XULRunner future and ownership

[Benjamin Smedberg]

The Mozilla project no longer sees XULRunner as a priority project. It's
not core to advancing the open web or any of our current or planned
products.

As Ben Hearsum noted a couple weeks ago, we are turning off automated
XULRunner builds and so XULRunner will probably quickly cease to work.
In order to keep XULRunner in the tree, we need an owner who wants to
keep it building and running properly. Currently, I am the nominal owner
of the XULRunner code, but I have no desire to do this work or even
really to review the necessary patches. I am looking to see whether
there is an alternate owner who is interested in the task of keeping
XULRunner building and running properly and reviewing patches to
XULRuner-specific code. Please contact me if you want to nominate
yourself or somebody else for this role.

If I do not find a suitable owner in the next two weeks, I intend to
remove the XULRunner code from the mozilla-central repository on 14-August.

--BDS

[Fabrice Desré]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 14:30:00 -0400, Benjamin Smedberg wrote:

> If I do not find a suitable owner in the next two weeks, I intend to
> remove the XULRunner code from the mozilla-central repository on
> 14-August.

Two weeks during summer time seems a bit short. You may not get
interested people that are vacationing.

Fabrice

[Gregory Szorc]

The old code will still be there in version control. If an owner emerges
after 2 weeks, we can always revert the delete.

[Mike de Boer]

I’d like to volunteer.

Not much more to say, really :-)

Cheers,

Mike.

> On 29 Jul 2015, at 20:30, Benjamin Smedberg <benj...@smedbergs.us> wrote:
>
> The Mozilla project no longer sees XULRunner as a priority project. It's not core to advancing the open web or any of our current or planned products.
>
> As Ben Hearsum noted a couple weeks ago, we are turning off automated XULRunner builds and so XULRunner will probably quickly cease to work. In order to keep XULRunner in the tree, we need an owner who wants to keep it building and running properly. Currently, I am the nominal owner of the XULRunner code, but I have no desire to do this work or even really to review the necessary patches. I am looking to see whether there is an alternate owner who is interested in the task of keeping XULRunner building and running properly and reviewing patches to XULRuner-specific code. Please contact me if you want to nominate yourself or somebody else for this role.
>

> If I do not find a suitable owner in the next two weeks, I intend to remove the XULRunner code from the mozilla-central repository on 14-August.
>

> --BDS
>
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[Benjamin Kerensa]

XULRunner is dead, Long live XULRunner!

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Benjamin Smedberg <benj...@smedbergs.us>

wrote:

> The Mozilla project no longer sees XULRunner as a priority project. It's
> not core to advancing the open web or any of our current or planned
> products.
>
> As Ben Hearsum noted a couple weeks ago, we are turning off automated
> XULRunner builds and so XULRunner will probably quickly cease to work. In
> order to keep XULRunner in the tree, we need an owner who wants to keep it
> building and running properly. Currently, I am the nominal owner of the
> XULRunner code, but I have no desire to do this work or even really to
> review the necessary patches. I am looking to see whether there is an
> alternate owner who is interested in the task of keeping XULRunner building
> and running properly and reviewing patches to XULRuner-specific code.
> Please contact me if you want to nominate yourself or somebody else for
> this role.
>
> If I do not find a suitable owner in the next two weeks, I intend to
> remove the XULRunner code from the mozilla-central repository on 14-August.
>
> --BDS
>
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[Eric Shepherd]

Benjamin Smedberg wrote:
> I am looking to see whether there is an alternate owner who is
> interested in the task of keeping XULRunner building and running
> properly and reviewing patches to XULRuner-specific code. Please
> contact me if you want to nominate yourself or somebody else for this
> role.

I should note also that the MDN staff can't put any time into helping
with XULRunner specific documentation anymore, so any documentation work
would have to be taken up by the person or people that pick up the project.

I would, however, be quite happy to spend some time helping whoever
takes on that work -- or whoever picks up writing work for it -- on
exactly how to contribute the needed material to MDN.

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[revere...@gmail.com]

I'll volunteer to help out with documentation.

[Mike de Boer]

I’d like to finetune my earlier statement - after talking things over a bit with Benjamin - to say: I’d like to volunteer if there’s no one else moving forward to take this project on.

The reason is that I’m not currently working on or using XULRunner tech, so my level of engagement is low. I’m only really interested in a gecko bootstrap binary (called ‘xulrunner-stub’ at the moment) to continue to exist for my future projects.

If there’s someone who’s using XULRunner frequently for their projects, I’m sure she or he will be a much better fit! Please step forward. :-)

Cheers,

Mike.

> On 29 Jul 2015, at 23:46, Mike de Boer <mde...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
> I’d like to volunteer.
>
> Not much more to say, really :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike.
>

>> On 29 Jul 2015, at 20:30, Benjamin Smedberg <benj...@smedbergs.us> wrote:
>>
>> The Mozilla project no longer sees XULRunner as a priority project. It's not core to advancing the open web or any of our current or planned products.
>>
>> As Ben Hearsum noted a couple weeks ago, we are turning off automated XULRunner builds and so XULRunner will probably quickly cease to work. In order to keep XULRunner in the tree, we need an owner who wants to keep it building and running properly. Currently, I am the nominal owner of the XULRunner code, but I have no desire to do this work or even really to review the necessary patches. I am looking to see whether there is an alternate owner who is interested in the task of keeping XULRunner building and running properly and reviewing patches to XULRuner-specific code. Please contact me if you want to nominate yourself or somebody else for this role.
>>
>> If I do not find a suitable owner in the next two weeks, I intend to remove the XULRunner code from the mozilla-central repository on 14-August.
>>
>> --BDS
>>
>> _______________________________________________

[Eric Shepherd]

> revere...@gmail.com <mailto:revere...@gmail.com>
> July 30, 2015 at 10:17 AM

>
> I'll volunteer to help out with documentation.

