> So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I can't
> enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score here so
we
> can compare... For the record mine was 5.4...
On the border between "You may want to practice doing things with your left
hand. " and "Have trouble keeping the lint off your black shirts?" sounds
about right to me!
> Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
> are you a whining liberal? :-)
3.2 - "You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American." - which means
I've been quite within my rights to tell you and BFB to f**k off when you
blabber on about Bush, etc :)
>
>"An Mac Tíre Bán..." <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
>news:6qr6j0h2bmu9v746s...@4ax.com...
>
>
>> So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I can't
>> enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score here so
>we
>> can compare... For the record mine was 5.4...
>
>On the border between "You may want to practice doing things with your left
>hand. " and "Have trouble keeping the lint off your black shirts?" sounds
>about right to me!
>
LOL!! ah come on now! This is for entertainment only...
>> Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>> are you a whining liberal? :-)
>
>3.2 - "You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American." - which means
>I've been quite within my rights to tell you and BFB to f**k off when you
>blabber on about Bush, etc :)
>
One of those bloody fence sitters that both the extreme left and right wish
would jump off one way or the other eh? :-)
Thanks for taking the test... 3.2 I can't even get a score that low if I
try I think... You know, I figured you for a moderate (on my test
anyway)... I'm waiting for a few Unionists or their supporters to vote and
I'm waiting to see some of my Nationalist/Republican friends to vote and see
if there really is a noticable left/right gap as well as a
Republican/Unionist divide... It'll be interesting because a lot of Roman
Catholics are quiet conservative... And some Unionists are quite liberal...
I hope more take the test, it will be fun and yet informative (in a light
way, this is not a set in stone thing)... Just to see... Who scores what,
and is that score expected or a shock to all who know the poster who posts
their score...
Reader, please vote:
http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
I should have added, that no visitor to my site is monitered/recorded, and
no results are monitered or recorded, it's purely a javascript that puts out
a result based on your input and unless you post your results here, nobody
will even know you took the test - not even me...
Ray
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Let friends all turn against me!
Let foes say what they will!
For my heart is in my country,
And I love old Ireland still!!!
Email: ray-AT-eirefirst.com
Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Apparently, I'm a liberal airhead. Which might confirm what a number of
people on this ng and others already suspect.
> Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
> are you a whining liberal? :-)
I got whining liberal score of 1.7. Looks like the blackshirt is on its
way to the local Oxfam shop.
Tom
Ah but many a true word spoken in jest! (I actually thought it was pretty
accurate in regard to thee and me)
> >3.2 - "You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American." - which means
> >I've been quite within my rights to tell you and BFB to f**k off when you
> >blabber on about Bush, etc :)
> >
>
> One of those bloody fence sitters that both the extreme left and right
wish
> would jump off one way or the other eh? :-)
So 'true Americans' are fence sitters ?
(At 3.2, it shouldn't be too hard to guess what way I would jump on most
issues :) )
>"An Mac Tíre Bán..." <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
>news:6qr6j0h2bmu9v746s...@4ax.com...
>> Just for a laugh....
Snip
>> The test can be found here:
>> http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
Snip
>Apparently, I'm a liberal airhead. Which might confirm what a number of
>people on this ng and others already suspect.
>
Now you have the proof! LOL!!
>"An Mac Tíre Bán..." wrote ...
>> Just for a laugh....
>> The test can be found here:
>> http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
>
>I'm a liberal airhead....thank gawd.
>Kate(go ahead, laugh now)H :)
>
You wrote (in another post in this thread) that you scored 3.2
How on earth do you score that LOW?
Ray
(serious, even when I try I can't score hardly below 4)
Are you kidding me? How could you score that low? 1.7... Jeez...
I'm waiting for someone to score higher then me!!! Come on there must be
one!!!
Ray
I got 3...You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American.
Not that I'm an American, of course, I'm a Wild Colonial Boy.
WCB
Aye but he committed suicide in a Berlin bunker in 1945! ;-)
Just you wait till I send the tanks to invade your street.
>
>"An Mac Tíre Bán..." <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
>news:dcu6j0pn9k4vjof1j...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:57:19 +0100, "OldWiseMan"
><oldwis...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"An Mac Tíre Bán..." <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
>> >news:6qr6j0h2bmu9v746s...@4ax.com...
>> >On the border between "You may want to practice doing things with your
>left
>> >hand. " and "Have trouble keeping the lint off your black shirts?" sounds
>> >about right to me!
>> >
>>
>> LOL!! ah come on now! This is for entertainment only...
>
>Ah but many a true word spoken in jest! (I actually thought it was pretty
>accurate in regard to thee and me)
>
Me too, but I'm trying to get more people to take the test and if I let on
it's just a laugh, more will take it... or am I persuing the wrong tact...
I can think of four regular posters that are more conservative than me (in
their postings)... None have taken the test so far... I'd love to know...
>
>> >3.2 - "You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American." - which means
>> >I've been quite within my rights to tell you and BFB to f**k off when you
>> >blabber on about Bush, etc :)
>> >
>>
>> One of those bloody fence sitters that both the extreme left and right
>wish
>> would jump off one way or the other eh? :-)
>
>So 'true Americans' are fence sitters ?
>
>(At 3.2, it shouldn't be too hard to guess what way I would jump on most
>issues :) )
>
Hey, I didn't devise the test, I only took out the popups and the (according
to my spybot catcher, an apparent illegal "cookie/dialer", let's just say
the site I took it from wasn't exactly erm... non-partisan...
I got a 2.333333333 no fence straddling here.
>On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:57:19 +0100, "OldWiseMan"
><oldwis...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"An Mac T’re B‡n..." <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
>>news:6qr6j0h2bmu9v746s...@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>> So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I can't
>>> enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score here so
>>we
>>> can compare... For the record mine was 5.4...
