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nobody

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Oct 9, 2012, 5:43:24 PM10/9/12
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When on a web page I often want to shar it with others. Up until this
version there was an option in the r-click menu to "send link" which
worked well for this behavior. It is gone in this version. One can
still go to the file menu and "email link" but I see no way to do if
from the r-click menu. Am I missing something? I wonder why it was
removed...

Thai Guy

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Oct 9, 2012, 6:06:41 PM10/9/12
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--->
I wonder also. Can I bring it back by changing something in the config
file? I use it at least twice a day to send links to friends.

Cal Tinson

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Oct 9, 2012, 7:45:44 PM10/9/12
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Ditto - strange change.

At least there's File/Email Link - don't know whether that was there
before or not.

PS: why did you remove the attribution to the OP?
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Thai Guy

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Oct 9, 2012, 8:36:22 PM10/9/12
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What? I posted directly under the OP.

WaltS

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Oct 9, 2012, 9:00:34 PM10/9/12
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Removed from the context menu, and replaced by Email link in the file menu.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239307

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Thai Guy

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Oct 9, 2012, 9:05:47 PM10/9/12
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> On 10/09/2012 05:43 PM, nobody wrote:
>> When on a web page I often want to shar it with others. Up until
>> this version there was an option in the r-click menu to "send link"
>> which worked well for this behavior. It is gone in this version.
>> One can still go to the file menu and "email link" but I see no way
>> to do if from the r-click menu. Am I missing something? I wonder
>> why it was removed...
>>
>
> Removed from the context menu, and replaced by Email link in the file
> menu.
>
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239307
>

Interesting link. So, for all the hundreds of thousands of users of FF,
four people voted for it and it became the law. Sounds about right.

WaltS

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Oct 9, 2012, 9:30:16 PM10/9/12
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Four people voted for it when?. Original bug was posted on 2004-03-31.

There is a gap between comment 8 posted on 2007-09-11,

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239307#c8

and comment 9 posted on 2012-06-12 when the bug was assigned to Jared Wein,

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239307#c9

Who says they don't work on old bugs.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Oct 9, 2012, 9:51:34 PM10/9/12
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What he means is your penchant for always using "--->" instead of using a
real attribute such as "On 10/9/2012, nobody said". See above, where you
did it again. I've often wondered why you do that. Why don't you fix your
newsreader so it correctly posts an attribute?

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Thai Guy

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Oct 9, 2012, 10:01:30 PM10/9/12
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That really bothers you, eh?

WaltS

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Oct 9, 2012, 10:18:25 PM10/9/12
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Bothers a lot of us.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Oct 9, 2012, 10:29:26 PM10/9/12
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Thai Guy wrote:

> --->
>> Thai Guy wrote:
>>> --->
>>>> PS: why did you remove the attribution to the OP?
>>>
>>> What? I posted directly under the OP.
>>
>> What he means is your penchant for always using "--->" instead of using
>> a real attribute such as "On 10/9/2012, nobody said". See above, where
>> you did it again. I've often wondered why you do that. Why don't you
>> fix your newsreader so it correctly posts an attribute?
>
> That really bothers you, eh?

Yes, because I know you could fix in in seconds. Why do you want to upset
the flow of the threads you participate in?

Thai Guy

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Oct 9, 2012, 10:47:13 PM10/9/12
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Please define "a lot of us". Seems like only two to me. And just why
is this more important than the message below it? Come on, grow up.

nobody

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Oct 10, 2012, 12:56:32 AM10/10/12
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15.01 and earlier had File/Send Link as well as the r-click.

nobody

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Oct 10, 2012, 1:07:28 AM10/10/12
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On 10/9/2012 8:00 PM, WaltS wrote:
> On 10/09/2012 05:43 PM, nobody wrote:
>> When on a web page I often want to shar it with others. Up until this
>> version there was an option in the r-click menu to "send link" which
>> worked well for this behavior. It is gone in this version. One can
>> still go to the file menu and "email link" but I see no way to do if
>> from the r-click menu. Am I missing something? I wonder why it was
>> removed...
>>
>
> Removed from the context menu, and replaced by Email link in the file menu.
>
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239307
>

We have a winner. That is about the stupidest "improvement" to the
browser I have ever seen, and I've been here longer than most.