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> Benjamin Smedberg <mailto:benj...@smedbergs.us>
> July 29, 2015 at 2:30 PM

> The Mozilla project no longer sees XULRunner as a priority project.
> It's not core to advancing the open web or any of our current or
> planned products.
>
> As Ben Hearsum noted a couple weeks ago, we are turning off automated
> XULRunner builds and so XULRunner will probably quickly cease to work.
> In order to keep XULRunner in the tree, we need an owner who wants to
> keep it building and running properly. Currently, I am the nominal
> owner of the XULRunner code, but I have no desire to do this work or

> even really to review the necessary patches. I am looking to see

> whether there is an alternate owner who is interested in the task of
> keeping XULRunner building and running properly and reviewing patches
> to XULRuner-specific code. Please contact me if you want to nominate
> yourself or somebody else for this role.
>

> If I do not find a suitable owner in the next two weeks, I intend to
> remove the XULRunner code from the mozilla-central repository on
> 14-August.
>
> --BDS
>
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Awesome! Hopefully you'll be able to have no serious trouble keeping up
the XULRunner docs. Please do have a look at our content and style
guide: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/MDN/Contribute/Content

And if you or anyone else helping with XULRunner docs needs help getting
going with editing on MDN, our starter guide is here:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/MDN/Getting_started

Please feel free to ping me any time by email or on IRC if you'd like to
talk about it. I've been at this stuff for a long time so I may have
useful advice to offer if you need it.

[mrjoshu...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 2:30:54 PM UTC-4, Benjamin Smedberg wrote:
> The Mozilla project no longer sees XULRunner as a priority project. It's
> not core to advancing the open web or any of our current or planned
> products.
>

I'm looking at creating a simple XUL app as a way of replacing Open Web Apps which just found their way onto the chopping block. My plan is to try to create a shim that will run firefox with the -a argument. Is this going to keep working, or is that going to break when XULRunner gets turned down?

[Devan Shah]

On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 2:30:54 PM UTC-4, Benjamin Smedberg wrote:

Hello

Is the xulrunner SDK officially deprecated now. I see that the latest xulrunner version is xulrunner-41.0.2 would this be compatible wit Firefox 45. If not where can I get a version that is compatible with Firefox 45. I see that http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/xulrunner/nightly/latest-trunk/Deprecation_notice.txt points to:

XULRunner SDKs can now be downloaded from
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-central/

Theses are the nightly builds, but where can I get the release version for Firefox 45. Also does the SDK change from Firefox 45 to Firefox 45 ESR.

Thanks
Devan Shah

[Dave Townsend]

I'm not sure why that page links to the nightly builds but the release
versions are here: http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

Note that Firefox 45 hasn't been released yet so the latest SDK is for
one of the beta versions.

[Devan Shah]

So xulrunner SDK version 41.0.2 will not work with FF 45 right.

[Dave Townsend]

Correct, you must use the matching version.

[Devan Shah]

Thanks

[M.Bauer...@sto.com]

Is building the runtime manually still an option? If so, how would I go about it? Are the relevant sources all merged into the Firefox repository?

[Philip Chee]

Xulrunner has just been removed from the tree so your question it obsolete.

Phil

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[段垚]

Hi,

For those who are still interested in XULRunner (especially the stub), I
created a project to continue to build xulrunner-stub with Firefox SDK.
Here is the link:
https://github.com/duanyao/xulrunner-stub .

I extracted xulrunner/stub/nsXULStub.cpp, xpcom/build/nsXPCOMPrivate.h ,
toolkit/xre/nsWindowsWMain.cpp and build them with Firefox SDK, and it seems
to work well. However, I'd like to ask Mozilla pepole: will this route
keep feasible in the coming 2-3 years?

在 2016/2/22 15:28, M.Bauer...@sto.com 写道:
> Is building the runtime manually still an option? If so, how would I go about it? Are the relevant sources all merged into the Firefox repository?

[段垚]

Hi,

For those who are still interested in XULRunner, I created a project to
maintain the source of xulrunner-stub, and build against Firefox SDK.

Here is the link:
https://github.com/duanyao/xulrunner-stub

Currently only win32 is supported, and Firefox 47a2 is tested.

I'd like to ask Mozilla people: will this route work for the next 2 or 3

years?

在 2016/2/22 15:28, M.Bauer...@sto.com 写道:

> Is building the runtime manually still an option? If so, how would I go about it? Are the relevant sources all merged into the Firefox repository?

[段垚]

Hi,

For those who are still interested in XULRunner, I created a project to
maintain the source of xulrunner-stub, and build against Firefox SDK.
Here is the link:
https://github.com/duanyao/xulrunner-stub

Currently only win32 is supported, and Firefox 47a2 is tested.

I'd like to ask Mozilla people: will this route work for next 2 or 3 years?

在 2016/2/22 15:28, M.Bauer...@sto.com 写道:

> Is building the runtime manually still an option? If so, how would I go about it? Are the relevant sources all merged into the Firefox repository?