Adding new repos for KJV and Greek texts

[Ben Dwyer]

On javascripture.org I use open source versions of the KJV and Greek texts that I found online somewhere. I think it makes sense for us to add something like this to the open scriptures GitHub repo, so that it has a lot of good resources for people who want the raw data. I'm happy to take the lead on doing this, but before I do so, if there any reason it hasn't been done before?

[erics...@gmail.com]

Hi Ben,

I'm doing something similar but for iOS/Android. Trying to make the most swift interlinear out there. I think the having the raw data out is great. By the way where did you get your greek and hebrew bible data from javacsripture? If you can get back to me that would be great? I've scoured the internet and so far you're the only one I found with data that has the whole bible Strongly tagged verse by verse!

[ref...@gmx.net]

Can I just say that using and propagating texts you 'found semester's isn't a great move. I am for last 15 years working with sourcing and incorporating bible texts into open source software. The amount of degradation and mess even a few careless transfers and transformations can cause is horrible. There are for many texts good standard places to look. CrossWire maintains the best KJV text out there, others here on openscriptures several Greek and Hebrew texts. All of these have been many times proofread and are actively maintained.

Peter

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[Ben Dwyer]

I agree with Peter that we should try to reuse what is out there as much as possible. However there are some challenges to this. Firstly the format - XML is prevalent, but there's not much at all out there in JSON, which is much preferred when building a JavaScript app. Secondly, its hard to find a Greek text with strongs numbers. I believe mine is from here: https://sourceforge.net/p/zefania-sharp/activity/?page=0&limit=100#5af3128c3241d2372b662a85 or somewhere similar.

There is a project which enables us to convert crosswire modules to JSON (https://github.com/danday74/sword-to-json). However it doesn't work with strongs numbers. I have been working on a fork which will also handle strongs number, which I am happy to share with you if it's helpful.

I'm not sure what the best way is to proceed. Ideally (IMO) Crosswire would also host JSON versions of their texts, and have a Greek version available too. Maybe we can make this happen?

[Robert Rouse]

Tyndale recently released a lot of great data on GitHub: https://github.com/tyndale/STEPBible-Data. It has all the Greek & Hebrew tagged texts and looks decently easy to handle (though I agree we with other saying we should have a JSON source of things like this).

[Tahor SuiJuris Ben]

Hello, I want to be involved in this conversation.  Is there an online chat?

Tahor SuiJuris Ben Berith

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On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 7:36 AM, Robert Rouse <soull...@gmail.com> wrote:

Tyndale recently released a lot of great data on GitHub: https://github.com/tyndale/STEPBible-Data. It has all the Greek & Hebrew tagged texts and looks decently easy to handle (though I agree we with other saying we should have a JSON source of things like this).

[Ben Dwyer]

No online chat, but I guess we could start a slack?

[Peter Passchier]

Why have these most important recources not been shared in a more accessible way..? It seems Christians in the past have tended towards proprietary solutions and formats, which is very sad. Let this be the generation to change this all, and make the word and crucial tools and utilities accessible as openly and freely as possible, so collaboration and access gets easier and more abundant.

Blessings on you all,

Peter

https://gitlab.com/pepa65/thaiworship

[Ben Dwyer]

The code for javascripture is open source, so anyone can access it here: 

https://github.com/javascripture/javascripture

[Tahor SuiJuris Ben]

I need to create a database with both the original languages with English parallel including Strongs #.

I am very hopeful that the data resources may prove a solution.

Thank you Ben, shall view the github link you shared.

My question actually was about a central discussion area, would the Open Scriptures Google groups be an appropriate place to discuss the data?

Tahor SuiJuris Ben Berith

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[Jesse Griffin]

Yes, this is a good place for that discussion Tahor.

The Open Scriptures Hebrew Bible is tagged with Strong's numbers and has most of the forms parsed, you can download it from https://github.com/openscriptures/morphhb/releases .

We'll have another release soon (maybe January time frame) with 100% of the forms parsed.

Thank you,

Jesse Griffin

[Tahor SuiJuris Ben]

Excellent, thank you Jesse.

Tahor SuiJuris Ben Berith

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[Eric S. Wong]

Thank you for all the replies. I'm glad that you guys are active in this work.

I'll take a look at the resources mentioned.

@Peter, I'm not sure what you're saying. But the only source I found was on Ben's opensource javascripture. Other than that you guys mentioned some resources that I'm going to take a look at.

@Ben, yeah if you can share with me the fork that would be great! Thank you for the link to you source. I'm not sure how crosswire's module works but it doesn't necessarily seem too bad if we just cross match strong's words with a Westminster Leningrad Codex for the Hebrew then something like a Codex Sinaiticus for Greek. That way we can have most if not all the words having a strong tag from our algorithm. From there we can cross check from a more accurately done file by human filter. Yeah we can definitely run a script to convert to JSON. I'm literally just using iOS's JavaCore Framework, changing your variable and using your whole file as a massive JSON import into my app lol!

@All - Definitely make a slack, this would make the process a lot smoother. Setup is so fast... Hit us up and I'll join asap!

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[Jesse Griffin]

I'd suggest we use the existing Biblical Humanities Slack group because there are several people already there working on similar things.  There is an #openscriptures channel in that Slack group already.  Send me a direct email with your address if you would like to join.

Thank you,

Jesse Griffin

[Eric S. Wong]

@Ben, Oh so I just took a look at the link you sent me and XML is definitely prevalent. I must've misread but you meant that we convert the XML to JSON. Yeah there's got to be a way!

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[Ben Dwyer]

Yeah it's a good place

[Darrell Smith]

I've pretty much retired from software engineering (i.e. I'm not doing it)  but it should be fairly straight forward to write a perl, php, or even lex/yacc filter to convert from xml to json. The structures are fairly limited sets, unlike the content. PHP has great libraries for dealing with XML (and that was years ago).

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[Peter Passchier]

Loads of options for XML to JSON:

Python: https://pypi.org/project/xml2json/

Node.js: https://www.npmjs.com/package/xml2json

Blessings,

Peter

[Eric S. Wong]

Thanks guys,

I was actually thinking of making a JSON straight from the texts but not from the XML. But then Ben's source file link has all these XML downloads of everything already available in XML! Looks like we got this covered! 

[Ben Dwyer]

Eric the source I linked has them all in json 

[Eric S. Wong]

@Ben, oh I only took a look at this one you posted thus far: https://sourceforge.net/p/zefania-sharp/activity/?page=0&limit=100#53578e72e88f3d143096f6da. Will definitely take a look at the others.

@Peter Passchier, Sorry Peter, I was referring to the other Peter - the ref...@gmx.net person.

[Tahor SuiJuris Ben]

@Eric S. Wong

Check out XML based NoSQL MarkLogic.

Tahor SuiJuris Ben Berith

Yadah Yasha Ahayah

h3034 h3467 h1961

A MANDATORY verbal "confession" in sequence Colossians 3:17 / John 14:6)

http://www.literateaspects.com

Proverbs 15:32

Acts 17:26, 27 / Judges 2:3, 22

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