please keep either raw rs232 pinouts / connector, and either a jumper or switch for boot select.
Greetings All,if you have a wishlist and/or things you wanted changed on the next generation OMAP5 community development board, now is the time to provide them!
I captured the input so far, is it as below. Please keep the top list growing and as is and have your discussions below the list.
Around 15 members gave input, would like input from all. Please give input on all aspects of Panda to help us improve.
I will segregate it into OMAP5 wish-list, wiki wishlist, community wish-list etc etc – have more categories:
- Upgrade to LSR TiWi5 module
- Expansion and LCD headers – even if they cost more
- Instead of or along with switch for boot-loader have a switch to select the external wifi antenna
- Remove DB-9 serial port and instead just put a 10-pin header (easier in enclosures with ribbon cable)
o Switch to low profile usb-serial would be better option
o Make it as flat as possible – don’t use vertically stacked 3.5 mm and USB/RJ45 combination sockets
o Please don’t ditch DB9 connector – hate to source extra parts just to get the board running first time
o Have some _raw_ RS232 available – don’t care what connector it has
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- Include camera expansion connector with support for dual camera sensor – can try some 3D image processing
- Have the board either 100% open or fully supported, don’t give answers like “not available or license restrictions”
- Would be nice if “ducati” was more transparent wrt kernel interface – like what galaxy nexus and openmax did
- More LED’s – blinking LED have high value to show off!
- Expose SATA Link
- 1 USB3 OTG and three USB2 host links – so that no need for USB hub
- Ethernet 10/100 is fine but a pair of 10/100/1000 links desirable
- 12VDC automotive battery safe power option
- microSD – have ability for removable boot device
- 4GB of RAM if not at least 2GB
- logic latch so the phone developer can hard disable external chips/devices that clutter his goals
- full clock speed of 2GHz
- HDMI and whatever other display the chip exposes
- Four camera
- Wifi and Bluetooth
- Better documentation
- Shorter and smaller more easily embedded
-
Concerns
- Power out concern for four USB devices
Got few more additions to the list:
Desirable:
- Upgrade to LSR TiWi5 module
- Expansion and LCD headers – even if they cost more
- Instead of or along with switch for boot-loader have a switch to select the external wifi antenna
- Selectable boot options from Flash or Jumpers
o Default USB boot instead of MMC boot
- Remove DB-9 serial port and instead just put a 10-pin header (easier in enclosures with ribbon cable)
o Switch to low profile usb-serial would be better option
o Make it as flat as possible – don’t use vertically stacked 3.5 mm and USB/RJ45 combination sockets
o Please don’t ditch DB9 connector – hate to source extra parts just to get the board running first time
o Have some _raw_ RS232 available – don’t care what connector it has
- Flash on Board ( 1 MB , NAND ?? )
o Boot From flash
- All Connectors populated ( either expansion connector / standard connector )
o JTAG , Camera, LCD ,USB , SATA , PCIe , HDMI , etc or provision for expansion board which has connections for remaining
- Include camera expansion connector with support for dual camera sensor – can try some 3D image processing
- Have the board either 100% open or fully supported, don’t give answers like “not available or license restrictions”
- Would be nice if “ducati” was more transparent wrt kernel interface – like what galaxy nexus and openmax did
- More LED’s – blinking LED have high value to show off!
- Expose SATA Link
- 1 USB3 OTG and three USB2 host links – so that no need for USB hub
- Ethernet 10/100 is fine but a pair of 10/100/1000 links desirable
- 12VDC automotive battery safe power option
- microSD – have ability for removable boot device
- 4GB of RAM if not at least 2GB
o scalable memory if possible
- logic latch so the phone developer can hard disable external chips/devices that clutter his goals
- full clock speed of 2GHz
- HDMI and whatever other display the chip exposes
- Four camera
- Wifi and Bluetooth
- Better documentation
- Shorter and smaller more easily embedded
- Container Box with power supply
o 110/230 V power supply box which can house panda5 board and bring out required connections out.
o This would reduce ESD mis-handling.
- ARM-DS5 community edition support continued
- BIOS Firmware support
o Something similar to Award BIOS on PC/desktops/laptops
o Diagnostics/Self Test on Flash instead of using validation image.
o splash screen
o Ability to Flash BIOS
Got more input from yesterday’s posts to the thread. Tried to capture them all and categorize them.
Some members mentioned message not clear about what Panda is for and where it is going.
Agree that we need to get a clear message out and we will do it in the short future.
We want to capture all input. Some members have mobile in mind and give input in that direction.
Some others have PC like in mind and give input in that direction. We want to hear the community, capture the input.
There is always opportunity for derivative boards if enough community members are leaning towards a segment!
