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Ragnusen Ultred

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Mar 28, 2018, 1:42:54 PM3/28/18
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What technical tricks can iOS users use to create intelligent "spacers" for
better organization within folders?
http://i.cubeupload.com/543dCG.gif

On Android, I use any of a number of file-system apps to create "spacers"
in folders such as these shown below in my Android map folder to separate
types and quality of apps on a logical basis (where the spacer is
intelligent, in that it lists qualities about each app that I like when I
press on that spacer).
http://i.cubeupload.com/lfRAQ7.gif

I'd like to organize the iOS folders similarly, if that's possible.
http://i.cubeupload.com/PRffaW.gif

Hence, I'd like to ask technically competent iOS users what you use for
"spacers" to separate types of apps inside your folders.

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On 2018-03-28, Ragnusen Ultred <rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:
> What technical tricks can iOS users use to create intelligent "spacers" for
> better organization within folders?

That's been discussed here before, but you ignored it because: troll.

To repeat what was already discussed, you just go here and follow the
directions:

<iempty.tooliphone.net>

> Hence, I'd like to ask technically competent iOS users what you use for
> "spacers" to separate types of apps inside your folders.

Truly technically competent iOS users have way more productive things to
do than arrange springboard icons in the shape of a Christmas tree or
circle.

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Ragnusen Ultred

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Am 28 Mar 2018 17:57:10 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

>> What technical tricks can iOS users use to create intelligent "spacers" for
>> better organization within folders?
>
> you just go here and follow the directions:
> <iempty.tooliphone.net>

Thanks for that suggestion of using the online "iEmpty" web site on my new
iOS 11.2.6 iPad to add an invisible folder spacer inside of the current iOS
folders.

a. http://i.cubeupload.com/1d0FXC.gif iOS 11 iPad home screen
b. http://i.cubeupload.com/LrMEeS.gif iEmpty web site GUI
c. http://i.cubeupload.com/leLi8k.gif Springboard screenshot
d. http://i.cubeupload.com/Qf7R98.gif iEmpty web site selection step
e. http://i.cubeupload.com/xfv7ys.gif iEmpty creates a black icon
f. http://i.cubeupload.com/biy5ML.gif Add that icon to the home screen
g. http://i.cubeupload.com/iuNMjX.gif It shows up as a keyhole white icon!
h. http://i.cubeupload.com/tlDBtO.gif With a name which needs changing

The process is not the normal App-Store process, apparently, in that there
is no iEmpty app on the Apple App Store, so you have to work through the
iemtpy.tooliphone.net web site, but that's OK, if it works well.

This seems to be the site's Youtube somewhat dated tutorial of the process:
https://youtu.be/MZElJAyu6gM?t=57

The first thing I did was I noticed the comments on the tutorial, which are
(verbatim, in order):
"This bullshit doesn't work but it doesn't surprise me"
"Can you update this for iOS 10? The website detects iOS 10 as iOS 0."
"This actually does work �� it was a little confusing but basically you
have to go to the icon that you want (I'd suggest the upper left hand
corner) and make it a icon on your homescreen"
"it don't work anymore"
"I thought it didn't work. It works if you follow the instructions on the
website. Go into wiggle mode and take a screenshot of the last (blank)
page. Then go back to the website and upload that pic and it'll work."
etc.

But it's often that you see such comments, so I moved on, hoping that it
works with iOS 11, and it sort of kind of does work. It's close, but the
wrong color in the end, for some unknown as yet reason.

I tested it a couple of times, and, well, it did create an icon where the
only two technical issues to surmount are that the icon is the wrong color
(it's the opposite of what it should be) and the wrong name (I didn't see
where the name could be set to what we'd want the name to be).

If you have it working, maybe you can see which step was the wrong step in
my ad-hoc step-by-step action log below (written so that others could
follow more easily in our footsteps).

1. Open up Safari on the iOS iPad
2. Point Safari to http://tooliphone.net
3. The video says to choose "iEmpty" in the menu but that menu entry
doesn't seem to exist at that web page.
4. The video says hit the "CUSTOMIZE!" button but that entry also doesn't
seem to exist on that web page.
5. The video says then his "CUSTOM Mode" but it also doesn't seem to exist
on that web page.
6. However, there is a "Customize iOS" section which is on the web page so
that's good enough to move forward without trying to follow the video
(which must be old so the menus changed).
7. Under that "Customize iOS" section is "Create BLANK icons".
8. The arrow at "Create BLANK icons" leads to "Upload" and "Add" buttons.
9. Hitting "Add" says to upload your homescreen background.
10. The iempty.toolipyhone.net site says to go to the last empty apps page
on the iOS device after long pressing a folder, which takes you to the
wiggling-icon springboard, and to then snap a screenshot of that mostly
empty springboard page, which I did, which saved that screenshot in the
screenshots section of the camera roll.
11. I then hit the "Choose File" button on the iempty.tooliphone.net page
12. I selected "Photo Library"
13. I selected "Screenshots"
14. I selected the springboard screenshot created moments ago.
15. I then hit the iEmpty web page orange "send" button.
16. That created a section on the iempty web page asking:
"Select the slot where you want to set the blank icon on your home
screen" Detected device 2048x1536 pixels / iOS 11.2 landscape
17. I chose the very first folder, at the top left, labeled 1x1
18. That came back with a black "Your << blank >> icon, Row 1, Column 1"
19. I tapped on the image in Safari that was created on the iEmpty web page
and now Safari loaded that icon in a web page.
20. I pressed the "sharing" icon at the top right of the iPad screen.
21. Then I pressed "Add to Home Screen"
22. It said "1x1.png 152x152 pixels" & I pressed "Add" on the iPad
23. Huh? This added a white (not black!) icon named "1x1.png 152x152
pixels" as if it were an app, where it went to a second screen and I
brought it back to the first screen to place it inside the folder.

Here's a summary of what worked:
A. The web site does create a 152x152 pixels app icon (that's good!)
B. The icon is the wrong color (which is ok, I guess, but it's the opposite
of invisible because of that)
C. The icon needs to be renamed from "1x1.png 152x152 pixels" to something
more useful.

