He who is Snit said on Thu, 12 Oct 2017 10:32:55 -0700:
> As I said in my video, I would be happy if you had altered your voice.
I have a current thread on how to obfuscate voice on the Windows newsgroup.
What is the canonical voice-altering (obfuscation) freeware on Windows?
My voice is 100% recognizable to the many people who know me.
Just like this one is (8.22 MB audio MP3 file):
https://files.fm/u/7c6qkc22
So I have to make it unrecognizable. Here's my first attempt, which isn't
all that good (yet) at making that voice unrecognizable. 11.7MB MP3
https://ufile.io/k6s79
I used the suggested GoldWave software to obfuscate that voice recording:
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http://www.goldwave.com/release.php/>
But in hind sight, GoldWave wasn't much different from Audacity freeware:
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https://sourceforge.net/projects/audacity/>
> the main point was to see if you could show the screen while we hear the
> computer and your voice. It was not about the quality of your voice or how
> well produced the video is. I have more experience and I likely have easier
> to use tools but they are on the desktop. If I had fully edited that on iOS
> that might be a relevant issue... but I did not.
I have to admit I'm impressed that you're different than the other iOS
apologists in that you seem to have the capacity to comprehend facts.
So I can't really call you an iOS apologist since you *can* handle facts.
The others *still* can't comprehend that what you (and they) had *thought*
was signal strength, is decidedly not (it was just a mere speedtest). I had
known that all along but I had to wait until I could make the recording
that you so very much wanted to see.
> I used ScreenFlow with one of the standard audio filters built into macOS...
> cannot even recall which one. The software I use is pretty darn good
> (ScreenFlow) but it is not on iOS and thus not relevant here.
The recording, to me, was not necessary to prove the point, since my point
was pretty simply obvious (it's in the subject line for example).
But for some reason, you greatly cared about the video recording. I didn't
even know that recording on Android was supposed to be a problem since it
was that easy for me (I had set it up long ago so all I did was press the
RecMe button to start and stop the recording and then slide the file over
to Windows after mounting my Android phone on the Windows file system over
the WiFi LAN because my USB port is kaput).
The only reason it took me a while to upload the video recording was that I
didn't know how to edit the video to redact the SSID and BSSID information.
It turns out that the technique of using Shotcut freeware to place XXXX
text of the same font color and background color did the trick.
In the first recording (Fritz), the grandkids were making a fuss in the
background, so that's mostly why I added the sound track. In the second
recording (WiFi Analyzer), I didn't touch the sound track (I could easily
have removed it but I left it since you seemed to care so very much about
it). As you can see from the screenshots, I have *plenty* of other WiFi
utils which I *wish* were available to me on iOS.
Remember, I have both iOS and Android and I just want them both to be
functional. I don't like one or the other.
I just want both iOS and Android to do things for me.
> Say you wanted to make a video showing someone how to transfer files to/from
> the Android device... to do this you would want to be able to show the
> Android device screen, the desktop screen (with the relevant program you are
> using), and your voice. You would also want to be able to blur things out
> and show where your mouse pointer is as well as where you are touching on
> the Android device.
I don't have this need so I will just mention that there are *plenty* of
programs which interface the desktop to the mobile phone. I'm not going
down that road because it's not something I ever want to do.
All I want I already have, which is to mount the file system seamlessly
with the desktop file system. Seamless file system mounting is all I care
about when interfacing a desktop to a mobile device.
Your desktop-to-mobile needs may/will differ.
> The software I use even has what they call "touch callouts" where I can add
> one or more "touch points" and then animate them to an end-point. I am not
> really fond of that feature and for single touches I like my method of
> having my larger, easier to see mouse pointer move to whichever device I am
> using.
You have to realize that was my very first video.
If I was in the habit of making videos, I'd learn how to highlight what the
user is doing on the mobile device. I don't have that need, so I won't
learn how to do it as the method I used (of adding text boxes to the video)
is "good enough" for government work.
But if you have desktop software that you can leverage to the group
(generally that means freeware that is cross platform, like Shotcut is),
then by all means let folks know.
The whole point is to always increase the tribal knowledge of the group as
a whole with every post.
> Oh, and I have a custom ring-tone for my family. It works about 2/3 of the
> time. We have tested this: Phone sitting there, untouched... call from
> another phone -- get the right ringtone. Call again. And Again. Do that six
> times. On average about two of the six times it will use the "standard" ring
> tone and not the custom.
I'm not sure what you mean by the "ringtone works about 2/3 of the time" as
I also have custom ringtones for my entire family.
