Why does Jolly Roger habitually fabricate quoted content?

[Stijn De Jong]

Why does Jolly Roger habitually fabricate quoted content?

Here, for example, is a classic Jolly Roger troll process that happened
moments ago:

a. This is the original message id:
Message-ID: <o94f3c$ksn$1...@gioia.aioe.org>

b. This is the Jolly Roger response with fabricated quoted content:
Message-ID: <ehm393...@mid.individual.net>

c. Look at the messages here to see his classic fabrication process:
http://al.howardknight.net/

He has fabricated quoted content hundreds upon hundreds of times, in almost
every thread he populates. All of us generally ignore his utter
fabrications, but ignoring him isn't enough since he continues to fabricate
quoted content in almost every thread he populates.

Why does he incessantly fabricate quoted content, and then respond to that
fabricated quoted content, and then call others trolls in the process?

[Jolly Roger]

Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
> Why does Jolly Roger habitually fabricate quoted content?

Only your trollish content full of lies and mischaracterizations of what
others have said here. What's the matter, weakling? Can't take what you
dish out? Suck it up, snowflake troll. : D

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

[Lewis]

In message <ehm96p...@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
>> Why does Jolly Roger habitually fabricate quoted content?

> Only your trollish content full of lies and mischaracterizations of what
> others have said here. What's the matter, weakling? Can't take what you
> dish out? Suck it up, snowflake troll. : D

Seems about time for the idiot troll to nymshit. He seems to do it just
about the time I graduate from killing his posts to killing all
followups as well.

Which I am doing now.

And no, Nymshit is not a tyop.

--
BEWITCHED DOES NOT PROMOTE SATANISM Bart chalkboard Ep. 2F17

[Alan Browne]

On 2017-02-28 16:42, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
>> Why does Jolly Roger habitually fabricate quoted content?
>
> Only your trollish content full of lies and mischaracterizations of what
> others have said here. What's the matter, weakling? Can't take what you
> dish out? Suck it up, snowflake troll. : D

He hit my KF about 3 seconds after his first post. I was on a call at
the time or it would have been quicker.


--
"If war is God's way of teaching Americans geography, then
recession is His way of teaching everyone a little economics."
..Raj Patel, The Value of Nothing.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2017-03-01, Alan Browne <alan....@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-02-28 16:42, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
>>> Why does Jolly Roger habitually fabricate quoted content?
>>
>> Only your trollish content full of lies and mischaracterizations of what
>> others have said here. What's the matter, weakling? Can't take what you
>> dish out? Suck it up, snowflake troll. : D
>
> He hit my KF about 3 seconds after his first post. I was on a call at
> the time or it would have been quicker.

Same here; but that hasn't stopped others from responding.

[Stijn De Jong]

On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:21:18 -0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:

> And no, Nymshit is not a tyop.

Eloquence is not your strong point it seems.

[Stijn De Jong]

On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 19:19:27 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

> He hit my KF about 3 seconds after his first post. I was on a call at
> the time or it would have been quicker.

Did you come up with that explanation all by yourself?

Each of you iOS users is in one of three categories but you head the list!
alan browne
ant
bernd frohlich
bobbyk
chris
david empson
davoud
dorayme
erilar
jf mezei
jolly roger
lewis
michelle
nospam
patty winters
poutnik
rod speed
savageduck
sms
w wesley groleau
yourname

[Stijn De Jong]

On 1 Mar 2017 00:40:56 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Same here; but that hasn't stopped others from responding.

What's telling is your potty-mouthed explanation posted today at:
Message-ID: <ehm6cn...@mid.individual.net>

http://al.howardknight.net/

Verbatim:
"only after you start insulting iOS uses and purposely
mischaracterize what others say here in response to your lame trolls. Say
it isn't so! The Apple-hating dimwit troll can't take his own medicine? : D
suck it up, snowflake."

[Stijn De Jong]

On 28 Feb 2017 21:42:49 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> Why does Jolly Roger habitually fabricate quoted content?
>
> Only your trollish content full of lies and mischaracterizations of what
> others have said here. What's the matter, weakling? Can't take what you
> dish out? Suck it up, snowflake troll. : D

It's telling your answer is nothing but potty-mouthed insults befitting of
neither explanation nor excuse.

[Patty Winter]

In article <ehmjkn...@mid.individual.net>,

Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>On 2017-03-01, Alan Browne <alan....@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>> He hit my KF about 3 seconds after his first post. I was on a call at
>> the time or it would have been quicker.
>
>Same here; but that hasn't stopped others from responding.

I do not understand why so many regulars in this group keep responding
to that guy every time he starts a new thread. What do they hope to
gain? It only encourages him.

[Stijn De Jong]

On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 03:57:11 -0000 (UTC), Patty Winter wrote:

> I do not understand why so many regulars in this group keep responding
> to that guy every time he starts a new thread. What do they hope to
> gain? It only encourages him.