With those two issues in mind, the process does work.

The icons aren't intelligent like the Android icons are, but they're
certainly better than nothing.

What's left to figure out is whether others have the opposite color when
they run through the same steps, and whether others can change the icon
name to something meaningful.

If we can solve those two remaining issues, that's good technical progress.

Thanks.

Steven Petruzzellis

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Sheer hogwash by an uninformed, lying, scheming, collaborating peabrain who couldn't tell the truth no matter what his socks/shills say.

You saying something is so does not make it true.



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Jolly Roger

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Mar 29, 2018, 12:18:14 PM3/29/18
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On 2018-03-28, Ragnusen Ultred <rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:
> Am 28 Mar 2018 17:57:10 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:
>
>>> What technical tricks can iOS users use to create intelligent "spacers" for
>>> better organization within folders?
>>
>> you just go here and follow the directions:
>> <iempty.tooliphone.net>
>
> Thanks for that suggestion of using the online "iEmpty" web site on my new
> iOS 11.2.6 iPad to add an invisible folder spacer inside of the current iOS
> folders.
>
> The process is not the normal App-Store process, apparently, in that there
> is no iEmpty app on the Apple App Store, so you have to work through the
> iemtpy.tooliphone.net web site, but that's OK, if it works well.

It may work well and it may not. That's for you to determine. If it
doesn't, there are of course other blank icon solutions you can try. I
have way more productive things to do with my time than babysit an old
fart troll.

> I tested it a couple of times, and, well, it did create an icon where the
> only two technical issues to surmount are that the icon is the wrong color
> (it's the opposite of what it should be) and the wrong name (I didn't see
> where the name could be set to what we'd want the name to be).

So try another "blank icon" solution. Want me to spoon feed you one
more? Here you go:

<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/icon-skins-maker/id427148293?mt=8>

Further food won't be spoon fed to you since I have a job and other more
productive things to do with my time, and you are a grown man who should
be able to find them on his own, especially considering how much
"smarter" than the "average iOS user" you claim to be.

And of course there's always jail breaking which allows any number of
customizations to the springboard and launcher - of course we know from
prior experience with you that while jail breaking can be done by any
8-year-old child, it is always somehow beyond your ability for a slew of
"reasons", because: troll. I've jail broken *plenty* of iOS devices, and
it's a simple thing to do - unless you are a troll with an agenda, that
is.

Happy hunting.

Ragnusen Ultred

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Am 29 Mar 2018 16:18:12 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

> It may work well and it may not. That's for you to determine.

I appreciate when you Apple posters act like adults, so I will respond in
kind, as I always do.

> If it
> doesn't, there are of course other blank icon solutions you can try. I
> have way more productive things to do with my time than babysit an old
> fart troll.

Well, you acting like an adult didn't last long, did it?

> So try another "blank icon" solution. Want me to spoon feed you one
> more? Here you go:
> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/icon-skins-maker/id427148293?mt=8>

Thanks for acting like an adult again.

On the iPad, I searched the App Store for that "Icon Skins Maker by
Lemondo", but the app doesn't seem to exist with the "iPad only" filter on,
but I did find it with the "iPhone only" filter on in case others are
following in our footsteps.

Thanks for that suggestion.
I'll test it out and report back if it works.

> And of course there's always jail breaking which allows any number of
> customizations to the springboard and launcher - of course we know from
> prior experience with you that while jail breaking can be done by any
> 8-year-old child, it is always somehow beyond your ability for a slew of
> "reasons", because: troll. I've jail broken *plenty* of iOS devices, and
> it's a simple thing to do - unless you are a troll with an agenda, that
> is.

You don't seem to last long as an adult, but to respond to that childish
rant as an adult, I will mention only the facts that you should know, which
is that I've jailbroken both Android and iOS devices, where the iOS
jailbreaking effort isn't in the jailbreaking but in finding an untethered
jailbreak that works over time not only on your particular latest baseband
and iOS version, but on future baseband and iOS versions.

Steven Petruzzellis

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Don't look now, but I think Daniel 'The Fool' Lewis has a serious mancrush on Craig Wiita. Turns out Daniel 'The Fool' Lewis's persistent referencing of Craig Wiita met his own definition of trolling, so he accused Craig Wiita of making that up. What is your evidence?

Are people still debating this?



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Jolly Roger

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On 2018-03-29, Ragnusen Ultred <rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:
> Am 29 Mar 2018 16:18:12 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:
>
>> It may work well and it may not. That's for you to determine. If it
>> doesn't, there are of course other blank icon solutions you can try.
>> I have way more productive things to do with my time than babysit an
>> old fart troll.
>
> Well, you acting like an adult didn't last long, did it?

You *always* act like a troll and then claim anyone who calls you out
isn't an adult. Cry harder, snowflake. : )

>> So try another "blank icon" solution. Want me to spoon feed you one
>> more? Here you go:
>> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/icon-skins-maker/id427148293?mt=8>
>
> On the iPad, I searched the App Store for that "Icon Skins Maker by
> Lemondo", but the app doesn't seem to exist with the "iPad only"
> filter on,

Not surprised. You always over-complicate the simplest things, because:
troll.

> but I did find it with the "iPhone only" filter on in case others are
> following in our footsteps.

Nobody in their right mind follows in your footsteps, old fart.

> Thanks for that suggestion. I'll test it out and report back if it
> works.

Nobody cares what you report back, trollboi. If you are so inept that
you can't find any of the other similar apps or solutions, then that's
all on you. No doubt you'll "just give up" yet again, because: troll.
Meanwhile, those of us with more productive things to do than arrange
our icons in silly shapes will run circles around you as usual.