Chris Ilias

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Oct 10, 2012, 3:07:04 AM10/10/12
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On 12-10-09 9:05 PM, Thai Guy wrote:
> --->
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239307
>>
>
> Interesting link. So, for all the hundreds of thousands of users of FF,

450 million :)

> four people voted for it and it became the law. Sounds about right.

* what gets fixed is not based on number of votes
* it didn't become "the law" (although I'm not sure what you mean by
"the law")

It's an old bug, and the label changed from "Send link" to "Email link",
so the developer probably thought he would fix the old bug while
relabelling the left over instances.

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Chris Ilias

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Oct 10, 2012, 3:08:05 AM10/10/12
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On 12-10-09 10:47 PM, Thai Guy wrote:
> Please define "a lot of us". Seems like only two to me. And just why
> is this more important than the message below it? Come on, grow up.

Guys, please take this discussion somewhere else, and keep the
discussion in here focused on helping people use Firefox.

Ron Hunter

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Oct 10, 2012, 3:36:29 AM10/10/12
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Well, of course, THEY never used it, so it was redundant, right?

HarveyG

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Oct 10, 2012, 6:50:54 AM10/10/12
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Ditto. Is it gone by mistake or intentional (forever)?

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Herb

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Oct 10, 2012, 7:12:57 AM10/10/12
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FWIW, I liked the "Send Link" context menu option, but it didn't work
reliably for me, i.e. on some web pages I had to try different areas of
the web page for the option to show up in the context menu. Never got to
the bottom of why this was the case. Presumably others experienced this too?

I hadn't really been aware of the option im the File menu.

I use this functionality on a regular basis, and I dare say I'll quickly
get used to the Alt+F, followed by E shortcut, although it does seem a
shame for "Send Link" to have been removed from the context menu.
Perhaps it will be re-introduced again in due course?

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Chris Ilias

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Oct 10, 2012, 6:17:20 PM10/10/12
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Intentional.

Ron Hunter

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Oct 10, 2012, 6:17:53 PM10/10/12
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I always used the 'send link' in the File menu, so I didn't notice it
was gone from the context menu until someone else mentioned it.
Everyone uses FF a bit differently. The context menus tend to get
rather long, so they were trying to eliminate redundancy.

erich...@yahoo.co.uk

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Oct 10, 2012, 10:26:11 PM10/10/12
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I wonder why the developers think they know how to use firefox best. Why not give the user the option to set up the context menu the way the like it?
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goodwin

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Oct 11, 2012, 1:52:56 AM10/11/12
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On 10/09/2012 07:01 PM, Thai Guy wrote:

> That really bothers you, eh?

who are you talking to?

Chris Ilias

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Oct 11, 2012, 2:59:41 AM10/11/12
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On 12-10-10 10:26 PM, erich...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> I wonder why the developers think they know how to use firefox best. Why not give the user the option to set up the context menu the way the like it?

People who want everything to be an option are more suited for SeaMonkey
<http://www.seamonkey-project.org/>.

Firefox is meant to be more streamlined, not overwhelming users. Extreme
customization is left to extensions. For more about extensions, see
<http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/find-and-install-add-ons-add-features-to-firefox>.

If you read the bug report, you'll see that there were attempts to get
data and feedback.

westca...@gmail.com

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Oct 14, 2012, 9:09:25 AM10/14/12
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But that only sends the page link. I see no way to send a link within a page, light the right-click context menu would do.

Doc

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Oct 15, 2012, 9:22:28 AM10/15/12
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On 10/10/2012 11:59 PM, Chris Ilias typed this:
Well, that rots. I used the right click so regularly.

THIS is a definite reduction in functionality and should be brought
back. Who wants to scroll/move away from the interface to use an old
fashioned drop down menu when a quick right click and select is (or was)
available! A purely dumb change in the true sense of 'dumb!'

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chri...@gmail.com

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Oct 16, 2012, 2:25:53 AM10/16/12
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On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:40:06 AM UTC-5, Sailfish wrote:
> My bloviated meandering follows what Herb graced us with on 10/10/2012
>
> 4:12 AM:
> That was especially apparent when a page had other non-html content on
>
> it like Flash or PDF. The removal from the content pane fixed that
>
> inconsistency as well as slimmed the ever-growing items from the context
>
> menu while still allowing the user to easily perform the function with
>
> the same amount of clicks.
>
>
>
> It was a mino but good change, imo.
>
>
>
> followup mozilla.general
>
>
>
>
>
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How do you propose sending someone a link from a page in the same number of clicks? You used to be able to just:
1) Right-click -> Send Link

You now have to:
1) Right-click -> Copy Link Location
2) Go to File -> Email Link...