>>
>>On the border between "You may want to practice doing things with your left
>>hand. " and "Have trouble keeping the lint off your black shirts?" sounds
>>about right to me!
>>
>>> Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>>> are you a whining liberal? :-)
>>
>>3.2 - "You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American." - which means
>>I've been quite within my rights to tell you and BFB to f**k off when you
>>blabber on about Bush, etc :)
>
>I got 3...You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American.
>
>Not that I'm an American, of course, I'm a Wild Colonial Boy.
>
>WCB
Sorry about the "American"... I thought about altering the text in the
actual test... But then I might not replace it correctly and decided to
leave it stand...
3 eh?
After seeing your score on the "political compass" test of a while ago, that
doesn't surprise me in the least... But, Nik, there is help available! :-)
>"An Mac Tíre Bán..." <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
>news:a607j0lvt1kf7qdkg...@4ax.com...
>> On 30 Aug 2004 20:17:40 +0100, Tom Walsh <wel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>An Mac Tíre Bán writes:
>>>
>>>> Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type
>>>> or
>>>> are you a whining liberal? :-)
>>>
>>> I got whining liberal score of 1.7. Looks like the blackshirt is on its
>>>way to the local Oxfam shop.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>
>> Are you kidding me? How could you score that low? 1.7... Jeez...
>>
>> I'm waiting for someone to score higher then me!!! Come on there must be
>> one!!!
>>
>
>Aye but he committed suicide in a Berlin bunker in 1945! ;-)
>> Ray
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Ray
(I nominate this for the best comeback of the month award!!!)
>Mike wrote:
>>
>> "An Mac Tíre Bán..." <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
>> news:6qr6j0h2bmu9v746s...@4ax.com...
>> > Just for a laugh....
>> >
>> > I found this "fascist" test on a website that had about 2 million pop-ups
>> > and other crap, so I took the basic page, cleaned it up and placed it on a
>> > private part of my website that has no popups and no dialers and fuck
>> > all..
Snip
>> > The test can be found here:
>> > http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
>> >
Snip
>>
>> Apparently, I'm a liberal airhead. Which might confirm what a number of
>> people on this ng and others already suspect.
>
>I got a 2.333333333 no fence straddling here.
Jeez... The scores are getting lower... :-(
I couldn't get 2.3(odd) in a million years unless I lied the whole way
throught the questionaire...
Ray
(still waiting for someone to score higher then 5.3 before I award myself
the Gold medal!! :-) )
OK, I tried imagining that I'd had a really bad day at work, the kids and
the piles were playing up and there were no beers in the fridge. I managed
5.36666...
It's easy if you don't bother reading the questions and poke buttons at
random like I did. I never take online tests seriously.
Hang on... After reviewing my original post, I see that I scored 5.4 and so
I still claim the Fascist Gold Medal (LOL)... To be honest....
Here I take the test pretending to be a godless liberal.... (and it's a
stretch and an effort for me I might add) I scored....
1.5 "You are a whining rotter."
I think I know the liberal mindset pretty well! LOL!!
The thing is, this test can be faked out easily... But if you answer
honestly, as I did (and some others) you'll get a real score...
Ray
>"An Mac Tíre Bán..." wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:43:33 -0400, Cory Bhreckan <CBhr...@maelstrom.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Mike wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "An Mac Tíre Bán..." <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
>> >> news:6qr6j0h2bmu9v746s...@4ax.com...
>> >> > Just for a laugh....
>> >> >
>> >> > I found this "fascist" test on a website that had about 2 million pop-ups
>> >> > and other crap, so I took the basic page, cleaned it up and placed it on a
>> >> > private part of my website that has no popups and no dialers and fuck
>> >> > all..
>> Snip
>>
>> >> > The test can be found here:
>> >> > http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
>> >> >
>> Snip
>>
>> >>
>> >> Apparently, I'm a liberal airhead. Which might confirm what a number of
>> >> people on this ng and others already suspect.
>> >
>> >I got a 2.333333333 no fence straddling here.
>>
>> Jeez... The scores are getting lower... :-(
>>
>> I couldn't get 2.3(odd) in a million years unless I lied the whole way
>> throught the questionaire...
>
>It's easy if you don't bother reading the questions and poke buttons at
>random like I did. I never take online tests seriously.
And what did I say in my very first post about this:
"Just for a laugh...."
This is not a scientific test... It's just a laugh... for a laugh... get
it?
Ray
3.433333333333333333333333333333333333333infinity.
i.e. I'm open minded but not to the point where my brains slop out and go
splat on the floor.
>Just for a laugh....
>
>I found this "fascist" test on a website that had about 2 million pop-ups
>and other crap, so I took the basic page, cleaned it up and placed it on a
>private part of my website that has no popups and no dialers and fuck all..
>
>Fifty years ago, the Authoritarian Personality studies attempted to
>"construct an instrument that would yield an estimate of fascist receptivity
>at the personality level." This online, interactive F Scale presents that
>instrument in its final form.
>
>So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I can't
>enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score here so we
>can compare... For the record mine was 5.4... A crushing disappointment
>LOL!
>
>The test can be found here:
>http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
>
>
>Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>are you a whining liberal? :-)
>
>Ray
>
You are disciplined but tolerant;
I'm a fuckin' cricket umpire what do they expect.
max.it (the orange cage)
Colin Will
Poet in residence, Scotland
> An Mac Tíre Bán... <ra...@iol.ie>
>
>>Just for a laugh....
>>
>>I found this "fascist" test on a website that had about 2 million pop-ups
>>and other crap, so I took the basic page, cleaned it up and placed it on a
>>private part of my website that has no popups and no dialers and fuck all..
