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Joyce Ogburn
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Alexander Garcia Castro
Wow- wonder how many of those are OA. Certainly that many journals can't be afloat under subscription.
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On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Joyce Ogburn <ogbu...@appstate.edu> wrote:
Says there are 56,726 journals in existenceJoyceJoyce L. OgburnAppalachian State UniversityBoone NC 28608-2026Lifelong learning requires lifelong access
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I understand the importance of OA but as a researcher for me it is more important to know how many of all those journals do care about reproducibility of the research they publish -yes, reproducibility is related to the quality of science and I pay first for quality. how many of those journals have a significant innovative publication model beyond the pdf and simple static html, how many of those journals capture the experimental life cycle, etc. I mean, OA is important but hardly paramount.
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Wow- wonder how many of those are OA. Certainly that many journals can't be afloat under subscription.
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On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Joyce Ogburn <ogbu...@appstate.edu> wrote:
Says there are 56,726 journals in existenceJoyceJoyce L. OgburnAppalachian State UniversityBoone NC 28608-2026Lifelong learning requires lifelong access
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Glenn Hampson
There are about half this number when you filter for refereed and active journals published in English (according to Mark Ware and others). I’m not aware of any other type of count---interesting if true. Considering the rest of the content in this article, though, I don’t know….lots of misinformation, the same tired plot and cast (Elsevier as the villain, SciHub as Robin Hood, copyright as the great injustice), the same solution (access is a problem—the only solution is revolt). Unfortunately, this loud and simplistic kind of narrative commands headlines in today’s world.
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Joyce Ogburn
There are about half this number when you filter for refereed and active journals published in English (according to Mark Ware and others). I’m not aware of any other type of count---interesting if true. Considering the rest of the content in this article, though, I don’t know….lots of misinformation, the same tired plot and cast (Elsevier as the villain, SciHub as Robin Hood, copyright as the great injustice), the same solution (access is a problem—the only solution is revolt). Unfortunately, this loud and simplistic kind of narrative commands headlines in today’s world.
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David Wojick
The concept of a journal is too vague to support that kind of precision in any case. Nor is there any way to find and count them all. I seem to recall someone who claimed to have a list of 35,000 free journals awhile back. No subscription and no APC. Anyone else see that? Then too we have the 10,000 to 20,000 Beall's list journals, many of which probably have some sort of review, but who knows. Then there are the myriad regional non-English journals. This is really all unchartered territory.
Posting a number like that is shaky journalism.
David
At 03:00 PM 5/9/2018, Glenn Hampson wrote:
There are about half this number when you filter for refereed and active journals published in English (according to Mark Ware and others). I’m not aware of any other type of count---interesting if true. Considering the rest of the content in this article, though, I don’t know….lots of misinformation, the same tiired plot and cast (Elsevier as the villain, SciHub as Robin Hood, copyright as the great injustice), the same solution (access is a problem—thhe only solution is revolt). Unfortunately, this loud and simplistic kind of narrative commands headlines in today’s world.
Glenn Hampson
I don’t know Joyce. The short answer might be that most academic journals are published in English (certainly not all). I’m attaching a graphic that’s a little dated (five years, which can be an eternity with these numbers) but still maybe helpful (and still hopefully somewhat accurate!). From the second paragraph: “Some have observed that the rapid growth of publishing in China suggests that Chinese will become the lingua franca of science. Others note that English continues to grow as the primary language of science when measured in terms of the science citation index. In 2000, 96% of the nearly one million documents in this index were in English. When simply calculating the percent of the English language journals appearing in the latest count from Ulrich's, the result is 25,531 out of 30,796, or 83 percent.” But if we’ve been systematically undercounting because of language barriers/bias, then the 30k-ish number we’ve all been batting around is way off.
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Joyce Ogburn
Carlos Henrique de Brito Cruz
Hello David, Glenn, OSI colleagues:
The Science Citation Index grew to be the Web of Science (a service offered by Clarivate Analytics). The Web of Science (WoS) includes:
- Web of Science core collection:
1.1. Science Citation Index Expanded (SCI-EXPANDED) --1945-present
1.2. Social Sciences Citation Index (SSCI) --1956-present
1.3. Arts & Humanities Citation Index (A&HCI) --1975-present
1.4. Emerging Sources Citation Index (ESCI) --2015-present
- Other sources:
2.1. Derwent Innovations Index
2.2. KCI-Korean Journal Database
2.3. Russian Science Citation Index
2.4. SciELO Citation Index
As you see by the names, the collection includes publications from several languages. If you consult all publications for the year 2017, the idiom distribution is shown in the table below.
|
Languages |
records |
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ENGLISH |
5282892 |
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KOREAN |
76054 |
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SPANISH |
50553 |
|
RUSSIAN |
44755 |
|
GERMAN |
25215 |
|
PORTUGUESE |
21792 |
|
FRENCH |
20480 |
|
CHINESE |
8728 |
|
ITALIAN |
5876 |
|
UNSPECIFIED |
2890 |
|
TURKISH |
2851 |
|
POLISH |
1960 |
|
JAPANESE |
1946 |
|
CROATIAN |
1565 |
|
CZECH |
1227 |
|
NORWEGIAN |
1097 |
|
DUTCH |
680 |
|
SLOVAK |
526 |
|
HUNGARIAN |
505 |
|
ARABIC |
395 |
|
SLOVENIAN |
341 |
|
CATALAN |
336 |
|
UKRAINIAN |
286 |
|
SERBIAN |
283 |
|
MALAY |
249 |
|
AFRIKAANS |
230 |
|
SWEDISH |
215 |
|
PERSIAN |
196 |
|
LITHUANIAN |
180 |
|
INDONESIAN |
136 |
|
ROMANIAN |
130 |
|
GREEK |
110 |
|
ICELANDIC |
103 |
|
ESTONIAN |
92 |
|
THAI |
72 |
|
SERBO CROATIAN |
61 |
|
BULGARIAN |
44 |
|
GALICIAN |
36 |
|
LATIN |
20 |
|
DANISH |
16 |
|
FINNISH |
14 |
|
WELSH |
12 |
|
MONGOLIAN |
10 |
|
VIETNAMESE |
5 |
|
LATVIAN |
4 |
|
GEORGIAN |
3 |
|
ALBANIAN |
1 |
|
BENGALI |
1 |
|
HEBREW |
1 |
|
HINDI |
1 |
|
MALAGASY |
1 |
|
SWAHILI |
1 |
If you consider only the Science Citation Index the total number is much smaller (350 thousand, approxim.), but still there are items in several languages.
Best
Brito
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Carlos Henrique de Brito Cruz
Diretor Científico
FAPESP
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David Wojick
Glenn Hampson
Thanks Brito!---so yes, that’s about the same proportion: 95% of 5.5. million records are in English. Can you do a count for publishers while you’re in there? 😊 (and filter for active and refereed)