It ADDED another step. It is not the same. You now overwrite anything you had in the clipboard just to send a link, in 2 steps, as opposed to sending it with one step and not having your clipboard touched.

I am not trying to blame you, just highlighting the issue with this. It was changed to make things 'easier', yet it made more steps and interferes with another function (the clipboard) to send a link.

Herb

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Oct 16, 2012, 5:06:13 AM10/16/12
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I can recommend the Alt+F, followed by E shortcut.

No need to scroll/move away from the interface.

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Herb

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Oct 16, 2012, 5:08:00 AM10/16/12
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On 16.10.2012 07:25 UK Time, chri...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> How do you propose sending someone a link from a page in the same number of clicks? You used to be able to just:
> 1) Right-click -> Send Link
>
> You now have to:
> 1) Right-click -> Copy Link Location
> 2) Go to File -> Email Link...

Not necessarily.

I use the shortcut Alt+F, followed by E.

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Chris Ilias

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Oct 16, 2012, 10:59:50 AM10/16/12
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On 12-10-15 9:22 AM, Doc wrote:
> Well, that rots. I used the right click so regularly.
>
> THIS is a definite reduction in functionality and should be brought
> back. Who wants to scroll/move away from the interface to use an old
> fashioned drop down menu when a quick right click and select is (or was)
> available! A purely dumb change in the true sense of 'dumb!'

This really isn't the place to voice opinions about development. That's
what the "Submit Feedback" item in the Help menu is for. If you'd like
to get into an actual discussion about Firefox development, that's what
the mozilla.dev.apps.firefox newsgroup is for. And design-specific
issues can be discussed in mozilla.dev.usability.

Sailfish

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Oct 16, 2012, 2:40:30 PM10/16/12
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My bloviated meandering follows what chri...@gmail.com graced us with
on 10/15/2012 11:25 PM:
> How do you propose sending someone a link from a page in the same number of clicks? You used to be able to just:
> 1) Right-click -> Send Link
>
> You now have to:
> 1) Right-click -> Copy Link Location
> 2) Go to File -> Email Link...
>
> It ADDED another step. It is not the same. You now overwrite anything you had in the clipboard just to send a link, in 2 steps, as opposed to sending it with one step and not having your clipboard touched.
>
> I am not trying to blame you, just highlighting the issue with this. It was changed to make things 'easier', yet it made more steps and interferes with another function (the clipboard) to send a link.

Try, "File>Email Link", same number of steps.

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Rod

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Oct 16, 2012, 4:07:40 PM10/16/12
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You used to be able to right click on a link on a page and send that link
via email. Now you have to either open the link, or copy and paste into the
email mail client. Including having to open the client, this creates
several more steps. Mozilla has gone backwards with this move by reducing
operability.

Doc

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Oct 16, 2012, 4:52:34 PM10/16/12
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On 10/16/2012 02:06 AM, Herb typed this:
Thanks Herb, will give it a go...

Doc

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Oct 16, 2012, 4:54:23 PM10/16/12
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On 10/16/2012 07:59 AM, Chris Ilias typed this:
Submitted 'feedback' today. Hope at some point it is brought back. Thanks!
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responder

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Oct 16, 2012, 5:31:12 PM10/16/12
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I wonder if any of the programming experts could come up with a tweak
that would put it back in the context menu. I would if I knew what to do.

»Q«

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Oct 16, 2012, 8:29:20 PM10/16/12
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:31:12 -0400
responder <resp...@nospam.net> wrote:

[about the 'send link' feature'
> I wonder if any of the programming experts could come up with a tweak
> that would put it back in the context menu. I would if I knew what to
> do.

IME, the Menu Editor extension is the best way to rearrange menu
items.

<https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/menu-editor/>

cpl...@gmail.com

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On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:00:34 PM UTC-4, WaltS wrote:
> On 10/09/2012 05:43 PM, nobody wrote:
>
> > When on a web page I often want to shar it with others. Up until this
>
> > version there was an option in the r-click menu to "send link" which
>
> > worked well for this behavior. It is gone in this version. One can
>
> > still go to the file menu and "email link" but I see no way to do if
>
> > from the r-click menu. Am I missing something? I wonder why it was
>
> > removed...
>
> >
>
>
>
> Removed from the context menu, and replaced by Email link in the file menu.