>> And of course there's always jail breaking which allows any number of
>> customizations to the springboard and launcher - of course we know
>> from prior experience with you that while jail breaking can be done
>> by any 8-year-old child, it is always somehow beyond your ability for
>> a slew of "reasons", because: troll. I've jail broken *plenty* of iOS
>> devices, and it's a simple thing to do - unless you are a troll with
>> an agenda, that is.
>
> I've jailbroken both Android and iOS devices

Not in years, you haven't; and the one time you claimed to have done it
with iOS you admitted it took you hours upon hours just to figure out
*how* to do it, and then you had trouble doing it, which isn't
surprising at all considering how you faithfully over-complicate even
the simplest things in order to troll. So predictably, you won't jail
break, which means you won't be able to customize anything, because:
troll.

Have fun with that. Better things to do. Bye, Felicia.

Ragnusen Ultred

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Am 29 Mar 2018 19:42:21 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

> You *always* act like a troll and then claim anyone who calls you out
> isn't an adult. Cry harder, snowflake. : )

Who is acting like an adult in this conversaion, and who a child?

> Not surprised. You always over-complicate the simplest things, because:
> troll.

Again, acting as an adult, I explained factually that anyone seeking the
app needs to realize it's not designed for the iPad.

If you disagree, then you can do so, as an adult, by explaining why you
think it doesn't show up in the iPad section.

> Nobody in their right mind follows in your footsteps, old fart.

Think about who is acting like an adult in this thread, which is a simple
question about a simple functionality.

> Nobody cares what you report back, trollboi.

Think about who is acting like an adult here, when I simply thank you, and
tell you I will let you know of my success.

> If you are so inept that
> you can't find any of the other similar apps or solutions, then that's
> all on you.

I was trying to be supremely kind to you but all you can find in your heart
are insults.

> No doubt you'll "just give up" yet again, because: troll.

What's odd is that you act as if you're unaware that I did a *lot* of work
to get the previously suggested solution to work, which, by the way, it
does, even though it's a rudimentary solution.

Here is my first-pass test desktop, for example:
https://u.cubeupload.com/IGeG1p.png

And here is a first-pass test folder:
https://u.cubeupload.com/7pzzMC.png

The desktop works fine, as long as it's a solid color:
https://u.cubeupload.com/gFr0gg.jpg

But the folders don't (yet) work because they are a transparent color:
https://u.cubeupload.com/DnEznl.png

Even though they are a solid color also.
https://u.cubeupload.com/jPmvBS.jpg

I am working on solving that, which is why I haven't responded sooner about
that.

> Meanwhile, those of us with more productive things to do than arrange
> our icons in silly shapes will run circles around you as usual.

Again, who is being the adult here when I ask a simple technical question
for iOS, where I may need to remind you that Android does all this
natively.

I don't remind you of the ease at which Android does it - but to add depth
to your innate assumption that something so simple should take so much time
only on iOS.

>> I've jailbroken both Android and iOS devices
>
> Not in years, you haven't.

Again, that's not a correct statement since I rooted my Android phone just
last year, and it was trivial to do and trivial to look it up how to do it
since it doesn't depend on the baseband and since Google doesn't try to
stop it with every Android release.

All you do is download Kingoroot to the phone and run it, and you're
rooted.

No computer. No tether. No nothing. Download and run. Just like any other
app, and you're rooted. Voila!

> and the one time you claimed to have done it
> with iOS you admitted it took you hours upon hours just to figure out
> *how* to do it, and then you had trouble doing it, which isn't
> surprising at all considering how you faithfully over-complicate even
> the simplest things in order to troll. So predictably, you won't jail
> break, which means you won't be able to customize anything, because:
> troll.

I wrote a tutorial of all the steps, as I always do, where you seem to
forget easily the simplest of facts, which is that, for iOS, Apple keeps
breaking the jailbreaking techniques, such that each baseband and iOS
version has its own complexities.

For you to ignore that is merely you trying to make a point by fabricating
a world that doesn't actually exist. Again.

> Have fun with that. Better things to do. Bye, Felicia.

Just think about all that you wrote, and think who is being an adult and
who is being a child. Just think about it. No need to respond and waste
everyone's time, as the answer is patently obvious to all.

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In article <p9jmch$mdr$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred
<rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:

> Who is acting like an adult in this conversaion, and who a child?

the answer to that is glaringly obvious.

Ragnusen Ultred

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Am Thu, 29 Mar 2018 17:48:54 -0400, schrieb nospam:

> the answer to that is glaringly obvious.

Since you always prove you act like a child, I'll ignore your comment and
respond to Jolly Roger's suggested second app to create spacers inside of
folders for better organization on iOS than is possible by default.

1. Downloaded "IS Maker" from the iPhone section of the App Store.
Icon Skins Maker by Lemondo
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/icon-skins-maker/id427148293?mt=8
2. IS maker starts up always in portrait mode & asked for photo permission
3. Snapped a screenshot of a black background and a gray background.
4. Clicked on the "import image" button in the "Home B-G-s" section.
5. Selected the black image from the screenshots
6. Tapped the checkmark button to accept it
7. Pressed Save which saved the wallpaper to the camera roll (again)
8. Repeated steps 4, 5, 6 & 7 for the gray screenshot
9. OK. Now what?

All it did was put in my camera roll what was already in the camera roll.
I suspect this app is just a silly wallpaper app because when you look for
instructions outside of just creating a wallpaper (which anyone can do
without the app) you're told by the developer to go to either of these
sites, neither of which even exists.
http://www.lemondo.com/apps
http://www.lemondo.com/support

It's bogus almost certainly.

It appears to be for Apple users who think they're customization geniuses
if they can change their background, but it's not at all, apparently, for
doing something even as simple as creating a spacer within a folder.

Ragnusen Ultred

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SUMMARY:

The spacers work well on the home screen:
http://i.cubeupload.com/oo1lGV.png

The spacers don't work as well inside the folders:
http://i.cubeupload.com/T5ZENu.png

Nonetheless, it's far better than nothing at all.
Thanks.

