FW: [STS-L] July 2 Webinar - Open science and the reward system

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Glenn Hampson

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Jun 29, 2020, 2:00:52 PM6/29/20
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Of possible interest---aligning incentives is an approach this group been championing for some time

 

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Dear List Members,

 

I would like to invite you to a webinar this Thursday on:

 

Open science and the reward system: how can they be aligned?

 

This webinar brings together a panel of experts on open science and career assessment to focus on the current reward system and the potential for its reform. This promises to be a lively exchange of ideas between representatives of Eurodoc, Young Academy of Europe, Marie Curie Alumni Association and Elsevier. The aim is to gain a deeper understanding of possible changes to how we consider academic value, retain mobility internationally and beyond academia, and create incentives for open science activities.

 

REGISTER: https://www.brighttalk.com/webcast/16651/414950/open-science-and-the-reward-system-how-can-they-be-aligned

 

Thursday, July 2

9-10:30 a.m. EDT

 

If you cannot attend live, please register to have the webinar host prompt you to come back and view on demand.

 

All the best,

Colleen

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Fiore, Steve

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Jun 29, 2020, 4:53:29 PM6/29/20
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This is clearly an important topic and one that needs to be addressed.  But do we need to ask what are the ramifications of this being led by an organization like Elsevier?  (BrightTALK is advertised as Elsevier's Research Intelligence division.)  Elsevier has not earned a reputation as an organization that truly cares about "open" anything beyond that which will allow them to continue capitalizing off of the work of scholars.  Is there any reason we should trust them as the honest brokers of a dialogue around incentives and open science?  Just as a simple example, when going to register for this, there is a requirement for creating an account with BrightTALK and an associated user agreement.  I've cut-and-pasted just a small portion (see below).  Is this another attempt to monetize the interactions and information sharing of scholars by mining it and turning it into a product or service?  Or, if not that blatant, is it something they'll be mining for themselves to develop a business strategy allowing them to create new incentive-based products to sell to the academic community (e.g., if journal pubs are no longer the only incentives/rewards, what else can Elsevier make to ensure a continuing revenue stream)?  I know this is a bit cynical.  But that's what happened when I was excited to see this webinar topic announced, but then became disillusioned when I saw it was affiliated with Elsevier. 

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Steve


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Wagner, Caroline

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Jun 29, 2020, 6:13:12 PM6/29/20
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Dear Steve and OSI friends,
I know a number of staff analysts at Elsevier who work hard on scholarly communications in ways that make me trust the larger company. IMHO, Elsevier has been unfairly vilified for being a private, money-making company. I know there are many who do not agree with me on that - but I would attend an Elsevier workshop without worry about a hidden profit motive. 
Caroline

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Sara Rouhi

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Jun 30, 2020, 8:36:52 AM6/30/20
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Hi all - thanks to Glenn for adding me to the group and hello to folks I may not have e-met yet (looks like we won't be meeting in person for much until 2021!)

My two cents on this is if the speakers are good and the content is good, I'm not fussed about Elsevier's role in event. It doesn't take long to see when something is a sales pitch vs. substance. That said, looking at the speakers list...I'm not convinced on this specific one.

Stay healthy and well,

Sara​


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Glenn Hampson

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Jun 30, 2020, 11:18:03 AM6/30/20
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Thanks Sara, Caroline, Steve,

 

I’m just passing along meetings and news of possible interest to the group without passing judgement. If you don’t like the speakers or sponsors, don’t go. Easy peasy. That said, I think the people in this group are uniquely suited and qualified to contribute to this particular topic---hence the notice.

 

And with regard to that “license and content” disclaimer, it just looks to me, Steve, like a permission slip to include your image, voice, and comments in archived versions of the webinar, ads for future webinars, etc. It’s written in legal mumbo-jumbo, but it looks to me like it’s just a “photo release.” And also, kudos to actually reading it. If we actually read half the “user agreements” we routinely sign, the Internet economy would probably grind to a halt.

 

More invites coming later today….

 

Happy last day of June (already?), the mid-point of 2020,

 

Glenn

 

 

Glenn Hampson
Executive Director
Science Communication Institute (SCI)
Program Director
Open Scholarship Initiative (OSI)

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