Of course, the new feature doesn't do what the old one did. Very nice. Oh well. Chrome, here I come.
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Ron Hunter

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Oct 17, 2012, 12:08:49 PM10/17/12
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If that is all you see to favor Firefox that you would change browsers,
where will you go when you find something you don't like in Chrome?

clay

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Oct 17, 2012, 12:12:32 PM10/17/12
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On 10/16/2012 1:56 PM, Sailfish wrote:
> My bloviated meandering follows what Rod graced us with on 10/16/2012
>...
>>
>> You used to be able to right click on a link on a page and send that link
>> via email. Now you have to either open the link, or copy and paste into the
>> email mail client. Including having to open the client, this creates
>> several more steps. Mozilla has gone backwards with this move by reducing
>> operability.
>
> That's a different question than the one I answered but I'll respond
> nonetheless. I've never used that capability (never knew of it until you
> just brought it up, actually) and doubt that, now after knowing, I would
> ever have used it anyway since I would always want to know what is on a
> page before emailing it to another. I could be wrong, admittedly, but
> this seems like an extremely edge-case issue (albeit it a possible
> regression issue).
>

Some folks 'never' is other folks 'always'.
I use Send Link daily... Well, used to anyway.
I really appreciated how it would compose an email without having
Thunderbird open or opening Thunderbird and leaving it open.

Off to check the ESR version. Maybe it hasn't been neutered yet!

Ron Hunter

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Oct 17, 2012, 12:23:00 PM10/17/12
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Just looked, and neither Chrome, nor IE9 has the ability. It's in the
interface on IE, but greyed out. No such thing in Chrome.

clay

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Oct 17, 2012, 1:16:13 PM10/17/12
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ah, Now it makes sense.
The continuing quest to make Firefox just like the others, even if it
means removing functionality that has been in place since (before) day one.

Good news is it is still in the ESR release so for now you'll find me on
that channel.
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Herb

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Oct 17, 2012, 2:21:54 PM10/17/12
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Why, when the Alt+F, followed by E works perfectly well?

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Herb

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On 16.10.2012 21:07 UK Time, Rod wrote:

> You used to be able to right click on a link on a page and send that link
> via email. Now you have to either open the link, or copy and paste into the
> email mail client. Including having to open the client, this creates
> several more steps. Mozilla has gone backwards with this move by reducing
> operability.
>

As I keep saying, I can recommend the Alt+F, followed by E

Pretty straightforward, isn't it?

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WaltS

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Oct 17, 2012, 2:53:49 PM10/17/12
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Only if you have opened the link in a new tab or window as far as my
testing shows.

Test site cnn.com, test link "Nike ends contract with Armstrong".

Using Firefox 16.0.1, I have to open the link, then your method works.

Using Firefox 15.0.1, I can right click, and select "Send Link..." from
the context menu.

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Ron Hunter

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Oct 17, 2012, 3:43:53 PM10/17/12
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It is still available from the file menu, which is more than they other
browsers can say.

Ron Hunter

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Oct 17, 2012, 3:45:18 PM10/17/12
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On 10/17/2012 1:53 PM, WaltS wrote:
> On 10/17/2012 02:23 PM, Herb wrote:
>> On 16.10.2012 21:07 UK Time, Rod wrote:
>>
>>> You used to be able to right click on a link on a page and send that
>>> link
>>> via email. Now you have to either open the link, or copy and paste
>>> into the
>>> email mail client. Including having to open the client, this creates
>>> several more steps. Mozilla has gone backwards with this move by
>>> reducing
>>> operability.
>>>
>>
>> As I keep saying, I can recommend the Alt+F, followed by E
>>
>> Pretty straightforward, isn't it?
>>
>
> Only if you have opened the link in a new tab or window as far as my
> testing shows.
>
> Test site cnn.com, test link "Nike ends contract with Armstrong".
>
> Using Firefox 16.0.1, I have to open the link, then your method works.
>
> Using Firefox 15.0.1, I can right click, and select "Send Link..." from
> the context menu.
>
Just where do you right click to do that? If the page isn't open, where
are you clicking?

clay

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Oct 17, 2012, 3:59:30 PM10/17/12
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Right click on a link in a page>Send Link sends that link.
Can't do that with Alt+f>e.