They work just fine for me, each one saying "Jane is calling", "Bill is
calling", "Susan is calling", etc.
Since I *always* increase the tribal knowledge of the group with each of my
threads (knowledge and leverage is my gig), I long ago already wrote up how
to do that on Android using freeware so that anyone can do it.
Custom "jane is calling" ringtones using Songify & Ringdroid
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https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/Ncs-dfqMQxk/g3a9BTY9AAAJ>
As that original post says, the freeware I've used are Songify:
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smule.songify>
And Ringdroid:
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ringdroid>
The great thing about freeware is that it does everything I need, and, it
is easily leveraged so that everyone else can do whatever I can do.
> Rebooted and it at least now seems better... but at this point I do not
> trust the device at all.
Heh heh ... I have all Google Framework services turned off, Google Play
disabled, all GPS spying turned off, all advertising IDs completely wiped
off the Android phone, etc. (which is yet *another* set of things you just
can't do with iOS but which is *easy* to do with Android), and impossible
to do on iOS
. Remove the Google Play account on Android (versus iCloud account on iOS)
. Remove the Advertising ID on Android (it's impossible on iOS)
I already can tell you what the iOS apologists will say about the above,
since we've had the discussion in the past on this very newsgroup where the
iOS apologists are again dead wrong on all accounts.
> I do have an iPod Touch, and it is a much faster device (also a lot more
> expensive). My main use of the Android device is as a phone and to turn on
> the Wi-FI hotspot so I can use my Touch on the go.
I have plenty of iPods too. I haven't looked it up yet, but since I listen
to hours-long documentaries on the iPod that I've downloaded off of
YouTube, I wonder if you know, offhand, how to skip forward in an MP3 file
on an iPod?
BTW, in the interest of always increasing the knowledge level of the group
with every post, to download your video off of Youtube was as easy as
running this command:
youtube-dl.exe -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0
https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo
> Oh, and unless I manually set the damned thing on battery saver mode every
> time I unplug it, it still often (though not always) drains the battery in a
> few hours. Cannot even last a day UNUSED.
That's what I love about phones like mine which have a removable battery.
I have an entire thread on all the ways you can charge batteries, where I
can charge a half dozen (if I want) simultaneously for my Android phone.
None of that functionality is possible for my Apple iOS devices.
> I have no issue with people liking Android more. Heck, if I had a higher end
> Android device I might like it more. I do get that part of the problems I am
> having is the Android device is a low end one... of course it is not going
> to compete well with an iPhone or even my iPod Touch.
I misread you in that I thought you were a typical iOS apologist who can't
comprehend facts. You didn't at first comprehend the facts, but you seem to
be able to actually comprehend facts.
It's therefore important for me to bother to tell you that you have it
wrong that you keep assuming that I don't like iOS and I like Android.
It's not that I like or don't like either one. I just know facts about
them. They are just cold hard facts. It's not a like or not like issue with
me as it is with the iOS apologists who are so threatened by facts that,
even now, they can't comprehend the simple facts that you seem to have
comprehended in this thread alone.
All I do is speak facts about iOS and facts about Android.
Both are great. Both suck.
It's not a matter of whether I like one or the other any more than it's a
matter that I like one of my kids or grandkids more than one or the other.
Some of my kids play football (e.g., the boys) and some of them can't
(e.g., the girls). It's not that I like the boys any more or less because
they can play football better than the girls. It's just a fact that they
do.
It's the same with iOS and Android.
It's just a fact that there's no known app functionality on iOS that
Android doesn't already have, and that Android has app functionality that
iOS doesn't have (e.g., the ability to graph Wi-Fi signal strength over
time).
The iOS apologists hate facts, so that factual statement doesn't sit well
with them - but it's just a cold hard fact just like it's a cold hard fact
that the tooth fairy doesn't exist.
The iOS apologists keep asking me to prove there's no tooth fairy, and I
tell them to just show me some functionality that is inherently on Apple
iOS mobile devices that isn't already on Android mobile devices (all by
their itty bitty selves) - and all they can come up with is meaningless
brand names and trademarks - which just shows that they can't comprehend
even the question since they can't think outside of the box Apple Marketing
built for them to live inside.
We've had that discussion a zillion times though where the iOS apologists
can't handle facts, so let's not go there again unless you can claim a
single functionality that unjailbroken Apple iOS mobile devices have all by
their itty bitty selves that Android devices don't already have.
Notice once you jailbreak an iOS device, you gain tremendous functionality,
so it's not the hardware that is crippling the app functionality on iOS
devices. The hardware on Apple mobile devices is on par with the best
hardware on Android devices (they fluctuate but overall they're all about
the same, which again, we've proven time and again where only the Apple
apologists don't understand that cold hard honest fact.)