>>
>>Fifty years ago, the Authoritarian Personality studies attempted to
>>"construct an instrument that would yield an estimate of fascist receptivity
>>at the personality level." This online, interactive F Scale presents that
>>instrument in its final form.
>>
>>So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I can't
>>enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score here so we
>>can compare... For the record mine was 5.4... A crushing disappointment
>>LOL!
>>
>>The test can be found here:
>>http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
>>
>>
>>Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>>are you a whining liberal? :-)
>>
>>Ray
>>
>
>You are disciplined but tolerant;
>I'm a fuckin' cricket umpire what do they expect.
>
>max.it (the orange cage)
LOL!! What was your point score?
Ray
LOL!! thanks for taking part... when this thread has run it's course, I'll
post a "liberal-------------------Conservative" listing of who responded so
we all know where we are! So far Ray (that's me) is in gold position...
LOL!!!
Jeez, that (I think) is the lowest score recorded so far... But I guess it
all depends on your prespective... LOL!! Thanks for taking the time to take
the test... much appreciated... (That goes for all who were unafraid to
take the test and post their results and doesn't go for those who took the
test and were reluctant (read afraid of peer pressure) to post their
results...
There are a few people I'd love to see take the test, but some haven't so
far... What are they afraid of? Scoring lower then 1.4? LOL!!!
I got 3.23. Conservative but tolerant, something like that, plus ' a true
American'!
3.433333. To be honest, thought it would be higher. So must be
more tolerant of others than give myself credit for. Ya bass!
Ian
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It says I am a typical American... ?
--
/\Cadhan
Ah give yer score... I'm hoping to compile a left=right thing at the
end when ye all can see where ye stand...
Sorry, that should be disciplined not conservative. Must try this when I'm
hammered!
Solly 'bout the "true american" bit... I figured I might get flack on
that... But the test is what it is and I'm not knowledgeable about such
things to dare to alter it because I'd be afraid by doing so I'd ruin what
it really meant...
LOL!! take heart, Ian, Ian I scored higher then I figured I would... go
figure... It's not scientific... just a laugh...
(Hell, it past a few interesting minutes for those who bothered to take the
test, so it can't be all that bad.)
> So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I
can't
> enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score
here so we
> can compare... For the record mine was 5.4... A crushing
disappointment
> LOL!
>
> The test can be found here:
> http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
>
>
> Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as
> you type o rare you a whining liberal? :-)
3.6666666666666665
"You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American." This was
surprising since I'm not an American :)
--
Cheers, Helen
hramsay at cogeco dot ca
LOL ! That's the best laugh I've had in days ! Thanks :)
> 3.6666666666666665
>
> "You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American." This was
> surprising since I'm not an American :)
I'm a "whining rotter" (1.8) and proud of it!
------
Ian O.
Be afraid America..........be very afraid.
KateH :)
Which is why I pushed buttons at random. It's like typing your name on
the command line if TECO (an old, extremely cryptic and nasty text
editor) to see what it did to your code.
You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American.
I don't mind being disciplined but tolerant; but I draw the line at being
called a true American, the only native blood I have is pure Falkirk Bairn.
--
Ecosse Nkosi
Mina bona wena
mina bona lo mombi ena lo shatini
>On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:43:08 +0000 (UTC), max...@tea.time (max.it) wrote:
>
>> An Mac Tíre Bán... <ra...@iol.ie>
>>
>>>Just for a laugh....
>>>
>>>I found this "fascist" test on a website that had about 2 million pop-ups
>>>and other crap, so I took the basic page, cleaned it up and placed it on a
>>>private part of my website that has no popups and no dialers and fuck all..
>>>
>>>Fifty years ago, the Authoritarian Personality studies attempted to
>>>"construct an instrument that would yield an estimate of fascist receptivity
>>>at the personality level." This online, interactive F Scale presents that
>>>instrument in its final form.
>>>
>>>So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I can't
>>>enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score here so we
>>>can compare... For the record mine was 5.4... A crushing disappointment
>>>LOL!
>>>
>>>The test can be found here:
>>>http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>>>are you a whining liberal? :-)
>>>
>>>Ray
>>>
>>
>>You are disciplined but tolerant;
>>I'm a fuckin' cricket umpire what do they expect.
>>
>>max.it (the orange cage)
>
>LOL!! What was your point score?
>
>Ray
I can't remember exactly but it was in the "good american catagory"......shite,
I don't want no americans saying that about me....fuck I'm an antisocial weed smoking
scamming drunk.
What does that say about americans ?
Go to dublinbiz......dot net, my mate does this site and there are some ofthose
county the numbers and amaze your friends fortune tellytype guess the what the fuck
type games. It works, it really works, even if you try your best to fuck it up it still
works.
max.it (the orange cage)
>"An Mac Tíre Bán..." <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
>news:a607j0lvt1kf7qdkg...@4ax.com...
>> On 30 Aug 2004 20:17:40 +0100, Tom Walsh <wel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>An Mac Tíre Bán writes:
>>>
>>>> Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type
>>>> or
>>>> are you a whining liberal? :-)
>>>
>>> I got whining liberal score of 1.7. Looks like the blackshirt is on its
>>>way to the local Oxfam shop.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>
>> Are you kidding me? How could you score that low? 1.7... Jeez...
>>
>> I'm waiting for someone to score higher then me!!! Come on there must be
>> one!!!
>>
>
>Aye but he committed suicide in a Berlin bunker in 1945! ;-)
Obvious to me that you have never been to BA?
--
Lachie.
Exodus 22:19. Quisquis concubuerit cum animali, morte moriatur.
> Just for a laugh....
>
> I found this "fascist" test on a website that had about 2 million
> pop-ups and other crap, so I took the basic page, cleaned it up and
> placed it on a private part of my website that has no popups and no
> dialers and fuck all..