Right click on a non link area of a page>Send Link sends the link to the
page.

Right click on a blank page sends about:blank...

WaltS

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Oct 17, 2012, 5:45:16 PM10/17/12
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Any damn link on the cnn.com site.

Chris Ilias

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On 12-10-17 1:16 PM, clay wrote:
>>> Some folks 'never' is other folks 'always'.
>>> I use Send Link daily... Well, used to anyway.
<snip>
>
> ah, Now it makes sense.
> The continuing quest to make Firefox just like the others, even if it
> means removing functionality that has been in place since (before) day one.

If you look at the bug report cited in this thread, you'll see that this
change was planned in March of 2004 (before Chrome existed). You'll also
see a comment from June of this year that cites test pilot data showing
how many people use the feature.

So please take the time to do research before making judgment calls
about development decisions. If you don't, it is considered an ignorant
attack.
If you don't know why a change was made, just ask.

And remember, this isn't the place to voice opinions about development.
That's what the "Submit Feedback" item in the Help menu is for. If you'd
like to get into an actual discussion about Firefox development, that's
what the mozilla.dev.apps.firefox newsgroup is for. And design-specific
issues can be discussed in mozilla.dev.usability.

nobody

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Oct 17, 2012, 8:03:00 PM10/17/12
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On 10/17/2012 10:01 AM, Sailfish wrote:
> My bloviated meandering follows what cpl...@gmail.com graced us with on
> 10/17/2012 6:16 AM:
> How so?

Look up two posts. How would one send a link from within a page?

I think this is another very unfortunate change motivated by people who
don't use the feature and ignoring other users needs. Reducing the
number of items in the r-click menu (by one) is meaningless.

It isn't sending me to a different browser, just reducing my
appreciation of this one.

nobody

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Oct 17, 2012, 8:07:01 PM10/17/12
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On 10/16/2012 4:08 AM, Herb wrote:
> On 16.10.2012 07:25 UK Time, chri...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> How do you propose sending someone a link from a page in the same
>> number of clicks? You used to be able to just:
>> 1) Right-click -> Send Link
>>
>> You now have to:
>> 1) Right-click -> Copy Link Location
>> 2) Go to File -> Email Link...
>
> Not necessarily.
>
> I use the shortcut Alt+F, followed by E.
>

With the mouse? Or are you suggesting that everyone should browse from
the keyboard?

nobody

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Oct 17, 2012, 8:23:38 PM10/17/12
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Do I need to follow you around and explain to you that not everyone
browses from the keyboard? Your suggestion, which you obviously think
is the last word, doesn't help mouse users or disabled users that rely
on the mouse.

Sailfish

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Oct 17, 2012, 8:39:16 PM10/17/12
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My bloviated meandering follows what nobody graced us with on 10/17/2012
5:03 PM:
> On 10/17/2012 10:01 AM, Sailfish wrote:
>> My bloviated meandering follows what cpl...@gmail.com graced us with on
>> 10/17/2012 6:16 AM:
>>> On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:00:34 PM UTC-4, WaltS wrote:
>>>> On 10/09/2012 05:43 PM, nobody wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When on a web page I often want to shar it with others. Up until this
>>>>> version there was an option in the r-click menu to "send link" which
>>>>> worked well for this behavior. It is gone in this version. One can
>>>>> still go to the file menu and "email link" but I see no way to do if
>>>>> from the r-click menu. Am I missing something? I wonder why it was
>>>>> removed...
>>>>
>>>> Removed from the context menu, and replaced by Email link in the file
>>>> menu.
>>>
>>> Of course, the new feature doesn't do what the old one did. Very
>>> nice. Oh well. Chrome, here I come.
>>
>> How so?
>
> Look up two posts. How would one send a link from within a page?

I had already responded earlier to that aspect; however, it wasn't at
all clear that that was what cplager was referring to since it does open
the email client with the current URL. Thus, the reason for my inquiry.

In effect, ask a vague question, expect to get an inquiry requesting
clarification.
>
> I think this is another very unfortunate change motivated by people who
> don't use the feature and ignoring other users needs. Reducing the
> number of items in the r-click menu (by one) is meaningless.
>
To you. Mountain -> molehill to me.

> It isn't sending me to a different browser, just reducing my
> appreciation of this one.
>
Remember to submit feedback to that effect.

followup mozilla.general
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Herb

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Oct 18, 2012, 7:34:15 AM10/18/12
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I for one find the keyboard shortcut more convenient than using the mouse.

