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harry newton

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Sep 25, 2017, 10:10:21 AM9/25/17
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Finally, Apple makes a smartphone camera that isn't the worst of the top
ten best Android smartphone cameras out there!

Woo hoo! Apple, for the first time ever, made a smartphone camera that
isn't on the bottom of the top ten best current Android cameras out there!

Good for Apple!
Apple iPhone 8 Plus reviewed: The best smartphone camera we¢ve ever tested
https://www.dxomark.com/apple-iphone-8-plus-reviewed-the-best-smartphone-camera-ever-tested/

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PS: Apple (again) boldfaced lied about the strength of the glass though.
https://youtu.be/unTZYFHExRs?t=89

"When Apple unveiled the iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X during its
big September press conference a couple of weeks ago, the company said the
glass backs on the phones is the strongest glass ever to be used on a
smartphone. There's no reason to beat around the bush: that was a lie."
http://bgr.com/2017/09/25/iphone-8-plus-case-needed-drop-test-oof/

Snit

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Sep 25, 2017, 11:30:30 AM9/25/17
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On 9/25/17, 7:10 AM, in article oqb2oa$1c13$1...@gioia.aioe.org, "harry newton"
<ha...@is.invalid> wrote:

> Finally, Apple makes a smartphone camera that isn't the worst of the top
> ten best Android smartphone cameras out there!

Finally implies they have not before. Any support for that?

> Woo hoo! Apple, for the first time ever, made a smartphone camera that
> isn't on the bottom of the top ten best current Android cameras out there!
>
> Good for Apple!
> Apple iPhone 8 Plus reviewed: The best smartphone camera we▔e ever tested
> https://www.dxomark.com/apple-iphone-8-plus-reviewed-the-best-smartphone-camer
> a-ever-tested/


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superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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android

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Sep 25, 2017, 1:39:26 PM9/25/17
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In article <oqb2oa$1c13$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
harry newton <ha...@is.invalid> wrote:

> Apple iPhone 8 Plus reviewed: The best smartphone camera we▔e ever tested
> https://www.dxomark.com/apple-iphone-8-plus-reviewed-the-best-smartphone-camer
> a-ever-tested/

This will without doubt put the iPhone fanbois mind to rest. Finnaly
DxOmark confirms their statements that iPhone is the best cameraphone
ever. It just took Apple 10 years to put a device on the market that the
DxOmark could proclaim as such!

The fact is that the DxO scores are as murky as ever and could be miles
from the real world perception.

My Xperia M4, "obsolete" and not "scored" has a 12 MP BSI sensor...

<https://www.cnet.com/products/sony-xperia-m4-aqua/specs/>

Can be had for 130 British Sterling:

<https://pricespy.co.uk/product.php?p=3028177>
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harry newton

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Sep 25, 2017, 9:08:16 PM9/25/17
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He who is Snit said on Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:30:28 -0700:

> Finally implies they have not before. Any support for that?

Apple has *never* been anywhere near the best in camera hardware.
<https://www.dxomark.com/about-us/>

Just read the same reference and note that this is the FIRST TIME ever that
an Apple mobile phone made it closer than tenth place.
<https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/>

It's old news that Apple cameras were almost always in tenth place.
It's new news that finally (woo hoo!) an Apple camera made first place!!!!!

Let's hope Apple can stay on top for once.

Snit

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Sep 25, 2017, 9:20:52 PM9/25/17
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On 9/25/17, 6:08 PM, in article oqc99r$1d7d$1...@gioia.aioe.org, "harry newton"
<ha...@is.invalid> wrote:

> He who is Snit said on Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:30:28 -0700:
>
>> Finally implies they have not before. Any support for that?
>
> Apple has *never* been anywhere near the best in camera hardware.
> <https://www.dxomark.com/about-us/>

A claim you have no support for. OK.

> Just read the same reference and note that this is the FIRST TIME ever that
> an Apple mobile phone made it closer than tenth place.
> <https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/>

Your link says nothing of the sort. Heck, from your own link Apple gets 5 of
the 10 top ratings!

> It's old news that Apple cameras were almost always in tenth place.

Not according to your own link!

> It's new news that finally (woo hoo!) an Apple camera made first place!!!!!
>
> Let's hope Apple can stay on top for once.