>
> Fifty years ago, the Authoritarian Personality studies attempted to
> "construct an instrument that would yield an estimate of fascist
> receptivity at the personality level." This online, interactive F
> Scale presents that instrument in its final form.
>
> So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I can't
> enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score here
> so we can compare... For the record mine was 5.4... A crushing
> disappointment LOL!
>
> The test can be found here:
> http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
>
>
> Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you
> type or are you a whining liberal? :-)
3.1 Ray.
Where did you steal this test from?
> Just for a laugh....
>
> I found this "fascist" test on a website that had about 2 million
> pop-ups and other crap, so I took the basic page, cleaned it up and
> placed it on a private part of my website that has no popups and no
> dialers and fuck all..
>
> Fifty years ago, the Authoritarian Personality studies attempted to
> "construct an instrument that would yield an estimate of fascist
> receptivity at the personality level." This online, interactive F
> Scale presents that instrument in its final form.
>
> So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I can't
> enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score here
> so we can compare... For the record mine was 5.4... A crushing
> disappointment LOL!
>
> The test can be found here:
> http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
>
> Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you
> type or are you a whining liberal? :-)
I am "disciplined but tolerant, a true American" with a score of 3.86666...
That was interesting. Drawing on my education in Sociology, though, I'd
reword some of the questions and separate others into different parts.
--
The One-and-only Holy MosesT
> I'm a fuckin' cricket umpire what do they expect.
A great talent for remaining upright and keeping your eyelids apart in an
atmosphere suffused with total bordom...
--
The One-and-only Holy Moses™
'Whining rotter', as expected, 1.63.
You've got some weird beliefs and fears if you scored as badly as 5.4
though... Do you really agree with all that shite?
G
Within normal limits; an appropriate score for an American. (The overall
average score for groups tested in the original study is listed in the 1950
publication as 3.84, with men averaging somewhat higher and women somewhat
lower.)
>Just for a laugh....
>
>I found this "fascist" test on a website that had about 2 million pop-ups
>and other crap, so I took the basic page, cleaned it up and placed it on a
>private part of my website that has no popups and no dialers and fuck all..
>
>Fifty years ago, the Authoritarian Personality studies attempted to
>"construct an instrument that would yield an estimate of fascist receptivity
>at the personality level." This online, interactive F Scale presents that
>instrument in its final form.
>
>So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I can't
>enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score here so we
>can compare... For the record mine was 5.4... A crushing disappointment
>LOL!
>
>The test can be found here:
>http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
>
>
>Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>are you a whining liberal? :-)
>
>Ray
It has offered me the job of Fuehrer...
Should I take it?
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Let friends all turn against me!
>Let foes say what they will!
>For my heart is in my country,
>And I love old Ireland still!!!
>Email: ray-AT-eirefirst.com
>Website: http://www.eirefirst.com
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Michilín
4.833333333333
That's by giving him some credit in answering things where he's smart enough
to be moderate like the gay question, and a couple of things that are not
credible to his platform like belief in astrology or getting rid of the
feebleminded. I gave the secret plots answer a strongly agree since he's
paranoid about al qaeda.
"You should practice doing things with your left hand..."
> For the record mine was 5.4... A crushing disappointment
> LOL!
In other words, with one or two exceptions, you believe that
[1] Obedience and respect for authority are the most important virtues
children should learn.
Are they virtues, I wonder? Personally, while it might be handy to have
kids that do what they are told all the time, I'd value their honesty,
decency, curiosity, sense of humour and fun, concern for others, sense of
justice and love of learning way above those two 'virtues'.
[2] A person who has bad manners, habits, and breeding can hardly expect to
get along with decent people.
Breeding? What's that then? Whose good manners and habits and who are the
decent people? All sounds a bit 'us and them' to me. All a bit of the
'themmuns' about it.
[3] If people would talk less and work more, everybody would be better off.
God forbid that the uppity peasants might share some ideas.
[4] The business man and the manufacturer are much more important to society
than the artist and the professor.
How to quantify their importance though? Who'd want a society without
either of them?
[5] Science has its place, but there are many important things that can
never be understood by the human mind.
Says who? Again with the uppity peasants, don't think or question -
believe.
[6] Every person should have complete faith in some supernatural power whose
decisions he obeys without question.
Another one for the peasants. Fuck that!
[7] Young people sometimes get rebellious ideas, but as they grow up they
ought to get over them and settle down.
Ought to? Why? Oh yeah, it's the uppity thing again. Get down!
[8] What this country needs most, more than laws and political programs, is
a few courageous, tireless, devoted leaders in whom the people can put their
faith.
Question nothing, believe everything? Do what you're told. There really is
a pattern here.
[9] No sane, normal, decent person could ever think of hurting a close
friend or relative.
Assuming all your friends and relatives are sane, normal and decent too?
[10] Nobody ever learned anything really important except through suffering.
So put your backs into it, peasants, and take your noses out of those books.
[11] What the youth needs most is strict discipline, rugged determination,
and the will to work and fight for family and country.
Peasants and soldiers, doing what they are told.
[12] An insult to our honor should always be punished.
I don't even know what that means, except that it's egging people on to
fight for no good reason.
[13] Sex crimes, such as rape and attacks on children, deserve more than
mere imprisonment; such criminals ought to be publicly whipped, or worse.
Could be useful to keep an eye on those that turn up to see it happen, what
kind of perverts would actually want to see the reality of a flogging, as in
that Christ film?
[14] There is hardly anything lower than a person who does not feel a great
love, gratitude, and respect for his parents.
Nothing lower? Despite everything? Hardly, considering what many people
have suffered at the hands of their parents.
[15] Most of our social problems would be solved if we could somehow get rid
of the immoral, crooked, and feebleminded people.
