44% of iPhone users pine for expandable storage while 75% want longer battery life

[Arlen Holder]

The biggest repeatable desire, by far, was battery life, with the desire
for expandable storage at a bit less than half the iPhone users, and the
return of the headphone jack for a bit more than a third of the iPhone
users.

Dunno how reliable these statistics are (reference at the end).
75% of iPhone users want longer battery life
66% of iPhone users want a stronger screen
44% of iPhone users want expandable storage
39% of iPhone users want to listen on headphones while charging
37% of iPhone users want the headphone jack back
29% of iPhone users want USB-C instead of the proprietary jack
19% of iPhone users want FaceID to work
18% of iPhone users want faster app refresh
10% of iPhone users want the iPhone X notch deleted

"This SurveyMonkey Audience survey was conducted online from Aug. 17-21,
2018, with 1,665 adults ages 18 or older living in the United States.
Respondents for these surveys were selected from more than 2 million people
who take surveys on the SurveyMonkey platform each day. The modeled error
estimate for the full sample is plus or minus 3 percentage points."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/09/04/apple-iphone-improvements-these-3-people-really-want/1186614002/

[joe]

This was not a survey of iPhone users. Therefore every line you wrote is
a misrepresentation.

[Your Name]

On 9/4/2018 11:41 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> The biggest repeatable desire, by far, was battery life, with the desire
> for expandable storage at a bit less than half the iPhone users, and the
> return of the headphone jack for a bit more than a third of the iPhone
> users.
>
> Dunno how reliable these statistics are (reference at the end).
> 75% of iPhone users want longer battery life

Battery technology is still in the stone age. You aren't going to get
longer battery life until someone comes up with a brand new battery
technology, or until wireless electricity transfer (via things like
lampposts) is available EVERYWHERE.

> 66% of iPhone users want a stronger screen

Don't sit on your mobile phone.

> 44% of iPhone users want expandable storage

You can already get lots of external storage systems, both plug-in and
wifi. Just delete the pile of pointless crap you keep on your mobile
phone.

> 39% of iPhone users want to listen on headphones while charging

Already possible via adapters.

> 37% of iPhone users want the headphone jack back

Never going to happen.

> 29% of iPhone users want USB-C instead of the proprietary jack

Never going to happen.

> 19% of iPhone users want FaceID to work

Never going to happen.

> 18% of iPhone users want faster app refresh

Faster than what?? Wait for the iPhone 34 when you can connect it
directly into your brain (although the people who repsonded to the
survey obviously don't have one anyway).

> 10% of iPhone users want the iPhone X notch deleted

Never going to happen - where are they going to put the camera for all
those fools who want to take 'selfies' every five seconds?

> "This SurveyMonkey Audience survey was conducted online from Aug. 17-21,
> 2018, with 1,665 adults ages 18 or older living in the United States.
> Respondents for these surveys were selected from more than 2 million people
> who take surveys on the SurveyMonkey platform each day. The modeled error
> estimate for the full sample is plus or minus 3 percentage points."
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/09/04/apple-iphone-improvements-these-3-people-really-want/1186614002/
>

Wow! A whole 1,665 people surveyed ... that's going to mean absolutely
nothing when you consider there are reportedly 700,000,000 iphones in
use around the world. It's not even 0.001% of users. Just yet another
useless "survey".

[nospam]

In article <pmmrvi$1tje$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name

<Your...@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Battery technology is still in the stone age. You aren't going to get
> longer battery life until someone comes up with a brand new battery
> technology, or until wireless electricity transfer (via things like
> lampposts) is available EVERYWHERE.

nonsense. battery technology is very advanced and continues to improve.

everyone wants longer battery run times, but the reality is that it
only needs to last a day or two because people charge their phones at
night.

> > 19% of iPhone users want FaceID to work
>
> Never going to happen.

wrong on that too. it already happens and it too continues to improve.

face id works exceptionally well, but nothing is 100% perfect in every
case. people fat-finger passwords, or worse, forget them.

face id is in its 1st generation. the next generation is just 8 days
away...

[Arlen Holder]

On 4 Sep 2018 12:44:33 GMT, joe wrote:

> This was not a survey of iPhone users. Therefore every line you wrote is
> a misrepresentation.

You know, joe, you're right!
Whatever new features Apple announces next week, these 3 are the ones that really matter
<https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/09/04/apple-iphone-improvements-these-3-people-really-want/1186614002/>

I take every post in the way it was intended, where, if Jolly Roger or
Lewis had made that sophomoric mistake, I would have reamed them for being
stupid. So thanks for letting me know in a way that an adult would act.

* I publicly admit you are right. I was wrong.*

To be fair, I was slightly suspect about the divination of the statistics,
as it was USA TODAY after all (and I even said "dunno how reliable" it
was). But when I summarized the statistic, I failed to grasp that they were
talking about percentages of "all" mobile phone owners.