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Herb

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Oct 18, 2012, 7:35:01 AM10/18/12
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On 17.10.2012 19:53 UK Time, WaltS wrote:
> On 10/17/2012 02:23 PM, Herb wrote:
>> On 16.10.2012 21:07 UK Time, Rod wrote:
>>
>>> You used to be able to right click on a link on a page and send that
>>> link
>>> via email. Now you have to either open the link, or copy and paste
>>> into the
>>> email mail client. Including having to open the client, this creates
>>> several more steps. Mozilla has gone backwards with this move by
>>> reducing
>>> operability.
>>>
>>
>> As I keep saying, I can recommend the Alt+F, followed by E
>>
>> Pretty straightforward, isn't it?
>>
>
> Only if you have opened the link in a new tab or window as far as my
> testing shows.
>
> Test site cnn.com, test link "Nike ends contract with Armstrong".
>
> Using Firefox 16.0.1, I have to open the link, then your method works.
>
> Using Firefox 15.0.1, I can right click, and select "Send Link..." from
> the context menu.
>

Not sure what you mean.

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WaltS

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Oct 18, 2012, 8:08:31 AM10/18/12
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I mean using cnn.com as a test site, or a site of your choice. Pick any
link.

Using Firefox 16.0.1, to use Alt + f, followed by e, you have to
activate the link in a new tab or window.

Previously as seen on Firefox 15.0.1 and below, you could just hover
your cursor over a link, right-click on it and select "Send Link..."
from the context menu. Alt +e, followed by f, doesn't work on an
unactivated link.

Doesn't matter to me. I usually copy and paste the link in a message I
am sending if it includes a link.

Ron Hunter

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Oct 18, 2012, 10:59:56 AM10/18/12
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I don't. The keyboard is for typing messages. Mouse for interface use.

Ron Hunter

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Oct 18, 2012, 11:01:36 AM10/18/12
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That is probably safer as links are often NOT showing the actual web
address, so you may be sending your friend into a dangerous place....
Go there first, yourself.

Ann Watson

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Oct 18, 2012, 11:28:35 AM10/18/12
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I was thinking along the same lines; it's a security feature then
:-).
AW

Herb

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Oct 18, 2012, 12:13:05 PM10/18/12
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If you say so.

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Herb

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Oct 18, 2012, 12:17:07 PM10/18/12
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I see what you mean now, thanks for your patience.

I don't think I ever used the Send Link function in this way, and I
wouldn't want to (see Ron's "dangerous place" comment).

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Ron Hunter

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Oct 18, 2012, 4:05:49 PM10/18/12
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Which goes to show that different people do the same functions different
ways. Whatever works better for YOU is the 'right way'. It seems that
the devs aren't using the context menu, but then neither do I, and I am
a mouse guy. So, maybe that is why they removed it. At least this
change has data to back up the decision.

Ron Hunter

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Oct 18, 2012, 4:06:45 PM10/18/12
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I haven't read the thread in Bugzilla about it, but I doubt that was a
real consideration.

»Q«

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Oct 24, 2012, 11:54:31 AM10/24/12
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:43:24 -0500
nobody <nob...@none.invalid> wrote:

> When on a web page I often want to shar it with others. Up until
> this version there was an option in the r-click menu to "send link"
> which worked well for this behavior. It is gone in this version.

50000 posts later, WaltS has found a new extension to do it. :)

<https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/send-link-in-context-menu/>

responder

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Oct 24, 2012, 2:36:46 PM10/24/12
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I personally thank you for finding this addon.

Interestingly, if you could do it, why couldn't Mozilla?

WaltS

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Oct 24, 2012, 3:03:19 PM10/24/12
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Don't understand your question. Does it help that it appeared yesterday?


Version 0.3 Info
October 23, 2012
Released under Mozilla Public License, version 1.1

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Ron Hunter

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Oct 24, 2012, 4:20:23 PM10/24/12
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On 10/24/2012 3:04 PM, Sailfish wrote:
> My bloviated meandering follows what responder graced us with on
> 10/24/2012 11:36 AM:
> Mozilla had done it originally and decided to take it out for reasons
> they felt were warranted. Mozilla isn't in the business of writing
> add-ons to restore the very thing they removed; although, they don't
> mind someone from the Mozilla community to create said add-on; which is
> what occurred.
>
Exactly what happened with the Status Bar. They eliminated it, and an
extension restored it, then they put in an add-ons bar... That one was
a real battle.