Vikas
Desirable:
Dimensions, connectors and Usability:
- Thinner board – possibly do away with combo USB/ Ethernet and just keep Ethernet and some USB headers
- Pay thought for cable management since lot of people put the boards in racks
- All Connectors populated ( either expansion connector / standard connector )
o JTAG , Camera, LCD ,USB , SATA , PCIe , HDMI , etc or provision for expansion board which has connections for remaining
- Lower barrier for full-image test automation
o Put programmable power controller on board – this can be exposed over USB or over serial
o Perhaps having equivalent of MSP430 on board would be good
- Print some HFAQ on board/PCB – i.e. “Don’t power USB”, “Doesn’t boot without properly prepared SD card”
- Have the board either 100% open or fully supported, don’t give answers like “not available or license restrictions”
- Better documentation
- Shorter and smaller more easily embedded
- Imaging connector that’s in some way compatible with the Leopard imaging modules
- More LED’s – blinking LED have high value to show off!
- logic latch so the phone developer can hard disable external chips/devices that clutter his goals
- full clock speed of 2GHz
- ARM-DS5 community edition support continued
Display:
- Embedded display port/
o Have dual or quad monitor capability out of the box
o Keep LCD interface even if resister changing
- Expansion and LCD headers – even if they cost more
- HDMI and whatever other display the chip exposes
Memory
- Dual channel DDR3 support
o Possibly put 2 desktop RAM slots on board
- Flash on Board ( 1 MB , NAND ?? )
o Boot From flash
- Expose SATA Link
- 4GB of RAM if not at least 2GB
o scalable memory if possible
Connectivity
- Upgrade to LSR TiWi5 module
- Wifi and Bluetooth
- 1 USB3 OTG and three USB2 host links – so that no need for USB hub
- Ethernet 10/100 is fine but a pair of 10/100/1000 links desirable
Booting, debugging
- Instead of or along with switch for boot-loader have a switch to select the external wifi antenna
- Selectable boot options from Flash or Jumpers
o Default USB boot instead of MMC boot
- Remove DB-9 serial port and instead just put a 10-pin header (easier in enclosures with ribbon cable)
o Switch to low profile usb-serial would be better option
o Make it as flat as possible – don’t use vertically stacked 3.5 mm and USB/RJ45 combination sockets
o Please don’t ditch DB9 connector – hate to source extra parts just to get the board running first time
o Have some _raw_ RS232 available – don’t care what connector it has
- BIOS Firmware support
o Something similar to Award BIOS on PC/desktops/laptops
o Diagnostics/Self Test on Flash instead of using validation image.
o splash screen
o Ability to Flash BIOS
Power
- 12VDC automotive battery safe power option
- Container Box with power supply
o 110/230 V power supply box which can house panda5 board and bring out required connections out.
o This would reduce ESD mis-handling.
Camera
- Include camera expansion connector with support for dual camera sensor – can try some 3D image processing
- Would be nice if “ducati” was more transparent wrt kernel interface – like what galaxy nexus and openmax did
- Four camera
Regards Sven
- Have the board either 100% open or fully supported, don’t give answers like “not available or license restrictions”
- Flash on Board ( 1 MB , NAND ?? )
o Boot From flash
- Ethernet 10/100 is fine but a pair of 10/100/1000 links desirable
- Remove DB-9 serial port and instead just put a 10-pin header (easier in enclosures with ribbon cable)
o Switch to low profile usb-serial would be better option
o Make it as flat as possible – don’t use vertically stacked 3.5 mm and USB/RJ45 combination sockets
o Please don’t ditch DB9 connector – hate to source extra parts just to get the board running first time
o Have some _raw_ RS232 available – don’t care what connector it has
- BIOS Firmware support
o Something similar to Award BIOS on PC/desktops/laptops
o Diagnostics/Self Test on Flash instead of using validation image.
o splash screen
o Ability to Flash BIOS
The next Pandaboard should basically be as powerful as TI can make it whilst avoiding:
> > if you have a wishlist and/or things you wanted changed on the next
> > generation OMAP5 community development board, now is the time to provide
> > them!
Expansion (and LCD) headers already in place (even if it costs a
little more)
MicroSD or at least the SD more contained within the board
Instead of a switch for the boot order, a switch to select the
external wifi antenna (or another switch if the one for the boot order
is really used)
Remove the DB-9 serial port and instead put just a 10 pin header (that
will make it easier to place the debugger serial port in enclosures,
with a ribbon cable)
All of this is from a hobby perspective of course, so probably is not
in line with what you need. Anyway I was thinking on something as the
direction of the Exynos4412 Quad-core board (for $129) is heading to
(form-wise)
Lioric
On Aug 3, 9:25 am, Robert Nelson <robertcnel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:10 PM, David Anders <danders....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Greetings All,
>
> > if you have a wishlist and/or things you wanted changed on the next
> > generation OMAP5 community development board, now is the time to provide
> > them!