I admit I didn't read for comprehension. I fell for the click bait.
(To be fair, I didn't put a lot of time into it either - but still - your
point is valid. Something like this happened once before when I didn't
check the date of a news article - which I now doublecheck before posting).

What happened, I think, is I fell for the "click bait" in my morning news.

I got there from Google, clicking on the my morning news for Apple, and the
title of the article puts Apple in the name, and the graphic was all Apple
phones, and the text mentioned Apple iPhones.

Since Apple is poised to be big news, I suspect USA Today needed click bait
so that's why *they* put Apple all over that article (graphic, title,
etc.), but in reality, you are right - that was a survey of about 1500
owners of "cell phones" (both Android & Apple).

My bad.
Mea culpa.

Thanks for pointing out my mistake.
Much appreciated.

I will try to be more careful in the future as a result since I value my
stellar credibility.

--
Changing subject line accordingly so that my mistake is obvious to all.

[Arlen Holder]

On 4 Sep 2018 14:03:48 GMT, Your Name wrote:

> Battery technology is still in the stone age. You aren't going to get
> longer battery life until someone comes up with a brand new battery
> technology, or until wireless electricity transfer (via things like
> lampposts) is available EVERYWHERE.

I first want to point out that joe kindly clarified that I mistook the
article for an Apple-only survey - but it was a survey of both Android &
iPhone users, hence of not much value for iPhone owners alone.

As for the battery, while technology is what it is, *size* can always
easily be doubled or tripled.

If you saw my photos in the past of my Samsung Galaxy S3 with the 7,200mAh
battery with antenna replacing the original puny 2100mAh battery with
antenna, you'd see that it's not difficult in the least to extend battery
capacity to double or triple the current capacities.

Just as European cars are typically smaller than American vehicles (from my
observation traveling in some European countries), the battery size is due
to other factors (such as style) which aren't related to capacity itself.

Hence, if we wanted triple the battery capacity, all we'd need is a bigger
battery (which I was very happy with on my S3 for example).

>> 66% of iPhone users want a stronger screen
>
> Don't sit on your mobile phone.

I'd wager, from personal experience anyway, that most people add a good
case, which adds, oh, I don't know, about 20 to 25 bucks to the price of
the phone. For my $130 LG Stylo 3 Plus phones, that an appreciable
percentage of the cost of the phone (about 20% of the cost of the phone, if
you include the thin glass screen protector).
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9512087glass.jpg>

Interestingly, that screen protector is actual tempered *glass*.
Very thin. Very brittle (ask me how I know).

I'm surprised it's glass and not a hard plastic.

>> 44% of iPhone users want expandable storage
>
> You can already get lots of external storage systems, both plug-in and
> wifi. Just delete the pile of pointless crap you keep on your mobile
> phone.

Agreed that a lot of phones are easily 64-bit now (e.g., my $130 LG Stylo 3
Plus is 64GB plus it now has *plenty* of expandable storage space, where
you can now use the sdcard as the main storage on Android where you can
insert up to 2TB cards of *main* storage (effectively) on this phone!
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3526788flash04.jpg>

These are puny 64GB cards, which are only $16 each at Frys
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=1450594sdcard02.jpg>
& Costco:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2449004flash03.jpg>

In the future, this very $130 phone can have internal storage (not
expandable, but internal) of "up to 2TB", in effect. Sure, it's going to be
slower than normal "real" internal storage - but with a faster card, it may
or may not be all that much slower.

For example, I wonder, if I put in the fastest 128GB card sold today, I
could expand the "internal storage" (not expandable storage) to double the
64GB the phone came with (that's storage for all the apps I've added and
their data, other than the built-in apps, which always seem to stay on the
"real" internal storage).

That's a very nice feature if the sdcards are fast enough since it doubles
the internal storage effectively (if it's fast enough to work well).

>> 18% of iPhone users want faster app refresh
>
> Faster than what?? Wait for the iPhone 34 when you can connect it
> directly into your brain (although the people who repsonded to the
> survey obviously don't have one anyway).

I think they meant "updates", but they didn't really explain what they
meant so it was a bad article.

>> 10% of iPhone users want the iPhone X notch deleted
>
> Never going to happen - where are they going to put the camera for all
> those fools who want to take 'selfies' every five seconds?

Personally, I never use the front camera - but I agree a lot of people do.
Sigh.

> Wow! A whole 1,665 people surveyed ... that's going to mean absolutely
> nothing when you consider there are reportedly 700,000,000 iphones in
> use around the world. It's not even 0.001% of users. Just yet another
> useless "survey".

Worse. That survey, as joe kindly pointed out, was apparently *all* phone
users (both Android & iOS).

So that makes it less useful for sure - since the two types are different.