Why?

harry newton

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Sep 25, 2017, 10:05:46 PM9/25/17
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He who is Snit said on Mon, 25 Sep 2017 18:20:46 -0700:

>> Apple has *never* been anywhere near the best in camera hardware.
>> <https://www.dxomark.com/about-us/>
>
> A claim you have no support for. OK.

You're the only one who claims that the reference doesn't say what I said
it said. It's clear that you either don't understand the reference or, more
likely, you didn't even read it.

It's a well known long-standing fact that only you seem to be unaware of
because you refuse to read (or understand) the references that you were
pointed to.

This is the way your brain works (as does nospam's brain):
https://youtu.be/7VG_s2PCH_c?t=765

>> Just read the same reference and note that this is the FIRST TIME ever that
>> an Apple mobile phone made it closer than tenth place.
>> <https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/>
>
> Your link says nothing of the sort. Heck, from your own link Apple gets 5 of
> the 10 top ratings!

The whole point is that FINALLY Apple is higher than the bottom of the top
dozen or so mobile phone cameras.

For the past ten years, it has never climbed higher than tenth place and
was lower than 12th for 5 of the past 10 years.

>> It's old news that Apple cameras were almost always in tenth place.
>
> Not according to your own link!

That you can't understand or didn't read the references is your problem.

This is your how your brain works (based on everything you write):
https://youtu.be/7VG_s2PCH_c?t=765

Snit

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Sep 25, 2017, 10:17:49 PM9/25/17
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On 9/25/17, 7:05 PM, in article oqccll$1iip$1...@gioia.aioe.org, "harry newton"
<ha...@is.invalid> wrote:

> He who is Snit said on Mon, 25 Sep 2017 18:20:46 -0700:
>
>>> Apple has *never* been anywhere near the best in camera hardware.
>>> <https://www.dxomark.com/about-us/>
>>
>> A claim you have no support for. OK.
>
> You're the only one who claims that the reference doesn't say what I said
> it said. It's clear that you either don't understand the reference or, more
> likely, you didn't even read it.
>
> It's a well known long-standing fact that only you seem to be unaware of
> because you refuse to read (or understand) the references that you were
> pointed to.
>
> This is the way your brain works (as does nospam's brain):
> https://youtu.be/7VG_s2PCH_c?t=765

Your own reference shows Apple having 5 of the top 10 spots. This remains
true even as you throw a tantrum... funny that, eh?

>>> Just read the same reference and note that this is the FIRST TIME ever that
>>> an Apple mobile phone made it closer than tenth place.
>>> <https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/>
>>
>> Your link says nothing of the sort. Heck, from your own link Apple gets 5 of
>> the 10 top ratings!
>
> The whole point is that FINALLY Apple is higher than the bottom of the top
> dozen or so mobile phone cameras.

But our own link shows that not only are the 8 and 8 plus in the top 10 but
so are the 7, 7 plus, and 6.

Your own link refutes your claim.

> For the past ten years, it has never climbed higher than tenth place and
> was lower than 12th for 5 of the past 10 years.

Your own source contradicts your claim.

>>> It's old news that Apple cameras were almost always in tenth place.
>>
>> Not according to your own link!
>
> That you can't understand or didn't read the references is your problem.

You should click your link again. Top 10 phones:

* Apple iPhone 8 Plus
* Apple iPhone 8
* Google Pixel
* HTC U11
* Apple iPhone 7 Plus
* Apple iPhone 7
* Sony Xperlia XZ Premium
* Samsung Galacy 36 Edge
* Apple iPhone 6
* Nokia 808 PureView

Half of those are iPhones.

> This is your how your brain works (based on everything you write):
> https://youtu.be/7VG_s2PCH_c?t=765

So you resort to insults when you humiliate yourself. Interesting.

harry newton

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Sep 25, 2017, 10:30:10 PM9/25/17
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He who is Snit said on Mon, 25 Sep 2017 19:17:12 -0700:

> So you resort to insults when you humiliate yourself. Interesting.

That your failure to read or your failure to comprehend is considered an
insult by you is your own insinuation of your own actions and/or
inabilities.