Somehow got rid of? You're a gas man, Ray if you agreed with this one!
[16] Homosexuals are hardly better than criminals and ought to be severely
punished.
Gays ought to be severely punished? Hopefully this is where you lost your
points?
[17] When a person has a problem or worry, it is best for him not to think
about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things.
Repress, sublimate, work, obey!
[18] Nowadays more and more people are prying into matters that should
remain personal and private.
Back to uppity peasants again! Don't ask questions - follow orders!
[19] Some people are born with an urge to jump from high places.
You can't fight fate, so do as you're told! Accept, acquiese, believe,
obey!
[20] People can be divided into two distinct classes: the weak and the
strong.
A man or a mouse and nothing in between? Absurd.
[21] Some day it will probably be shown that astrology can explain a lot of
things.
Of course it will, but anybody can explain things, the question is though
are they talking shite when they do?
[22] Wars and social troubles may someday be ended by an earthquake or flood
that will destroy the whole world.
One earthquake? One flood? Sounds more like the start of some social
troubles.
[23] No weakness or difficulty can hold us back if we have enough will
power.
Tell that to Wile E. Coyote.
[24] It is best to use some prewar authorities in Germany to keep order and
prevent chaos.
[You'll have to pretend it is 1946 when you answer this one.]
Seeing as they made such a good job of keeping order and preventing chaos
from 1939-1945?
[25] Most people don't realize how much our lives are controlled by plots
hatched in secret places.
If they are secret then how can anyone know anyway, either way?
[26] Human nature being what it is, there will always be war and conflict.
Wars and conficts are caused by a tiny minority of people, most normal
people wouldn't dream of starting wars, they just get dragged into them by
the sort of concepts revealed in these questions.
[27] Familiarity breeds contempt.
Tell that to your wife!
[28] Nowadays when so many different kinds of people move around and mix
together so much, a person has to protect himself especially carefully
against catching an infection or disease from them.
Another one of them 'dirty themmuns' questions. It's always somebody else
who's the one moving around, or who has the disease, never us. Dirty
foreigners!
[29] The wild sex life of the old Greeks and Romans was tame compared to
some of the goings-on in this country, even in places where people might
least expect it.
Read all about it!
[30] The true American way of life is disappearing so fast that force may be
necessary to preserve it.
Conform and obey - or else?
G
> The test can be found here:
> http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
3.2333333333333334
Within normal limits; an appropriate score for an American. (The overall
average score for groups tested in the original study is listed in the 1950
publication as 3.84, with men averaging somewhat higher and women somewhat
lower.)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, an appropriate score for an ammerican must
be bad :P
'Fascist receptivity', or in other words, just how gullible are you? How
easily will you swallow the Big Lie? Can't tell shite from shinola unless
you're told?
> So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I can't
> enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score here so
we
> can compare... For the record mine was 5.4... A crushing disappointment
> LOL!
No surprise, hook line and sinker...
G
I do keep encouraging you to emigrate.
--
Saint Séimí mac Liam
Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve
Prophet of The Great Tagger
Canonized December '99
> You've got some weird beliefs and fears if you scored as badly as
5.4
> though... Do you really agree with all that shite?
>
>
Says the man who scored 1.63. GBG
Don't you find it interesting that what is called fascism in modern times
were the very "values" that spread civilization? After reading that, I
found that those very opinions were shared by the Roman Empire, the British
Empire, and just about every other empire. Difference is, the fascists
tried to turn already civilized nations into parts of their empire with a
backslide into values that are only good for rationalizing colonialism. And
you may also notice that spread of colonial stability sometimes required
wiping out a whole upstart ethnicity.
The fascism of Rome and England spread stability through tribal chaos, it's
true, but it's a bit old fashioned. There has to be a new type of ideology
that works for already stable countries that have graduated colonialism and
it's called democracy.
Problem is, a real democracy cannot forcibly spread democracy by
colonialism. Then they become imperialistic fascists. and the people whose
puppet governments we set up ultimately do not respect themselves since they
did not come up with the brilliant idea of democracy themselves, and create
new governments, usually military dictatorships or sharia under theocrats.
What a pickle for America. Why don't we learn? If it werent' for oil, we
could leave history to duke it out for itself in these other countries and
learn their lessons on their own.
>On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:57:19 +0100, "OldWiseMan" <oldwis...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"An Mac Tíre Bán..." <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
>>news:6qr6j0h2bmu9v746s...@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>> So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I can't
>>> enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score here so
>>we
>>> can compare... For the record mine was 5.4...
>>
>>On the border between "You may want to practice doing things with your left
>>hand. " and "Have trouble keeping the lint off your black shirts?" sounds
>>about right to me!
>>
>
>LOL!! ah come on now! This is for entertainment only...
>
>>> Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>>> are you a whining liberal? :-)
>>
>>3.2 - "You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American." - which means
>>I've been quite within my rights to tell you and BFB to f**k off when you
>>blabber on about Bush, etc :)
>>
>
>One of those bloody fence sitters that both the extreme left and right wish
>would jump off one way or the other eh? :-)
>
>Thanks for taking the test... 3.2 I can't even get a score that low if I
>try I think... You know, I figured you for a moderate (on my test
>anyway)... I'm waiting for a few Unionists or their supporters to vote and
>I'm waiting to see some of my Nationalist/Republican friends to vote and see
>if there really is a noticable left/right gap as well as a
>Republican/Unionist divide... It'll be interesting because a lot of Roman
>Catholics are quiet conservative... And some Unionists are quite liberal...
>
>I hope more take the test, it will be fun and yet informative (in a light
>way, this is not a set in stone thing)... Just to see... Who scores what,
>and is that score expected or a shock to all who know the poster who posts
>their score...