HINT: Almost all the flame wars throughout Usenet history are initiated,
propagated, and perpetuated by the Apple apologists simply because they
just can't handle cold hard facts. It's just how they're wired.
You seem to be different from the iOS apologists.
You seem to be able to actually comprehend facts.
> Sounds like you want to use your mobile device almost as a desktop
> replacement. That is very different from my use. We will end up with
> different preferences in, if nothing else, how we use such devices.
I don't think that's a fair assessment since a desktop and a mobile device
are, essentially, two different beasts.
I just want my mobile device to do things, many of which aren't scripted
already for me by some marketing guy trying to make a buck off of me.
Remember, turn off all Google spyware that I know about, so I don't even
own a Google account on my Android phones. I don't have an advertising ID.
I search, play, and even download YouTube videos on my Android device
without *ever* seeing an advertisement ... oh ..
Oh, that reminds me. Here's *another* thing that is trivial on Android and
impossible on iOS devices.
. Search and watch YouTube video for free without ever seeing an ad
. Downloading the video or extracting the audio from the same GUI
And, I think (but I have to doublecheck if iOS can't do this)
. Rotate the screen based on app choices alone (software switch)
. Disable the Internet (not just cellular data) by app (software switch)
You see? Very many things that are trivial to do on Android are simply
impossible on iOS.
I already know what the iOS apologists will say because they just make
everything up, which is that "I" don't know how to do it - and yet - nobody
on the iOS newsgroups can do the things I bring up.
That's exactly what *this* thread is all about.
If you could get iOS to graph WiFi signal strength over time, you'd have
shown it to me by now.
The difference between you and the iOS apologists (nospam, Jolly Roger,
Lewis, JF Mezei, etc. is that they simply make up the fictional iOS
functionality. You did too, but you were simply mislead.
As the saying goes, unintended ignorance can be fixed but purposeful deceit
can't be fixed. The iOS apologists knowingly make up fictional iOS
capabilities that never existed. You don't seem to be doing that.
The iOS apologists make up fictional iOS functionality.
Bear in mind that not every iOS Usenet poster is an iOS apologists.
For example, Michelle, Patty Winter, Erilar, Poutnik, etc., are not iOS
apologists. They're just iOS users.
Not only do iOS apologists make up fictional iOS functionality, but they
also constantly insist that the absence of any proof that iOS can't do so
many things doesn't mean it can't do it. Um. OK. How do they what me to
prove that the tooth fairy doesn't exist?
The iOS apologists' *entire* fictional iOS functionality argument is based
completely on the "tooth fairy" defense.
> And that is fine. Where I have an issue with your claims is when you deny
> iOS can do ANYTHING that Android can and hold to that even when given
> examples, when you claim the hardware is the same even though most sites put
> the CPUs in iPhones as being well ahead of the competition, when you insist
> that iPhones are not often in the top ten of cameras when your own source
> shows 5 of the top 10 cameras it lists as being different iPhones, etc.
Every time we have gone down this route of "examples" of "funcdtionality"
that iOS reputedly has that Android doesn't have, I have to spend time and
energy refuting the claims, since all the iOS people can do is talk about
meaningless brand names like "airdrop" and "continuity", neither of which
is the iOS device "all by its itty bitty self" anyway.
I never once said that Apple doesn't have a walled garden-ecosystem when it
comes to working with Mac desktops and Apple mobile devices (but then try
to extend that to Linux and watch what happens).
What I have often asserted is that nobody has yet ever shown a single app
functionality on the iOS device (all by its itty bitty self) that isn't
already on Android.
Name just one and don't name a silly meaningless brand name.
Name the *functionality* that the brand name or trademark is "doing".
I'll show you that the functionality you name is already on Android.
The logic is inescapably simple - where all the iOS apologists can do is
regurgitate meaningless marketing brand names (which is the only way their
feeble brains can operate).
Just name a single functionality.... just one ... that's all it takes (and
that's all I have the energy for to refute ... so pick your best one ...
Name a single app functionality that is on any current iOS device that
isn't already on any current Android device.
HINT: I already know the marketing bs path the iOS apologists will go on,
so, I want *you* to name the app functionality. Not the idiot apologists.
Remember, we're always talking:
1. The device ... all by its itty bitty self (not a desktop or cloud)
2. Not jailbroken or rooted (since that's the entire point)
3. App functionality - which means it reports something useful to the user
...optionally...