Read this again:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/qcRetD6w1o4/6tBWXoxuBgAJ>

Specifically this top-dozen chart:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/qcRetD6w1o4/5r5huJHxCAAJ>

Here is the full chart as of that reporting date.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/qcRetD6w1o4/YO8fFoGTCQAJ>

89
- Google Pixel
88
- HTC 10
- Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
- Sony Xperia X Performance
87
- Huawei P10
- Moto Z Force Droid
- Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus
- Sony Xperia XZ
- Sony Xperia Z5
86
- Apple iPhone 7
- LG G5
- Samsung Galaxy Note V
- Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge
85
- Huawei Mate 9
- LG V20
84
- Apple iPhone 6s Plus
- Google Nexus 6P
- Moto Z Droid
- Moto G Plus
- Moto Droid Turbo 2
83
- LG G4
- Moto X Style
- Samsung Galaxy Note 4
82
- Apple iPhone 6s
- Apple iPhone 6 Plus
- Apple iPhone 6
- BlackBerry Priv
- Sony Xperia Z3+
- TCL 950
81
- Nextbit Robin
80
- Huawei P9
79
- Samsung Galaxy S5
- Sony Xperia M5
- Sony Xperia Z3
- Sony Xperia Z2
- Xiaomi Mi 5
78
- Google Nexus 6
- HTC One A9
- Xiaomi Mi 5SPlus
77
- Nokia 808 Pureview
- Nubia Z11
76
- Apple iPhone 5S
- OnePlus 2
- Sony Xperia Z1
75
- Samsung Galaxy S4
74
- Huawei P8
- Meizu Pro 6
- Nokia Lumia 1020
73
- LG G2
- Nokia Lumia 925
- Qiku Q Terra
72
- Apple iPhone 5
- Apple iPhone 4S
- Samsung Note II
- Samsung Galaxy S3
70
- GoPro HERO3
69
- Amazon Firephone
- HTC ONE M9
68
- HTC ONE M8
67
- BlackBerry Z10
66
- HTC 8X
- Nokia Lumia 920
61
- Sony Xperia Z
59
- Apple New iPad
57
- Samsung Galaxy S2
50
- Apple iPhone 4

REFERENCE: https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles (as of the date of that post).

Snit

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Sep 26, 2017, 12:00:57 AM9/26/17
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On 9/25/17, 7:30 PM, in article oqce3e$1lni$1...@gioia.aioe.org, "harry newton"
<ha...@is.invalid> wrote:

> He who is Snit said on Mon, 25 Sep 2017 19:17:12 -0700:
>
>> So you resort to insults when you humiliate yourself. Interesting.
>
> That your failure to read or your failure to comprehend is considered an
> insult by you is your own insinuation of your own actions and/or
> inabilities.
>
> Read this again:
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/qcRetD6w1o4/6tBWXoxu
> BgAJ>

Is that a link to one of your own posts as you alter names to avoid kill
filters and the like?

Whatever, it is a Usenet post... NOT the link you posted where 5 of the top
10 were iPhones.
Ditto.

> Here is the full chart as of that reporting date.
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/qcRetD6w1o4/YO8fFoGT
> CQAJ>

Ditto.


...
> REFERENCE: https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles (as of the date of that post).

I referenced the date you showed the link... five of the top 10 were
iPhones. Still the case now.

Seriously, click your own links. :)

Joerg Lorenz

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Sep 26, 2017, 1:02:09 AM9/26/17
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Am 25.09.17 um 16:10 schrieb harry newton:
> Finally, Apple makes a smartphone camera that isn't the worst of the top
> ten best Android smartphone cameras out there!

Idiot.
You want to start a flamewar at any price?
You are using a troll-server: aioe.org. That says more than thousand words.

And you are not able to set a correct FUP2.


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Snit

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Sep 26, 2017, 2:22:56 AM9/26/17
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On 9/25/17, 10:02 PM, in article oqcn0h$s6a$2...@news.albasani.net, "Joerg
He also changes names a lot.

Adolph Shickelgrubber

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Sep 26, 2017, 8:40:09 AM9/26/17
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Jawol obergruppenfuhrer!

Germans have such large words for guys who have such small cocks.

Doesn't matter to you though because you love sucking on Teutonic
Testicles and swallowing every last drop of Nazi man mustard like a
good little nancy boyo.