[Arlen Holder]

On 4 Sep 2018 14:23:18 GMT, nospam wrote:

> nonsense. battery technology is very advanced and continues to improve.
>
> everyone wants longer battery run times, but the reality is that it
> only needs to last a day or two because people charge their phones at
> night.

I have a handful of LG Styo 3 Plus batteries such that I can go on a
camping trip without having to bring *anything* else but the phone and
batteries.

No solar charger. No USB charger. No electrical cables. Nothing but
batteries. That's a nice feature of a phone that allows you to easily pop
in a new battery at will, don't you think? :)

Plus, as you are well aware, I accomplished the same thing on my S3 when I
put in a 7200mAh battery to replace the puny 2100mAh originals. You can
easily charge batteries in a battery charger outside the phone, so you can
charge as many batteries as you like simultaneously.

I did it all the time and it's *very* (very) convenient to have a handful
of batteries on hand.

From what you write, you think everyone has a robotic schedule where
charging a phone overnight works, which, I'm sure, works for plenty of
people but it's far too restrictive *for zero added value*.

Why not just be able to keep a handful of charged batteries on hand?
Why not just be able to pop in a batter double or triple capacity?

Don't say it can't be done - because I did it for years.
It's *very* convenient to have such *flexibility* & power at hand.

[joe]

On 9/4/2018 5:09 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On 4 Sep 2018 14:03:48 GMT, Your Name wrote:
>
>> Battery technology is still in the stone age. You aren't going to get
>> longer battery life until someone comes up with a brand new battery
>> technology, or until wireless electricity transfer (via things like
>> lampposts) is available EVERYWHERE.
>
> I first want to point out that joe kindly clarified that I mistook the
> article for an Apple-only survey - but it was a survey of both Android &
> iPhone users, hence of not much value for iPhone owners alone.

What said it was a survey of phone users?

<snip>

>
> Worse. That survey, as joe kindly pointed out, was apparently *all* phone
> users (both Android & iOS).
>

Wrong again.

[nospam]

In article <pmn0gj$3us$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder

<arlen...@nospam.net> wrote:

> I have a handful of LG Styo 3 Plus batteries such that I can go on a
> camping trip without having to bring *anything* else but the phone and
> batteries.

no different than any other phone or tablet or even laptop.

bring a usb power pack and not only can you charge a phone, but also
multiple other devices, including other phones, tablets, cameras,
laptops and other products.

here's a 10,000mah pack:
<https://d2211byn0pk9fi.cloudfront.net/spree/products/69188/product/A126
3011_TD03_V1.jpg>

and if that's not enough, try 54,000mah:
<https://chargetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/PLUGIMG2.jpg>

[Elden]

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 09:03:48 +1200, Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com>
wrote:

>> 39% of iPhone users want to listen on headphones while charging
>
>Already possible via adapters.

Or better yet... if you don't have wireless headphones, then get a
wireless charger. Problem solved.

--
-=Elden=-

[nospam]

In article <4cbuodhmea7shhtj5...@4ax.com>, Elden

<use...@moondog.org> wrote:

>
> >> 39% of iPhone users want to listen on headphones while charging
> >
> >Already possible via adapters.
>
> Or better yet... if you don't have wireless headphones, then get a
> wireless charger. Problem solved.

even better, get *both* wireless headphones *and* a wireless charger.

welcome to the future.

[Your Name]

Or you can get a wireless adapter that you plug the headphones into,
which then uses a wireless connection to the phone and leaves the
phone's connector for charging.

[nospam]

In article <pmnd0f$k7m$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name

<Your...@YourISP.com> wrote:

>
> Or you can get a wireless adapter that you plug the headphones into,
> which then uses a wireless connection to the phone and leaves the
> phone's connector for charging.

no point in that.

[Savageduck]

On Sep 4, 2018, Your Name wrote
(in article <pmnd0f$k7m$1...@gioia.aioe.org>):

...or buy Lightning earphones such as the RAYZ which have an inline
Lightning-USB connector for charging.

<https://www.pioneerrayz.com>

--

Regards,
Savageduck

[nospam]

In article <0001HW.213F7C7B00...@news.giganews.com>,

Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> > > > > 39% of iPhone users want to listen on headphones while charging
> > > >
> > > > Already possible via adapters.
> > >
> > > Or better yet... if you don't have wireless headphones, then get a
> > > wireless charger. Problem solved.
> >
> > Or you can get a wireless adapter that you plug the headphones into,
> > which then uses a wireless connection to the phone and leaves the
> > phone's connector for charging.
>
> ...or buy Lightning earphones such as the RAYZ which have an inline
> Lightning-USB connector for charging.

or simply not worry about it, since it's very rare that people actually
need to do both at the same time.

in normal use, any recent iphone will last at least a full day on a
single charge. plug it in overnight while sleeping.

an iphone x can play audio for up to 60 hours on a single charge and
can be charged to 50% in just a half-hour, for 30 additional hours of
listening time.