>
> Looking at the specs of the omap543x's, how about Panda like, but with
> sata and an upgrade to the LSR TiWi5 module...
>
> Of course, if the DRAM prices have fallen enough, 2GB of ram would be
> nice too. ;)
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Robert Nelsonhttp://www.rcn-ee.com/
Greetings All,if you have a wishlist and/or things you wanted changed on the next generation OMAP5 community development board, now is the time to provide them!
Dave
The OMAP4 is generally very cool, but it was the _nominal_ OpenCL support that really attracted me to it, and the lack of _actual_ OpenCL support that has delayed my developing on it.
My summary:
- start with the existing PandaBoard
- as part of replacing the OMAP4 with the OMAP5, _expose_ everything the latter can do (but not necessarily w/full hardware on the main board, daughterboards & headers are fine)
- SATA, SD and _all_ the USB ports (inter alia) should be connectorized, _not_ headers
- SATA, SD and USB boot all should be supported
- I would rather _not_ have flash on the main board (MicroSD is perfect)
- do not skimp on RAM (2GB is an absolute minimum and more is better)
I agree that drivers for each hardware subsystem must be fully open source and/or fully supported.
To facilitate moving beyond hobby scale development, provisions should be made for production volumes (obviously at non-subsidized prices).
All just IMHO, of course.
+1 for 4.3'' LCD touchscreen already in place.
I'm personally interested in running one of these 8.9" 1920x1200 displays from the OMAP5 dev board.http://www.panelook.com/HV089WU1-1E0_HYDIS_8.9_LCM_overview_15453.html (I have the datasheet already)It uses a MIPI interface. You should be able to run 2 or 3 from one OMAP5.If all of the MIPI interfaces are brought out to headers it should be simple to build a hardware adapter board.I am worried though about the software/drivers. If driver support is non-existent like it seemed to be on the Panda it could be really difficult to get them to run.
On Thursday, August 2, 2012 7:10:34 PM UTC-5, David Anders wrote:
My qishlist for the next panda is simple just add micro PCI supportthis way the users can equp it with wathever thy wantsata; sata; radio; rtc clock ...;not just one 2 or 3 at the sides of the bord (the user needs to create a mounting board to fix the extra cardsthxMario
Am Freitag, 3. August 2012 02:10:34 UTC+2 schrieb David Anders:Greetings All,if you have a wishlist and/or things you wanted changed on the next generation OMAP5 community development board, now is the time to provide them!
Dave
This may be a dump question, but ARM hardware cannot offer support for PC style RAM slots? Would that allow use of inexpensive RAM chips? For development hardware, or server, is this possible?
I just noticed that the Arndale has a mechanical power switch and the Origen has this too. Very useful.
On Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:25:34 AM UTC, casso wrote:That board looks similar to the Arndale board.
The board in the video clearly had a pandaboard logo on to me. It seems highly unlikely that Ti would make a board with a competitors chip on it.
The reasons why I think it is taken from the Arndale reference are the two USB OTG ports, the SATA port and the camera interface (bottom of picture).
Two mini/micro USB ports is hardly unusual, with serial ports becoming less common it's quite common to have a dedicated USB device port connected to a USB to serial chip for debugging and a second for an OTG connection to the main processor.
I don't know so much about the audio interfaces so I could be wrong. Either that USB header on the right is for USB3.0, or something is weird with their setup. Why else would you connect a USB to Ethernet adapter, yet have Ethernet support via a header on the left side?
My guess would be that the onboard ethernet isn't working properly in their configuration.
Le 9 mai 2013 19:53, "Jnaneshwar" <jnane...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> I am Jnaneshwar from Bangalore, India. I am new to this community. I am specialist in embedded system. I would like to involve in software development for omap5 based board and also I would like to open distribution centre in India. Kindly share evaluation board for software development purpose and process to become distributor for omap5 board. Please share some more references.
Hmmm.. i am afraid it might be a little too late!
>
> Thanks and regards
> Jnaneshwar B.T.
No private msg, please. Cc pandaboard group.
Le 10 mai 2013 11:18, "Jnaneshwar T" <jnane...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Thank you for response. Any suggestions to proceed further? I am bit serious about it. I would like to buy the hardware board. How can I get it?
OMAP5 panda was cancelled. You should check out the 5432 EVM from svtronics which has lots in common with the never released panda5. However please note that this board is not a pandaboard.org board.
See https://www.svtronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=33
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