>
>Reader, please vote:
>http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
>
>I should have added, that no visitor to my site is monitered/recorded, and
>no results are monitered or recorded, it's purely a javascript that puts out
>a result based on your input and unless you post your results here, nobody
>will even know you took the test - not even me...
>
>Ray
Gee Ray, your post on fascism is so timely. Who would have known?
Subpoena Seeks Records About Delegate Lists on Web
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/30/politics/campaign/30delegates.html
username: freenyt password: freenyt
The Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation and is
demanding records regarding
Internet postings by critics of the Bush administration that list the
names of Republican delegates
and urge protesters to give them an unwelcome reception in New York
City.
Federal prosecutors said in a grand jury subpoena that the information
was needed as part of an
investigation into possible voter intimidation. Protesters and civil
rights advocates argued that the
Web postings were legitimate political dissent, not threats or
intimidation.
Butterfly
> I am "disciplined but tolerant, a true American" with a score of 3.86666...
> That was interesting. Drawing on my education in Sociology, though, I'd
> reword some of the questions and separate others into different parts.
I thought some of the questions were 'loaded' and I did not like any of
the answers, so I took the least offensive to me.
Greyrover
I for one have never called you or the president a fascist - raving loonies
maybe but never a fascist.
However, you do have fascist tendancies just as I have pinko commie ones.
Tom
> Within normal limits; an appropriate score for an American. (The overall
> average score for groups tested in the original study is listed in the
1950
> publication as 3.84, with men averaging somewhat higher and women somewhat
> lower.)
> >
Surely the world has moved on since 1950, with a greater tolerance of a
range of behaviour though.
2.7666666666 for me.
Neb
>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 07:44:20 +1200, WCB <repub...@email.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:57:19 +0100, "OldWiseMan"
>><oldwis...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"An Mac T’re B‡n..." <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
>>>news:6qr6j0h2bmu9v746s...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>> So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy! Only condition (which I can't
>>>> enforce, but would request is that you post your resultant score here so
>>>we
>>>> can compare... For the record mine was 5.4...
>>>
>>>On the border between "You may want to practice doing things with your left
>>>hand. " and "Have trouble keeping the lint off your black shirts?" sounds
>>>about right to me!
>>>
>>>> Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>>>> are you a whining liberal? :-)
>>>
>>>3.2 - "You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American." - which means
>>>I've been quite within my rights to tell you and BFB to f**k off when you
>>>blabber on about Bush, etc :)
>>
>>I got 3...You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American.
>>
>>Not that I'm an American, of course, I'm a Wild Colonial Boy.
>>
>>WCB
>
>Sorry about the "American"... I thought about altering the text in the
>actual test... But then I might not replace it correctly and decided to
>leave it stand...
>
>3 eh?
Yeah, and I'm proud of it.
>After seeing your score on the "political compass" test of a while ago, that
>doesn't surprise me in the least... But, Nik, there is help available! :-)
<laughter> I don't want any...
WCB
> LOL!! thanks for taking part... when this thread has run it's course, I'll
> post a "liberal-------------------Conservative" listing of who responded so
> we all know where we are!
The trouble is that you can be 'liberal' on some issues and 'conservative'
on others. The Political Compass (http://www.politicalcompass.org/) uses
a 2-D grid to plot people's political leanings, with economic issues
on one axis and social issues on the other. You would probably be in
the Authoritarian Right quadrant with Dubya.
Tom
Essential Features of the Authoritiarian Personality
1. Excessive conformity
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
2. Submissiveness to Authority
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So what do you lot go and do?
You do what you're told. That's what!
You all take the test!
There was no need to go any further and add up your scores.
You're All Doomed !
How do up think Hitler got started, other than by standing
around on street corners in Munich, handing out questionannaires?
______________________________________________________________________
1. What do you think is a good name for the leader of the German People ?
a) Adolf Shickelgruber b) Adolf Hitler c) Adolf Silly
2. What's the best colour for shirts to be worn by Storm Troopers ?
a) Black b) Brown c) Pink
3. Which of these would be most suit the leader of the German People ?
a) Green Mohican b) Pierced Eyebrows c) Small Moustache
4. What do you think is the best material for Gestapo Overcoats ?
a) Blue Velvet b) Pink Lace c) Black Leather
Please fill in your name and address and put your completed questionnaires
in the box
__________________________________________________________________________
Anyway its too late now for all of those of you who filled in the
questionnaire.
Ray now knows who he can rely on, to follow his instructions when
the time comes.
Claims to have only been obeying orders simply won't wash I'm afraid.
The Roll of Shame
I won't even bother as you know who you are, and I'd miss
the ones I've killfiled anyway.
michael adams
...
3.8888888888888888888
*#8-)
--
/\Cadhan
I not given up on that thought...
>
--
/\Cadhan
It's that tee-totalling what's done you in.
>
>"An Mac Tíre Bán..." <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
>news:6qr6j0h2bmu9v746s...@4ax.com...
>>
>> Fifty years ago, the Authoritarian Personality studies attempted to
>> "construct an instrument that would yield an estimate of fascist
>> receptivity at the personality level." This online, interactive F
>> Scale presents that instrument in its final form.
>>
>> So take the F Scale now --- and enjoy!
>
>
Snip
>
>Anyway its too late now for all of those of you who filled in the
>questionnaire.
>
>Ray now knows who he can rely on, to follow his instructions when
>the time comes.
>
>Claims to have only been obeying orders simply won't wash I'm afraid.
>
>The Roll of Shame
>
>I won't even bother as you know who you are, and I'd miss
>the ones I've killfiled anyway.
>
>
>
>michael adams
>
>
Jesus, Michael, you really need to double the tinfoil on that hat you must
wear all the time... It's obvious the rays are getting through and making
you more paranoid then ever...
