-split-data-after-each-semicolon.html)

-Tony

Muriel

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Apr 13, 2013, 2:39:09 PM4/13/13
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Hi Tony,
 
yes it owrked in excel in "data" then "convert".
 
Thanks,
 
Muriel

Muriel

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Apr 21, 2013, 10:49:30 AM4/21/13
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Dear Tony,
 
I come back to you again concerning the file "level 6"=genus generated after "taxa summary". I realized that for some genera (Clostridium, Ruminococcus", I do have several lines with the same taxonomy. For example for Clostridium I do have 4 times this line, and in each line, I have relative abundance >0%.
 
Root;p__Firmicutes;c__Clostridia;o__Clostridiales;f__Ruminococcaceae;g__Clostridium
 
 
 Is it correct to add the relative abundance of each line into the genus "Clostridium" or did something go wrong with the database? I used greengenes.

Muriel

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Apr 21, 2013, 10:59:34 AM4/21/13
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just an extra information. Actually the 4 lines with Clostridium genus have different families.
 
Root;p__Firmicutes;c__Clostridia;o__Clostridiales;f__Clostridiaceae;g__Clostridium
Root;p__Firmicutes;c__Clostridia;o__Clostridiales;f__Lachnospiraceae;g__Clostridium
Root;p__Firmicutes;c__Clostridia;o__Clostridiales;f__Ruminococcaceae;g__Clostridium

Root;p__Tenericutes;c__Erysipelotrichi;o__Erysipelotrichales;f__Erysipelotrichaceae;g__Clostridium

Is it correct to sum the % of abundance of each into genus "Clostridium"?

 

Muriel

 

 

 

 

Tony Walters

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Apr 21, 2013, 11:09:18 AM4/21/13
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Hello Muriel,

I wouldn't sum them in this case-you want the taxonomy string to completely match before summing (some of the older taxonomic naming conventions based on morphology/biochemistry don't always match with phylogeny, as you can see here).

-Tony
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