Steven Petruzzellis

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That's what Vennie 'The Fool' Bowden does when he gets humiliated. He creates a nym, starts a stupid thread so he can claim it was an accident. Don't blame me it was my left hand... and then he responds to it with his right hand. For most I'd just suggest the comment is dubious. Given that it's Vennie 'The Fool' Bowden I would dump that doubt and go straight to 'ego-trip' because that's most of what he does. It is faster to assume it is a lie until proved otherwise. I still persist in being uncertain that these nonstop posts are definitely automated. Everyone is Vennie 'The Fool' Bowden -- the oldest gag in the book. Vennie 'The Fool' Bowden showed himself to be a sophist by having the pretense to not speak to Craig Wiita by broadcasting 'goodbye forever!' and then engaging him anyway via piggybacking.

Lines of text containing quotes you somehow recognize but can not place. I am not raging, in fact I'm laughing at him because Vennie 'The Fool' Bowden's lying is so clear. He actively didn't speak of all the criteria that he would quickly dismiss... and we all know why, Vennie 'The Fool' Bowden is such a moron. At least he has trolls to back him.

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Turns out the spacers don't actually work all that well in the end.
For example, turn the screen sideways, and they fail.
Update iOS, and they all go away.

So it's a bust.

Too bad. Android just works.
On Apple, it can't be done.

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Of course it can be done, and done well:

<https://www.cydiageeks.com/best-cydia-tweaks-customize-iphone-homescreen.html>

You just refuse to do it because: troll.

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Am 1 Apr 2018 04:11:09 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

> Of course it can be done, and done well:
>
> <https://www.cydiageeks.com/best-cydia-tweaks-customize-iphone-homescreen.html>
>
> You just refuse to do it because: troll.

I only speak fact, where, I would wager, I'm one of the rare people who try
to get the primitive iOS launcher to do the simplest of things that I do on
Android all the time.

Hence...

I agree with you, Jolly Roger, that the now-primitive decade-old iOS
launcher iOS isn't at all functional *until* you jailbreak it.

Then it is functional.

For example, on Android, moving icons or folders on any grid on the modern
home screen "just works", whereas the decade-old and very primitive iOS
launcher can't do it unless you jailbreak it.

Then it can do it.

Likewise, on Android, intelligent modern folder spacers "just work",
whereas you can't do that on the primitive 10-year-old iOS launcher unless
you jailbreak the device.

The iOS launcher, a decade ago, was a great idea. Then Android copied it
and improved upon it, and Apple didn't do a thing in the intervening ten
years, such that what *was* modern a decade ago for iOS, is downright
primitive now, in iOS' huge lack of basic app launcher functionality.

Unless you jailbreak the device.

Those are facts upon which we agree.

Jolly Roger

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On 2018-04-02, Ragnusen Ultred <rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:
> Am 1 Apr 2018 04:11:09 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:
>
>> Of course it can be done, and done well:
>>
>> <https://www.cydiageeks.com/best-cydia-tweaks-customize-iphone-homescreen.html>
>>
>> You just refuse to do it because: troll.
>
> I only speak fact

The pertinent fact you desperately want to ignore is it can be done on
iOS easily. You refuse to jailbreak because: troll.

Ragnusen Ultred

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Am 2 Apr 2018 15:02:44 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

> The pertinent fact you desperately want to ignore is it can be done on
> iOS easily. You refuse to jailbreak because: troll.

Android has modern app launcher functionality *without rooting!*

What's amazing about you iOS users is that you fabricate fictional iOS
functionality all the time, since it's clear that you *know* the
functionality does not exist on iOS.
*Why do iOS apologists incessantly fabricate fictional iOS functionality?*
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/K_yBNZiPFYo>

Apple Apologists not liking facts, doesn't make facts not facts.

To wit:
a. On the Android home screen, without rooting, because of modern
launchers, you can icons on *any* grid you want, of any size you want,
limited by your eyesight, for heaven's sake.
(This has huge advantages, such as this single-hand design, specifically
designed exactly to fit my left hand.)
http://i.cubeupload.com/42iU6H.png

*That's impossible on the primitive iOS launcher* without jailbreaking.

b. In the Android folders, without rooting, because of modern launchers,
you can add intelligent spaces of all sorts of functional types, where the
spacers can be named whatever you want them to be named, using any icon,
and having any functionality (e.g., folders, files, links, etc.).

*That's impossible on the primitive iOS launcher* without jailbreaking.

nospam

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Apr 2, 2018, 4:28:43 PM4/2/18
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In article <p9u3dk$u3q$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred
<rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:

> a. On the Android home screen, without rooting, because of modern
> launchers, you can icons on *any* grid you want, of any size you want,
> limited by your eyesight, for heaven's sake.

nobody but you cares.

what matters are what the apps can do, not how they're arranged on a
homescreen, and for ios, that's *much* more advanced than on android.

Jolly Roger

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Apr 2, 2018, 5:47:21 PM4/2/18
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On 2018-04-02, Ragnusen Ultred <rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:
> Am 2 Apr 2018 15:02:44 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:
>
>> The pertinent fact you desperately want to ignore is it can be done
>> on iOS easily. You refuse to jailbreak because: troll.
>
> Android has modern app launcher functionality *without rooting!*

iOS has a completely customizable springboard as well, which requires
jail breaking since most users don't need such things:

<https://www.cydiageeks.com/best-cydia-tweaks-customize-iphone-homescreen.html>

> What's amazing about you iOS users is that you fabricate fictional iOS
> functionality

Nothing in my post is fabricated. You're trolling.

> Apple Apologists not liking facts, doesn't make facts not facts.

The pertinent fact you desperately want to ignore is the iOS springboard
can be customized. You have to discount and ignore this fact because:

Jolly Roger

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Apr 2, 2018, 5:49:26 PM4/2/18
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On 2018-04-02, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <p9u3dk$u3q$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ragnusen Ultred
><rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:
>
>> a. On the Android home screen, without rooting, because of modern
>> launchers, you can icons on *any* grid you want, of any size you
>> want, limited by your eyesight, for heaven's sake.
>
> nobody but you cares.

Yep, which is evident from the distinct lack of *any* posts from
*anyone* but him about customizing the iOS springboard in the iOS
newsgroups.

> what matters are what the apps can do, not how they're arranged on a
> homescreen, and for ios, that's *much* more advanced than on android.