But most of all you Germans love getting bent over a panzer and having
an 88 up yer bungholes thrusting deep into yer rectums and leaving a
nice load of warm jaegermeister.

Heil Hitler!

harry newton

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Sep 26, 2017, 9:20:21 AM9/26/17
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He who is Snit said on Mon, 25 Sep 2017 21:00:53 -0700:

> Whatever, it is a Usenet post... NOT the link you posted where 5 of the top
> 10 were iPhones.

What you consistently fail to comprehend are cold hard facts.
Repeatedly you infer fantastic concoctions of your own creation.

You insist, for example, that proof is needed of fact that nobody disputed
at the time, even though the thread is well discussed and the report was
well read by the very people on this newsgroup.

This cold hard fact, along with any fact that you seem to come across, is
completely lost upon you, where you now insist that I re-create what no
longer exists at that web site (since they updated it with new iPhone
equipment tests which I myself reported faithfully).

Your illogical fabrications are, again, reminiscent of this approach:
https://youtu.be/7VG_s2PCH_c?t=765

harry newton

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Sep 26, 2017, 9:32:28 AM9/26/17
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He who is Joerg Lorenz said on Tue, 26 Sep 2017 07:02:09 +0200:

> Idiot.

These are facts:
a. You can't post an on-topic conversation
b. You completely missed the verbatim facts in the original post

The original post contained cold hard facts.
Most of the posters intelligently debated the merit of that cold hard fact.

That you are unable to comprehend nor are you able to intelligently debate
cold hard facts does not make everyone who can an idiot.

Snit

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Sep 26, 2017, 11:48:00 AM9/26/17
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On 9/26/17, 6:20 AM, in article oqdk6i$1u7e$1...@gioia.aioe.org, "harry newton"
Your own link listed the iPhones as holding 5 of the top 10 spots, which
completely contradicts your claim. Heck, some of those iPhones are quite
aged, now, so one would expect newer phones to best them over time.

You made a claim. Your own "evidence" proved you wrong. You refuse to
acknowledge this and instead respond with insults and demands I read YOUR
old posts, something I have no interest in doing.

Interesting trolling technique you have. No wonder you change your name so
often.

Snit

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Sep 26, 2017, 11:51:37 AM9/26/17
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On 9/26/17, 6:32 AM, in article oqdkt9$1vcd$1...@gioia.aioe.org, "harry newton"
You post lies and then call them "facts". Then you change names and do it
again.

Joerg Lorenz

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Sep 26, 2017, 12:06:34 PM9/26/17
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Am 26.09.17 um 17:51 schrieb Snit:
> On 9/26/17, 6:32 AM, in article oqdkt9$1vcd$1...@gioia.aioe.org, "harry newton"
> <ha...@is.invalid> wrote:
>
>> He who is Joerg Lorenz said on Tue, 26 Sep 2017 07:02:09 +0200:
>>
>>> Idiot.
>>
>> These are facts:
>> a. You can't post an on-topic conversation
>> b. You completely missed the verbatim facts in the original post
>>
>> The original post contained cold hard facts.
>> Most of the posters intelligently debated the merit of that cold hard fact.
>>
>> That you are unable to comprehend nor are you able to intelligently debate
>> cold hard facts does not make everyone who can an idiot.
>
> You post lies and then call them "facts". Then you change names and do it
> again.
>
+1

Chris

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Sep 26, 2017, 5:42:00 PM9/26/17
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/26/17, 6:32 AM, in article oqdkt9$1vcd$1...@gioia.aioe.org, "harry newton"
> <ha...@is.invalid> wrote:
>
>> He who is Joerg Lorenz said on Tue, 26 Sep 2017 07:02:09 +0200:
>>
>>> Idiot.
>>
>> These are facts:
>> a. You can't post an on-topic conversation
>> b. You completely missed the verbatim facts in the original post
>>
>> The original post contained cold hard facts.
>> Most of the posters intelligently debated the merit of that cold hard fact.
>>
>> That you are unable to comprehend nor are you able to intelligently debate
>> cold hard facts does not make everyone who can an idiot.
>
> You post lies and then call them "facts". Then you change names and do it
> again.

Yup. So don't reply to him. It only encourages him.

It's notable that he seems to be increasing the rate of nymshifting and
open flame baits recently. Probably not getting enough notice...

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