Anyway, to the more rational readers: I'm still keeping track of who's
reporting in with their score... I'll leave it a few more days to allow a
few others to vote and then I'll post a complete list of results going from
the looney tune lefties rigut up to the "I can't get my right arm to stay
down" Fascists... :-)
Ray
--
I gave up the drink and now I've morphed into a liberal airhead?
I shudder to think what might happen should I give up sex.
>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:48:09 GMT, An Mac Tíre Bán... <rayh.@iol.ie>
>wrote:
>
Snip
>
>Drooling idiot.
>
>Michilín
I know you are but what am I?
So far, everyone that posted results is left of me... :-( I'm beginning
to guess that those near my score or higher are too crafty to post them but
secure in the knowledge that their black shirt is ever ready should it be
needed... :-)
I'm more a Blueshirt then a Blackshirt... LOL!!!!!
An appropriate defense for Caesar and Elizabeth I perhaps, but its failure
in the face of organized democracy has rendered it useless. The only
defense for the Third Reich on the side of good was the Autobahn road
system.
And they made the trains run on time! :-)
Ray
(or was that the busses?)
Wasn't that Mussolini?
>
>"An Mac Tíre Bán..." <rayh.@iol.ie> wrote in message
>news:qkc9j0dq7m9al4it8...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:51:31 GMT, "alliekatt" <pogm...@myarse.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Never anonymous Bud" <new...@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
>>>news:rc18j0hbddc5tnkvd...@4ax.com...
>>>> FALSE prophecies from the archives, "alliekatt" <pogm...@myarse.com>
>>>> on
>>>Tue, 31 Aug 2004 02:08:59 GMT spoke:
>>>>
>>>> >Don't you find it interesting that what is called fascism in modern
>>>> >times
>>>> >were the very "values" that spread civilization?
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't that one of the Nazi defenses in Nuremberg?
>>>
>>>An appropriate defense for Caesar and Elizabeth I perhaps, but its failure
>>>in the face of organized democracy has rendered it useless. The only
>>>defense for the Third Reich on the side of good was the Autobahn road
>>>system.
>>>
>>
>> And they made the trains run on time! :-)
>>
>> Ray
>> (or was that the busses?)
>Wasn't that Mussolini?
>
Beats me! oo-er... Shouldn't say that, that mitchelin man may take it the
wrong way... or-er missus (again) :-)
Ray
>Just for a laugh....
>The test can be found here:
>http://www.eirefirst.com/fascist.html
>Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>are you a whining liberal? :-)
2.46666666 - liberal airhead
(I think I let myself down with my attitude to superstition and
authority)
David H
--
abend
>Scríobh An Mac Tíre Bán... <ra...@iol.ie>:
>>Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>>are you a whining liberal? :-)
>1.23
>Call Homeland Security quick Ray
No point - you need a score of atleast 5.4 before
you can join Al Quaida, so you're in the clear.
David H
--
abend
OUCH! Come on... I posted an extreme score "for a laugh" which was on the
top of my very first post about this poll... Don't take it so damn serious,
it's not scientific, and if you take it a few times you can figure out how
to fake it so you come off as a bleeding heart liberal or a Black Shirt
wannabe... I posted this thing for a laugh, not for science or to be
serious... So take it as such...
Thanks for voting (taking part/whatever)... You might have missed my post
saying I'm going to give it a few more days and then post the results of all
who contributed and where they stand on the "fascist" scale from left to
right...
I used to believe that but I was told I was wrong. The trains did not
run on time, people were merely told that the trains ran on time and
were too afraid to disagree.
>
>
--
/\Cadhan
>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:00:59 GMT, swe...@btinternet.com (David H) wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:53:22 +0100, Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
>>
>>>Scríobh An Mac Tíre Bán... <ra...@iol.ie>:
>>>>Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>>>>are you a whining liberal? :-)
>>
>>>1.23
>>
>>>Call Homeland Security quick Ray
>>
>>No point - you need a score of atleast 5.4 before
>>you can join Al Quaida, so you're in the clear.
>>
>OUCH! Come on... I posted an extreme score "for a laugh" which was on the
>top of my very first post about this poll... Don't take it so damn serious,
Now who is taking it seriously?
Don't you think Al Quaida members would have a high score on
the test?
In general, for people who score highly, loyalties are an
accident of birth...
David H
--
abend
>In message <ch2jjq$rsp$1...@sparta.btinternet.com>, Mike
><thedevil...@hotmail.com> writes
>>
>>"An Mac Tíre Bán..." <rayh.@iol.ie> wrote in message
>>news:qkc9j0dq7m9al4it8...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:51:31 GMT, "alliekatt" <pogm...@myarse.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Never anonymous Bud" <new...@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:rc18j0hbddc5tnkvd...@4ax.com...
>>>>> FALSE prophecies from the archives, "alliekatt" <pogm...@myarse.com>
>>>>> on
>>>>Tue, 31 Aug 2004 02:08:59 GMT spoke:
>>>>>
>>>>> >Don't you find it interesting that what is called fascism in modern
>>>>> >times
>>>>> >were the very "values" that spread civilization?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't that one of the Nazi defenses in Nuremberg?
>>>>
>>>>An appropriate defense for Caesar and Elizabeth I perhaps, but its failure
>>>>in the face of organized democracy has rendered it useless. The only
>>>>defense for the Third Reich on the side of good was the Autobahn road
>>>>system.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And they made the trains run on time! :-)
>>>
>>> Ray
>>> (or was that the busses?)
>>Wasn't that Mussolini?
>
>I used to believe that but I was told I was wrong. The trains did not
>run on time, people were merely told that the trains ran on time and
>were too afraid to disagree.
>>
>>
LOL! Until 1943 that is...