Yup. While he fucks around arranging his icons in the shape of Christmas
trees and circles, the rest of iOS users are getting shit done and
moving on.

dorayme

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Apr 2, 2018, 7:11:46 PM4/2/18
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In article <fiev0k...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2018-04-02, Ragnusen Ultred <rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:
> > Am 1 Apr 2018 04:11:09 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:
> >
> >> Of course it can be done, and done well:
> >>
> >> <https://www.cydiageeks.com/best-cydia-tweaks-customize-iphone-homescreen.h
> >> tml>
> >>
> >> You just refuse to do it because: troll.
> >
> > I only speak fact
>
> The pertinent fact you desperately want to ignore is it can be done on
> iOS easily. You refuse to jailbreak because: troll.

Everything the poor schmuck does is, according to your *useless*
idiocy, is because he is... troll.

--
dorayme

dorayme

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Apr 2, 2018, 7:13:10 PM4/2/18
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In article <fifmn6...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> You have to discount and ignore this fact because:
> troll.

And you have to keep saying this because: troll feeder.

--
dorayme

dorayme

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Apr 2, 2018, 7:14:00 PM4/2/18
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In article <fifmr5...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> Yup. While he fucks around arranging his icons in the shape of Christmas
> trees and circles, the rest of iOS users are getting shit done and
> moving on

But not you and nospam, you have nothing better to do.

--
dorayme

Jolly Roger

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Apr 2, 2018, 7:14:46 PM4/2/18
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Everything he does in the Apple newsgroups is done to troll them, which
anyone can see, dingbat. And you defend him because you dislike those of
us who call you out on your own trolls. You two old farts should date
before you both keel over and die. You're made for each other.

Jolly Roger

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Apr 2, 2018, 7:27:00 PM4/2/18
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On 2018-04-02, dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
And you have to say that because: troll lover.

Jolly Roger

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Apr 2, 2018, 7:27:56 PM4/2/18
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On 2018-04-02, dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
Sure we do. We're just so productive with our devices we have time for
this too, dingbat.

dorayme

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Apr 2, 2018, 7:34:53 PM4/2/18
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In article <fifrr5...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> >> The pertinent fact you desperately want to ignore is it can be done on
> >> iOS easily. You refuse to jailbreak because: troll.
> >
> > Everything the poor schmuck does is, according to your *useless*
> > idiocy, is because he is... troll.
>
> Everything he does in the Apple newsgroups is done to troll them

So what?

> And you defend him ...

More brain-damaged unreasoning from you, I am not defending him, you
moron. You can't stand it that *you* are being called out. All you
have is illogical bullshit replies and insults.

Go on, say something else stupid and irrelevant, you can't help
yourself can you?

--
dorayme

Jolly Roger

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Apr 2, 2018, 8:28:02 PM4/2/18
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On 2018-04-02, dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> In article <fifrr5...@mid.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>>> The pertinent fact you desperately want to ignore is it can be
>>>> done on iOS easily. You refuse to jailbreak because: troll.
>>>
>>> Everything the poor schmuck does is, according to your *useless*
>>> idiocy, is because he is... troll.
>>
>> Everything he does in the Apple newsgroups is done to troll them
>
> So what?
>
>> And you defend him ...
>
> More brain-damaged unreasoning from you, I am not defending him

You attack anyone who calls him out on his trolls, and you are fooling
nobody, dingbat.

> You can't stand it that *you* are being called out.

Projection.

> Go on, say something else stupid and irrelevant, you can't help
> yourself can you?

More projection.

Steven Petruzzellis

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Apr 3, 2018, 6:33:24 AM4/3/18
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I have a Ubuntu system I use as well, but it's something you would not understand. From what I've seen it looks like the Ubuntu ecosystem needs more and more resources. Spending time learning is never wasted time. Claiming you know everything and attempting to 'prove' people that it is true, as John 'The Flooder' Gohde tries to do? That is a waste. After Jesus's update I no longer have to issue 'pulseaudio -k' every time I login ;)

Just about everything John 'The Flooder' Gohde says about Jesus is a lie. Who isn't aware of this by now? Who are you even speaking to?

--
One Smart Penny
http://prescottcomputerguy.com/screenflow
http://jeff-relf.me/Cola_Regs.HTM
Jonas Eklundh

Ragnusen Ultred

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Am 2 Apr 2018 21:49:25 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

> Yep, which is evident from the distinct lack of *any* posts from
> *anyone* but him about customizing the iOS springboard in the iOS
> newsgroups.

The fewer the posts, often the more it means there is no disagreement.

Ragnusen Ultred

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Am Mon, 02 Apr 2018 16:28:42 -0400, schrieb nospam:

> nobody but you cares.
>
> what matters are what the apps can do, not how they're arranged on a
> homescreen, and for ios, that's *much* more advanced than on android.

As always, nospam, you just guess.
And you guess wrong.

People care a lot that they can't find their icons, which is one of the
major reasons Apple created that idiotic springboard design.

So people could find their shit.

Plus how many times have you seen a "junk" folder on an iOS device.
Like on most of them, right?

Why?

And, worse, what if you want to put a camera app where it belongs.
Guess what. You can't.

So what does Apple do?
They *double* the size of your dock (effectively).

Just so you can *find* stuff, they put the "most recent" apps on the dock.

You have no concept that *all* these are hacks to help people find their
shit, simply because iOS makes it miserable to put things where they belong
(e.g., you get one icon and one icon only), and to find stuff (people end
up with pages upon pages of screens and junk folders.

In short, iOS is so primitive, they *have* to add *search engines* just so
you can find your stuff.

I find that revealing.
Don't you.

nospam

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Apr 3, 2018, 10:11:52 AM4/3/18
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In article <p9vvbs$2da$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Ragnusen Ultred
<rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:

>
> People care a lot that they can't find their icons,

there is no problem 'finding icons'

Jolly Roger

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Apr 3, 2018, 12:16:32 PM4/3/18
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Nope. The *fact* is only one posting about wishing to arrange iOS icons
in the shapes of Christmas trees, circles, and other shapes is *you*.
There *are* *no* *other* posts about it, because most people have way
better things to do. You, on the other hand, live to troll the Apple
newsgroups about inconsequential shit like this 24 hours a day, 7 days a
week. You're pathetic.