4. Preferably free (so that we can test it - but it's OK if it's not free)
> You have a strong preference and bias. OK. But try to use reason and logic
> and understand how others might see things differently.
You make the mistake again and again.
I only speak facts.
It's not that I like my female grandchildren better or worse because the
boys play football better than they do.
It's just a fact that the boys can do things that the girls just can't do.
If there was something the girls could do that the boys can't do, like
making babies, that's also a fact.
So it's a fact, for example, that iOS is fundamentally different with
respect to access to the file system than is Android.
That's just a fact.
Just like it's a fact that girls can make babies and boys can't.
But in general, boys can do everything that girls can do (except biological
things) while there is plenty that girls can't do (like play football and
win against really formidable other boys).
It's just a fact.
In the same sense, it's just a fact that Android apps can functionally do
more than iOS apps can, and it's just a fact that nobody yet has shown any
app functionality that non-jailbroken Apple mobile devices can do all by
their itty bitty selves that isn't already available on Android devices.
If you can name a fact of what things girls inherently can do (all by their
itty bitty selves) that boys inherently can't do, then I'm all ears (other
than stuff related to making and feeding babies).
Likewise, if you can name a fact of what iOS apps can do that Android apps
don't already do ... just name one iOS app functionality ... and I'll show
you how Android can do it (since we've been down this path so very many
times). Don't name brand names or trademarks and don't do ecosystem stuff.
I never was talking about the ecosystem since that's locked up on purpose
by Apple and it doesn't work outside the ecosystem so it's not the real
world.
Just name a single app functionality that *you* can do with your itty bitty
iOS device that I can also do on my itty bitty iOS device that I can't also
do on my itty bitty Android device.
Name just one.
> I do not have a high end iOS device nor a high end Android device.
I have iPads and Android phones, all of which are old.
I buy iPhones but I give them as gifts to kids who don't live with me so I
don't always have access to iPhones but I always have access to iPads.
> I do like
> how I can have the newest OS for a longer time on iOS (heck, many new
> Android devices do not come with the newest) but I have no dog in this
> race... I am happy both exist. I am happy there is competition.
You have to realize that I know iOS users better than they know themselves,
so I'm not surprised you're bamboozled by the mere number line
hallucinations that *all* iOS users seem to be mesmerized by.
Remember, my five year old Android phone stuck forever on Android 4.3 has
plenty of app functionality that my iPads on the latest iOS can't hope to
have.
For the iOS users, they're stuck in this hallucination that a simple
ever-changing number line of iOS release versions is somehow (magically?)
imparting some kind of mysterious app functionality.
C'mon. Slap yourself awake. Having a never ending series of numberline
releases of iOS gives you *zero* additional functionality over Android.
Functionalty is not a number line. If iOS 10.0 were named iOS 10,000.0, the
iOS user would *feel* updated - but it would be the very same iOS.
Don't be fooled by a never-ending series of meaningless updates.
That's a very clever marketing trick that Apple successfullly uses on
almost all its customers - so I grant you that it's clever that people
*feel* better by having numbers constantly tick upward on their iOS
devices.
But if we limit our discussion to functionality, your *next* iOS device
still won't have the app functionality that an Android device of five years
ago had.
I realize this is a hard fact for you to swallow, so it may actually be
impossible for me to explain to you well enough for you to comprehend that
you're all mesmerized by a number line. Apple knows its customers very
well. They know the customer *loves* the number line!
Look at the device functionality ... not the number line version please.
> I think iTunes tries to do too much... music, videos, iOS connection, ties
> to Apple music and radio and whatever other offerings (which more and more
> it pushes when I just want to get to a podcast). Even worse, it handles some
> of these tasks poorly... it is a pretty crappy podcast tool, for example, in
> terms of allowing you to sort and select well. And it is far from a great
> audiobook tool.
Don't even get me started on (desktop) iTunes please.
And anyway, since we're limiting this app functionality discussion to the
itty bitty device, the (iOS) iTunes app that comes with the mobile device
isn't the same thing as the desktop thing of the same name anyway.
So iTunes (either iOS or desktop) plays no role when we discuss mobile
device app functionality.
> I wish Apple would split it into multiple programs, even if tied together as
> a suite.
Thank God they got rid of Quicktime, where it was funny to read over the
years all of the iOS apologists' insistences that it was "necessary" but
let's not go there again as we beat that horse dead long ago.
(desktop) iTunes is an abomination and besides, this discussion is about
iOS app functionality, not about desktop functionality or proprietary
ecosystem functionality which never works in the real world.
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I commend you for being of the rare few here who can comprehend facts.