Ray
With scores like that, I'll soon be inundated with pleas from the Scots for
my quick return!
I agree with another poster that said the questions were loaded.
>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:14:55 GMT, An Mac Tíre Bán... <rayh.@iol.ie>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:00:59 GMT, swe...@btinternet.com (David H) wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:53:22 +0100, Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Scríobh An Mac Tíre Bán... <ra...@iol.ie>:
>>>>>Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>>>>>are you a whining liberal? :-)
>>>
>>>>1.23
>>>
>>>>Call Homeland Security quick Ray
>>>
>>>No point - you need a score of atleast 5.4 before
>>>you can join Al Quaida, so you're in the clear.
>>>
>>OUCH! Come on... I posted an extreme score "for a laugh" which was on the
>>top of my very first post about this poll... Don't take it so damn serious,
>
>Now who is taking it seriously?
>
>Don't you think Al Quaida members would have a high score on
>the test?
>
I've no idea, I dont' know any al0quada to ask...
>In general, for people who score highly, loyalties are an
>accident of birth...
>
>David H
So patriotism and love of country and culture is just an accident of birth
is it?
>
>"An Mac Tíre Bán..." <rayh.@iol.ie> wrote in message
>news:ej99j0djpg4obr0go...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:18:53 GMT, "Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >2.6
>> >That makes me a liberal airhead.
>> >Me?
>> >Show a little compassion and they call you a liberal airhead.
>> >Go figure.
>> >
>>
>> So far, everyone that posted results is left of me... :-( I'm
>beginning
>> to guess that those near my score or higher are too crafty to post them
>but
>> secure in the knowledge that their black shirt is ever ready should it be
>> needed... :-)
>>
>> I'm more a Blueshirt then a Blackshirt... LOL!!!!!
>
>
>With scores like that, I'll soon be inundated with pleas from the Scots for
>my quick return!
>I agree with another poster that said the questions were loaded.
>
I know they are... But I couldn't alter them without ruining the thing...
All I did was take it and present it without banners and other crap and have
a laugh... I've had this thing (the page) for months and wondered on the
wisdom of posting it at all... But in the end... I hoped that people would
take it in the humor and way it was presented... And most did, a few didn't
But I don't care about them...
Now, no matter your score, no leaving our group to go back to those scots...
They'll only let on to accept you until their knives are sharpened and your
back is turned again... Remember, here on SCI, you'll never be hurt by your
real friends...
>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:49:40 GMT, swe...@btinternet.com (David H) wrote:
>>In general, for people who score highly, loyalties are an
>>accident of birth...
>So patriotism and love of country and culture is just an accident of birth
>is it?
Yes. Just think - you could just as easily be a French
patriot, if you were born to a French family. Your
website would be subtly different, with a different set
of enthusiasms and resentments, but you would be the
same sort of person as you are now.
David H
--
abend
Well... I can't disagree with anything you wrote above...
I thought you were having at dig at patriotism in and of itself...
Yes, if I were born British, French or Italian, or whatever... If I still
had the nationalistic feelings I do now (and all my life), I'd have
britainfirst.com or frenchfirst.com or Italiafirst.com... And infact I
respect nationalists from all three (and all non communist) countries...
The point is to love the country you were born into, the country your
parents and grandparents were born into... Respect history and culture and
try to do what you can to preserve it... regardless of that country.
>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:49:40 GMT, swe...@btinternet.com (David H) wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:14:55 GMT, An Mac Tíre Bán... <rayh.@iol.ie>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:00:59 GMT, swe...@btinternet.com (David H) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:53:22 +0100, Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Scríobh An Mac Tíre Bán... <ra...@iol.ie>:
>>>>>>Well, what was your score? Are you ironing your blackshirt as you type or
>>>>>>are you a whining liberal? :-)
>>>>
>>>>>1.23
>>>>
>>>>>Call Homeland Security quick Ray
>>>>
>>>>No point - you need a score of atleast 5.4 before
>>>>you can join Al Quaida, so you're in the clear.
>>>>
>>>OUCH! Come on... I posted an extreme score "for a laugh" which was on the
>>>top of my very first post about this poll... Don't take it so damn serious,
>>
>>Now who is taking it seriously?
>>
>>Don't you think Al Quaida members would have a high score on
>>the test?
>>
>I've no idea, I dont' know any al0quada to ask...
>
>>In general, for people who score highly, loyalties are an
>>accident of birth...
>>
>>David H
>
>So patriotism and love of country and culture is just an accident of birth
>is it?
Think about it man, if you were Scottish you would not have to worry
about winning the Eurovision song contest, Kimberley biscuits, Tato
crisps or Bertie Ahearn.
--
Llachie.
Hezakiah 14:10 - Na chwennych dafad dy gymydog, oblegid myfi yr Arglwydd dy
Dduw, wyf Dduw eiddigus...
.
Don't communist countries have patriots too? Doesn't the phrase 'Great
Patriotic War' ring any bells?
> The point is to love the country you were born into, the country your
> parents and grandparents were born into...
Can get awkward these days when the above sentence includes 3 or more
different countries.
Respect history and culture and
> try to do what you can to preserve it... regardless of that country.
Kurt Vonnegut suggested that a problem with the USA is that they have a hard
time understanding that somebody can be from somewhere other than the USA -
and still be proud of it.
G
I am apparently a liberal air head! mmmm..... sounds about right =)
Fealsamh
A true statement, Ray, and one I appreciate!
But the SCS folks, for the most part, are very fine people indeed.
It's just that "Colonel" Hamish MacTosser has corrupted a few beyond
redemption.
And I was losing my temper with them more often than was wise.
I had forgotten the mantra of Usenet.
"Ease up, man. It's only the Internet".
4.76666, I'm onto you and coming to get you!