Jolly Roger

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Apr 3, 2018, 12:22:19 PM4/3/18
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On 2018-04-03, Ragnusen Ultred <rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:
> Am Mon, 02 Apr 2018 16:28:42 -0400, schrieb nospam:
>
>> nobody but you cares.
>>
>> what matters are what the apps can do, not how they're arranged on a
>> homescreen, and for ios, that's *much* more advanced than on android.
>
> People care a lot that they can't find their icons

You are the only one here posting little bitch fests about being unable
to "find their icons", trollboi. You're pathetic.

dorayme

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Apr 3, 2018, 6:02:54 PM4/3/18
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In article <fifsi3...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2018-04-02, dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > In article <fifmn6...@mid.individual.net>,
> > Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You have to discount and ignore this fact because:
> >> troll.
> >
> > And you have to keep saying this because: troll feeder.
>
> And you have to say that because: troll lover.

Another wholly false bit of bullshit. It seems you cannot separate two
thoughts clearly, one about what a complete asshole you are and one
about *no love* for trolls. Something obviously happened to your brain
that cannot make it acknowledge all true things while on a mission to
attack. Too hard eh? You poor schmuck.

--
dorayme

dorayme

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Apr 3, 2018, 6:03:42 PM4/3/18
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In article <fifsjq...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2018-04-02, dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > In article <fifmr5...@mid.individual.net>,
> > Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yup. While he fucks around arranging his icons in the shape of
> >> Christmas trees and circles, the rest of iOS users are getting shit
> >> done and moving on
> >
> > But not you and nospam, you have nothing better to do.
>
> Sure we do. We're just so productive with our devices we have time for
> this too, dingbat.

An idiot like you, productive? Sure!

--
dorayme

dorayme

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Apr 3, 2018, 6:06:51 PM4/3/18
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In article <fig04h...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2018-04-02, dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > In article <fifrr5...@mid.individual.net>,
> > Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>> The pertinent fact you desperately want to ignore is it can be
> >>>> done on iOS easily. You refuse to jailbreak because: troll.
> >>>
> >>> Everything the poor schmuck does is, according to your *useless*
> >>> idiocy, is because he is... troll.
> >>
> >> Everything he does in the Apple newsgroups is done to troll them
> >
> > So what?
> >
> >> And you defend him ...
> >
> > More brain-damaged unreasoning from you, I am not defending him
>
> You attack anyone who calls him out on his trolls, and you are fooling
> nobody, dingbat.
>

That is not defending him, you moron. Still don't get it do you? And I
am not trying to fool anyone, you dolt.

--
dorayme

Jolly Roger

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Apr 3, 2018, 7:01:52 PM4/3/18
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dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> In article <fig04h...@mid.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-04-02, dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> In article <fifrr5...@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> The pertinent fact you desperately want to ignore is it can be
>>>>>> done on iOS easily. You refuse to jailbreak because: troll.
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything the poor schmuck does is, according to your *useless*
>>>>> idiocy, is because he is... troll.
>>>>
>>>> Everything he does in the Apple newsgroups is done to troll them
>>>
>>> So what?
>>>
>>>> And you defend him ...
>>>
>>> More brain-damaged unreasoning from you, I am not defending him
>>
>> You attack anyone who calls him out on his trolls, and you are fooling
>> nobody, dingbat.
>
> That is not defending him

It’s close enough, dipshit. You’re friendly with the asshole troll and a
jerk to anyone who calls him out.

Jolly Roger

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Apr 3, 2018, 7:01:52 PM4/3/18
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dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> In article <fifsjq...@mid.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-04-02, dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> In article <fifmr5...@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yup. While he fucks around arranging his icons in the shape of
>>>> Christmas trees and circles, the rest of iOS users are getting shit
>>>> done and moving on
>>>
>>> But not you and nospam, you have nothing better to do.
>>
>> Sure we do. We're just so productive with our devices we have time for
>> this too, dingbat.
>
> An idiot like you, productive? Sure!

Exceptionally productive. I’m paid very well for my tech skills. : ) I run
circles around you and your BFF troll Ragnusen, you ancient shriveled
bitch.

Jolly Roger

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Apr 3, 2018, 7:02:07 PM4/3/18
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dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> In article <fifsi3...@mid.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-04-02, dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> In article <fifmn6...@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You have to discount and ignore this fact because:
>>>> troll.
>>>
>>> And you have to keep saying this because: troll feeder.
>>
>> And you have to say that because: troll lover.
>
> Another wholly false bit of bullshit.

The troll-loving cunt doth protest too much, me thinks.

Ragnusen Ultred

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Apr 3, 2018, 8:29:08 PM4/3/18
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Am 3 Apr 2018 23:02:04 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

> The troll-loving cunt doth protest too much, me thinks.

Again, I *love* when Jolly Roger posts, because he is the perfect person to
explain to the rest of us how the mind of the average iOS user works.

People like nospam are too clever to ever tell the truth.

But Jolly Roger isn't clever in the least, so, what he posts is *actually*
exactly how he thinks.

I find what he reveals to be enlightening because I have always assumed he
has the mindset of the average iOS user.

Ragnusen Ultred

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Apr 3, 2018, 8:29:10 PM4/3/18
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Am 3 Apr 2018 16:16:30 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

> Nope. The *fact* is only one posting about wishing to arrange iOS icons
> in the shapes of Christmas trees, circles, and other shapes is *you*.
> There *are* *no* *other* posts about it, because most people have way
> better things to do. You, on the other hand, live to troll the Apple
> newsgroups about inconsequential shit like this 24 hours a day, 7 days a
> week. You're pathetic.

What I love about you, Jolly Roger, is that your every post gives me a
glimpse into the mind of the average iOS user.

You fail to comprehend that many Android launchers have options galore for
organizing a desktop.