Chris Ilias

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Oct 24, 2012, 5:59:27 PM10/24/12
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On 12-10-25 7:20 AM, Ron Hunter wrote:
> Exactly what happened with the Status Bar. They eliminated it, and an
> extension restored it, then they put in an add-ons bar... That one was
> a real battle.

They planned on putting the add-ons bar there before the extension was
created. The "battle" was about where to show link destination URLs.

Ron Hunter

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Oct 24, 2012, 8:59:58 PM10/24/12
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On 10/24/2012 4:59 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:
> On 12-10-25 7:20 AM, Ron Hunter wrote:
>> Exactly what happened with the Status Bar. They eliminated it, and an
>> extension restored it, then they put in an add-ons bar... That one was
>> a real battle.
>
> They planned on putting the add-ons bar there before the extension was
> created. The "battle" was about where to show link destination URLs.
>
Yes, and if you check, you will see that I was one of those who
supported putting it in there.

responder

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Oct 24, 2012, 9:30:34 PM10/24/12
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On 10/24/2012 4:04 PM, Sailfish wrote:
> My bloviated meandering follows what responder graced us with on
> 10/24/2012 11:36 AM:
> Mozilla had done it originally and decided to take it out for reasons
> they felt were warranted. Mozilla isn't in the business of writing
> add-ons to restore the very thing they removed; although, they don't
> mind someone from the Mozilla community to create said add-on; which is
> what occurred.
>

Nothing but double talk...for what reason, I don't understand.

What is most interesting is that we don't hear a word directly from the
developers.
Only from those who act as their surrogates.

Wouldn't we have a more mature conversation if we could converse
directly with them?

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Jay Garcia

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Oct 25, 2012, 12:54:16 AM10/25/12
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On 24.10.2012 20:30, responder wrote:
If you visit the right groups, then you will have the opportunity to
chime in with the devs, managers, programmers, etc. You're welcomed over
at mozilla.dev.usability .. be respectful and respect will be returned.

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responder

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Oct 25, 2012, 7:01:56 AM10/25/12
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I appreciate your suggestion and I did just now subscribe there.

The last post was May 30 2012 something about system administrators,
and the one before was Nov 2011 about bookmarklets.

If this is the place to go to discuss all the current threads, why
hasn't anyone gone there?

Chris Ilias

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Oct 25, 2012, 7:46:59 AM10/25/12
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On 12-10-25 12:30 PM, responder wrote:
> Nothing but double talk...for what reason, I don't understand.
>
> What is most interesting is that we don't hear a word directly from the
> developers.
> Only from those who act as their surrogates.
>
> Wouldn't we have a more mature conversation if we could converse
> directly with them?

This really isn't the place to voice opinions about development. That's
what the "Submit Feedback" item in the Help menu is for. If you'd like
to get into an actual discussion about Firefox development, that's what
the mozilla.dev.apps.firefox newsgroup is for. And design-specific
issues can be discussed in mozilla.dev.usability.

If there's a change that you want to know why it was made, asking in
here should be fine. But be wary of those whose answers are based on
speculation.

clay

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Oct 25, 2012, 12:04:18 PM10/25/12
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Would it make any difference to hear it from the devs directly that it's
their ap, and they are making it the way they like it, and we can either
like it or lump it?
[followup>m.general]

Jay Garcia

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Oct 25, 2012, 2:52:03 PM10/25/12
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That group is more design-based than anything else but I just wanted to
point out that there is/are venues where you are welcomed to post, bring
up issues, ask questions and so on. Chris also pointed out the dev group
here where you can subscribe and post more general questions, issues, etc.

Followup set to .general

»Q«

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Oct 25, 2012, 9:50:41 PM10/25/12
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:30:34 -0400
responder <resp...@nospam.net> wrote:

> Nothing but double talk...for what reason, I don't understand.
>
> What is most interesting is that we don't hear a word directly from
> the developers.
> Only from those who act as their surrogates.

They don't generally post here, hopefully preferring to spend their
time working on the browser. Links have been posted to their
reasoning; their decisions and the reasons are public.

FWLIW, I understand the reason, and I agree with it.

nobody

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Oct 27, 2012, 5:55:55 PM10/27/12
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»Q«

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Oct 28, 2012, 12:08:17 AM10/28/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:55:55 -0500
nobody <nob...@none.invalid> wrote:

> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/send-link-in-context-menu/?src=ss
>
> Problem solved.