Do you think they put those options there for no reason?

Or, is it far more likely, that you, as the representative of the average
iOS user, have never once ever thought about home-screen organization?

--
Think before you reply as the answer is already obvious to all.

Ragnusen Ultred

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Apr 3, 2018, 8:29:11 PM4/3/18
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Am 3 Apr 2018 23:01:51 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

> Exceptionally productive. I¢m paid very well for my tech skills. : ) I run
> circles around you and your BFF troll Ragnusen, you ancient shriveled
> bitch.

This is why I *love* Jolly Roger when he posts!

He provides a perfect example of the mentality of the average iOS user.

Ragnusen Ultred

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Apr 3, 2018, 8:33:10 PM4/3/18
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Am 3 Apr 2018 23:01:51 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

> It¢s close enough, dipshit. You¢re friendly with the asshole troll and a
> jerk to anyone who calls him out.

What's interesting, is that Jolly Roger has the mindset of the average iOS
user, where every fact is instantly met with emotional hatred.

Jolly Roger

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Apr 3, 2018, 9:01:37 PM4/3/18
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On 2018-04-04, Ragnusen Ultred <rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:
> Am 3 Apr 2018 16:16:30 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:
>
>> Nope. The *fact* is only one posting about wishing to arrange iOS icons
>> in the shapes of Christmas trees, circles, and other shapes is *you*.
>> There *are* *no* *other* posts about it, because most people have way
>> better things to do. You, on the other hand, live to troll the Apple
>> newsgroups about inconsequential shit like this 24 hours a day, 7 days a
>> week. You're pathetic.
>
> You fail to comprehend that many Android launchers have options galore for
> organizing a desktop.

You fail to comprehend that most iOS users have no need for optional
galore. And you refuse to jail break to customize your own iPad,
and pretend it's not possible because: troll.

dorayme

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Apr 3, 2018, 10:31:04 PM4/3/18
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In article <fiifeu...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> >> You attack anyone who calls him out on his trolls, and you are fooling
> >> nobody, dingbat.
> >
> > That is not defending him
>
> It’s close enough, dipshit. You’re friendly with the asshole troll and a
> jerk to anyone who calls him out.

Not even close, moron. Oh, and criticising you is completely
inconsistent with jerkdom ...

--
dorayme

dorayme

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Apr 3, 2018, 10:33:45 PM4/3/18
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In article <fiifev...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:


> Exceptionally productive. I’m paid very well for my tech skills. : ) I run
> circles around you and your BFF troll Ragnusen, you ancient shriveled
> bitch.

Says the boastful bully boy hypocrite.

--
dorayme

dorayme

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Apr 3, 2018, 10:35:22 PM4/3/18
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In article <fiiffc...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
...
>
> The troll-loving cunt doth protest too much, me thinks.

A repeated false assumption from your filthy mouth.

--
dorayme

Ragnusen Ultred

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Apr 3, 2018, 11:10:20 PM4/3/18
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Am 4 Apr 2018 01:01:36 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

> You fail to comprehend that most iOS users have no need for optional
> galore. And you refuse to jail break to customize your own iPad,
> and pretend it's not possible because: troll.

What you fail to comprehend, Jolly Roger, is that, with respect to
organization, the iOS device is a prison cell where the Apple Warden
doesn't allow any customization by the user.

What's obvious is that you're very comfortable in that prison cell.

Jolly Roger

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Apr 4, 2018, 1:28:12 AM4/4/18
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Ragnusen Ultred <rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:
> Am 4 Apr 2018 01:01:36 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:
>
>> You fail to comprehend that most iOS users have no need for optional
>> galore. And you refuse to jail break to customize your own iPad,
>> and pretend it's not possible because: troll.
>
> What you fail to comprehend, Jolly Roger, is that, with respect to
> organization, the iOS device is a prison cell where the Apple Warden
> doesn't allow any customization by the user.

The fact is that most iOS users get shit done without arranging their
desktops in the shapes of Christmas trees and circles, while you complain
endlessly about being unable to find your apps without such silliness.

> What's obvious is that you're very comfortable in that prison cell.

The fact that you are the *only* person posting about such silliness is all
we need to know. You’re a useless troll who just gives up while the rest of
us use our devices productively.

Jolly Roger

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Apr 4, 2018, 1:28:13 AM4/4/18
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You deserve every bit of filthiness coming your way. Eat shit, dingbat.

Jolly Roger

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Apr 4, 2018, 1:35:50 AM4/4/18
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Says the bully troll lover. Bullies love to claim they are the victims.

Jolly Roger

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Apr 4, 2018, 1:41:53 AM4/4/18
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dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> In article <fiifeu...@mid.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>>> You attack anyone who calls him out on his trolls, and you are fooling
>>>> nobody, dingbat.
>>>
>>> That is not defending him
>>
>> It’s close enough, dipshit. You’re friendly with the asshole troll and a
>> jerk to anyone who calls him out.
>
> Not even close, moron.

Your record of attacking anyone who calls out your BFF troll is here for
all to see, you old foolish curmudgeon.

dorayme

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Apr 4, 2018, 7:30:10 PM4/4/18
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In article <fij63b...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > In article <fiiffc...@mid.individual.net>,
> > Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > ...
> >>
> >> The troll-loving cunt doth protest too much, me thinks.
> >
> > A repeated false assumption from your filthy mouth.
>
> You deserve every bit of filthiness coming your way. Eat shit, dingbat.

Unlike a lovely individual like you that can think of little else
except hurling insults when confronted with being called out on your
character defects. There is a little else that is not really so
little: you started boasting about how productive you in a recent
post, a sure sign that you have no real confidence in yourself. You
did this with me about a year ago too, blowing your own trumpet after
hurling abuse.

Evidence of your extreme dysfunction goes under your radar. Of course!

--
dorayme

dorayme

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Apr 4, 2018, 7:34:47 PM4/4/18
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In article <fij6hl...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > In article <fiifev...@mid.individual.net>,
> > Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Exceptionally productive. I’m paid very well for my tech skills. : ) I run
> >> circles around you and your BFF troll Ragnusen, you ancient shriveled
> >> bitch.
> >
> > Says the boastful bully boy hypocrite.
>
> Says the bully troll lover. Bullies love to claim they are the victims.

They also like to puff up their chests to hide their stinking
shrivelled selves. Btw, who is claiming victimhood? Is this just some
cliche your foul brain involuntarily spewed up?

--
dorayme

dorayme

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Apr 4, 2018, 7:36:44 PM4/4/18
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In article <fij6sv...@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> dorayme <do_r...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > In article <fiifeu...@mid.individual.net>,
> > Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>> You attack anyone who calls him out on his trolls, and you are fooling
> >>>> nobody, dingbat.
> >>>
> >>> That is not defending him
> >>
> >> It’s close enough, dipshit. You’re friendly with the asshole troll and a
> >> jerk to anyone who calls him out.
> >
> > Not even close, moron.
>
> Your record of attacking anyone who calls out your BFF troll is here for
> all to see, you old foolish curmudgeon.

So what, does not make me a troll lover. But you simply can't see
that. For you it is "close enough". That might have something to do
with that your mouth and your arse are not very far apart.

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Steven Petruzzellis

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Apr 4, 2018, 8:07:00 PM4/4/18
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By listening to 'lawyers' like that you get laws like 'liberalism'. Carried to its (il)logical resolution, the concept that it's 'gross' for a straight normal guy to not wish to date a child is instituted. Lots of advocates are posting about the GNU/Linux "desktop" as if they think it truly is a goal of the community.

Gee, imagine Shawn Ulman Scam Artist trying to pin his gobbledegook on me or others, no one has ever seen that before <eyeroll>. I am not angry, in fact I am in stitches because Shawn Ulman Scam Artist's trolling is so obvious. He purposefully didn't speak of all the specifications that he would later insist are needed... and we all know why. At least he has his own socks to back him.

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Steven Petruzzellis

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Apr 5, 2018, 2:50:12 AM4/5/18
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On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 4:34:47 PM UTC-7, dorayme wrote:
He'd have to be afflicted with a form of insanity to be unsure of whether or not he "once had" purchased a program. When Shawn Ulman Scam Artist can not remember his past claims and utilizes pretend, self-esteem protecting tripe later, it's very clear what his error is. Despite my knowledge of Debian, I even now continue to load it for newbies who've had complications with Windows 8, especially if I have learned that they are not very competent at running multiple programs and balancing resources.

At times, fantasy is more valuable than reality. I'm not going to pretend bartc didn't save my bacon on my network and I am thankful for his advice. Shawn Ulman Scam Artist has this thread to examine and should start to seem like he grew a brain from this day forward... but he missed that opportunity when he trolled bartc ;)

What is Shawn Ulman Scam Artist's method for the flooding insanity? Access? That is the only language he knows, or admits to. He must be abusing it to create these idiotic "flooding" garbage posts. Here is my idea, Shawn Ulman Scam Artist took a FireFox extension that he reverse engineered and blamed bartc for... he's feeding it Google Groups data, grabbing random paragraphs, then editing those using the Viterbi algorithm and then he hand posts them because his lack of work enables him to do that almost 24/7.

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Steven Petruzzellis

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Apr 5, 2018, 8:50:06 AM4/5/18
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Outright tripe by an uneducated, fabricating, scheming, colluding laughingstock who would not be honest if his life depended on it. A constant, fervid, posting itch, despite nothing to say - essentially slippery snake prostitutes, and well-lubricated sheep, tied up with ropes for his own immoral desires. I would help Allah at once but he is a blockhead who screws around to implement his aspiration to call everyone a fool.

Allah and Bill Cunningham both lie endlessly and flagrantly and continue to do so. So no incentive in showing any further care or judiciousness. Just hogwash from him. But Allah has left tech behind and is just holding me accountable for the words of himself.

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Ragnusen Ultred

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Apr 8, 2018, 9:06:27 PM4/8/18
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Am 4 Apr 2018 05:28:10 GMT, schrieb Jolly Roger:

> The fact is that most iOS users get shit done without arranging their
> desktops in the shapes of Christmas trees and circles, while you complain
> endlessly about being unable to find your apps without such silliness.
>
>> What's obvious is that you're very comfortable in that prison cell.
>
> The fact that you are the *only* person posting about such silliness is all
> we need to know. You¢re a useless troll who just gives up while the rest of
> us use our devices productively.

I think it's illuminating how you, Jolly Roger, have no comprehension of
what "organization" even means.

It's like you're in flatland.

You can't comprehend a third dimension.

What's interesting is that you're an average iOS user, so, what you're
really telling us all is that the average iOS user doesn't comprehend even
the /simplest/ of basic concepts.

Ragnusen Ultred

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Apr 8, 2018, 9:12:58 PM4/8/18
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Am Thu, 05 Apr 2018 09:36:41 +1000, schrieb dorayme:

>> Your record of attacking anyone who calls out your BFF troll is here for
>> all to see, you old foolish curmudgeon.
>
> So what, does not make me a troll lover. But you simply can't see
> that. For you it is "close enough". That might have something to do
> with that your mouth and your arse are not very far apart.

What I find enlightening is that Jolly Roger is the archetypical iOS user,
where the fact that Jolly Roger is incapable of hiding his true feelings is
what is so very illuminating when he posts.

Jolly Roger can only punch buttons.
Yet, Jolly Roger gets upset when that fact is pointed out to him.

How does Jolly Roger respond to that fact?
He hurls insults at the person presenting him with those facts.

Do all iOS users act this way?
Certainly all the classic dozen or so Apple Apologists do.

Why?
Ah. That's psychology.

I posit that people like Jolly Roger gravitate to Apple systems because
they can't think for themselves. I posit that they want Apple to do the
thinking for them. In wanting to desperately believe in everything Apple
tells them, they turned their brains off long ago.

When confronted with facts, they hurl childish insults at those facts.

It's their innate *defense mechanism* to protect them from facts.
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