Just adding a [solved] tag to the Subject, hopefully to save somebody
time wading through the thread.

Neil Turkenkopf

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Oct 29, 2012, 12:47:58 PM10/29/12
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>"nobody" wrote in message
>news:Q9mdnerKJrYdxRHN...@mozilla.org...
>https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/send-link-in-context-menu/?src=ss
>
>Problem solved.
>
...............
Hi, I'm a little confused.

Does this Add-on allow you to right-click an active link (only) within a
page,
or does it merely send the entire page like when choosing File - Email Link?

Neil ¦¬D
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Ron Hunter

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Oct 29, 2012, 1:34:48 PM10/29/12
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Email link ONLY sends the link, not any information ON the page. the
right-click process will send the link you have selected. It also
doesn't send anything else on the page.

Neil Turkenkopf

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Oct 30, 2012, 11:31:17 AM10/30/12
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"Ron Hunter" wrote in message
news:gLadnQ4KLNWyIxPN...@mozilla.org...
Thanks, Ron!
Neil ¦¬D
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nobody

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Oct 31, 2012, 3:58:35 PM10/31/12
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On 10/29/2012 11:47 AM, Neil Turkenkopf wrote:
Both, actually. If you r-click generally on the page it will send that
page, just like file-email link. If you r-click on an active link, it
will send just that link.

The extension works just like FF did before they changed it.


responder

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Oct 31, 2012, 5:44:32 PM10/31/12
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Kinda makes you wonder, no?

Works well for me and I appreciate the efforts and talent of the person
who wrote the extension.

clic...@gmail.com

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Nov 11, 2012, 11:18:17 PM11/11/12
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> I can recommend the Alt+F, followed by E shortcut.
>
> No need to scroll/move away from the interface.

Suppose I'm on a page with 5 links, I don't want to open the links. I just want to Right Click and Send Link. It's quick, it's easy, and now it's gone. Alt F + E doesn't work in this situation, unless I actually open each link.

If this was software I purchased, I'd be on the phone with someone until it was back the way it was. And it would be put back, because without users, your software is nothing.
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Ron Hunter

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Nov 12, 2012, 3:16:20 AM11/12/12
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There are extensions that add back this feature. Check them out. Note
that just because you use this feature, doesn't mean everyone does. I
never noticed, partly because I consider it good internet etiquette to
make sure a link is good before sending it to anyone else. Ie, I visit
the link to check it before sending.

gloria....@gmail.com

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Nov 13, 2012, 5:24:02 PM11/13/12
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On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:26:11 PM UTC-4, erich...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> I wonder why the developers think they know how to use firefox best. Why not give the user the option to set up the context menu the way they like it?

Oh, wouldn't that be _loverly_! I wonder how difficult it would be for Firefox developers to give us that option. I use Right-click > "Send link" so often that I'm not going to upgrade from Firefox 15.0.1 until it's put back in.

nobody

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Nov 13, 2012, 5:33:43 PM11/13/12
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Not to worry, Gloria, as an extension to return the capability is
available, and it works fine. Good luck...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/send-link-in-context-menu/?src=ss

gloria....@gmail.com

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Nov 13, 2012, 5:44:20 PM11/13/12
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Thanks for the prompt response! But I think I'll stick with FF 15.0.1 anyhow and wait to see what other unexpected changes are going to happen.

gloria....@gmail.com

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Nov 13, 2012, 6:05:28 PM11/13/12
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An example of another unexpected - and unannounced - and unwanted change: See Google Group mozilla.dev.apps.firefox: Tabs-on-bottom mode: keep it - 147 posts

Jim Porter

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Nov 13, 2012, 6:10:32 PM11/13/12
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On 11/13/2012 05:05 PM, gloria....@gmail.com wrote:
> An example of another unexpected - and unannounced - and unwanted
> change: See Google Group mozilla.dev.apps.firefox: Tabs-on-bottom
> mode: keep it - 147 posts

The only thing that's changed is that Firefox hides the "Tabs on Top"
checkbox in the UI to discourage new users from switching to it. If you
have tabs on bottom already, nothing will change, and if you make a new
profile, you can toggle a hidden pref to put tabs on the bottom:
browser.tabs.onTop

- Jim
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