You've responded to me very many times.
You just don't know it.

And Michelle gave me my news reader license.

I have both of you squarely in the typical iOS user category, where you're
very nice all the time, and you ask on topic questions and answer them with
a measure of accuracy which is befitting of your innate intelligence.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2017-03-01, Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
> On 1 Mar 2017 00:40:56 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Same here; but that hasn't stopped others from responding.
>
> What's telling is

What's telling is you're a crybaby troll who can't take his own
medicine. WAHHHH!!! Cry harder, dimwit! : D

[Jolly Roger]

Cry harder, Nancy.

[Jolly Roger]

History shows he changes his nym regularly to avoid kill filters,
virtually guaranteeing that some poor unsuspecting sod who isn't aware
of what he is doing will reply. So he pollutes the news group whether or
not the regulars respond, spewing misinformation and lies which are
again read by unsuspecting victims. Regulars respond to point out the
lies and misinformation.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2017-03-01, Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 03:57:11 -0000 (UTC), Patty Winter wrote:
>
>> I do not understand why so many regulars in this group keep responding
>> to that guy every time he starts a new thread. What do they hope to
>> gain? It only encourages him.
>
> You've responded to me very many times.
> You just don't know it.

And he's proud of that fact. He's proud that his regular nym switching
fools people. He's proud of that because he wants you to read his
self-masturbatory posts where he insults and belittles Apple users. He's
proud of disrupting an otherwise peaceful news group. Upsetting people
is how he gets his thrills. Just pathetic.

[dorayme]

In article <o95gqm$80q$2...@dont-email.me>,

They do it because he does not properly analyse what little cowards he
is dealing with, people who seem to enjoy attacking weaker folk
anonymously.

--
dorayme

[Alan Browne]

++++

[FPP]

On 2017-03-01 04:54:33 +0000, Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> said:

> On 2017-03-01, Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 03:57:11 -0000 (UTC), Patty Winter wrote:
>>
>>> I do not understand why so many regulars in this group keep responding
>>> to that guy every time he starts a new thread. What do they hope to
>>> gain? It only encourages him.
>>
>> You've responded to me very many times.
>> You just don't know it.
>
> And he's proud of that fact. He's proud that his regular nym switching
> fools people. He's proud of that because he wants you to read his
> self-masturbatory posts where he insults and belittles Apple users. He's
> proud of disrupting an otherwise peaceful news group. Upsetting people
> is how he gets his thrills. Just pathetic.

Please... let him rant.

At least this way, he's not off abusing small animals in real life.
--
"Tinkle, tinkle little Czar, Putin put you where you are." -George Takei

[Stijn De Jong]

On 1 Mar 2017 04:49:06 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> What's telling is you're a crybaby troll who can't take his own
> medicine. WAHHHH!!! Cry harder, dimwit! : D

:)

This is the first post I've read this morning, hence I thank you for such
an erudite morning-coffee introduction to your Usenet personality.

[Stijn De Jong]

On 1 Mar 2017 04:49:46 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> It's telling your answer is nothing but potty-mouthed insults befitting of
>> neither explanation nor excuse.
>
> Cry harder, Nancy.

Did you fabricate quoted content just so that you could "appear" to be
witty?

[Stijn De Jong]

On Wed, 01 Mar 2017 17:37:00 +1100, dorayme wrote:

>> I do not understand why so many regulars in this group keep responding
>> to that guy every time he starts a new thread. What do they hope to
>> gain? It only encourages him.
>
> They do it because he does not properly analyse what little cowards he
> is dealing with, people who seem to enjoy attacking weaker folk
> anonymously.

Why do you post anonymously FPP?
What are you afraid of?
Why not just tell us your real name?
Why does anyone here post anonymously (e.g., nospam)?
Why don't they post using their real name & real address?

You fail to understand that simple question.

You must know by now that I've supplied thousands of pictures of where I
live, what I do, what equipment I have, and how I use it, so, if there is
anyone here who is not anonymous, it would be me.

I never hide who I am, and I never fabricate quoted content.
That would be dishonest.

I only change privacy headers to foil machine aggregation, but I am never
dishonest by fabricating content like Jolly Roger habitually does.

Think about that before you write what you just wrote.

What I do is privacy (and I state it openly).
What Jolly Roger does is secretly fabricate content (and he hides that fact
but does it constantly and continues to do it).

Jolly Roger can't be trusted to tell the truth.

[Stijn De Jong]

On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 08:32:54 -0500, FPP wrote:

> Please... let him rant.

It's not a rant; it's a question of ethics.

Jolly Roger habitually changes the quoted content just so that he can
respond to that fabricated quoted content in a way that makes him feel
better but which is disingenuous and impolite to the core to his audience,
which is all of you.

Certainly every time he has done this to me, I know about it (because I
wrote the content) but how many times has he done that to you and the
others?

Who knows because Jolly Roger's ethics know no lower bounds.

The question is why is he so often so dishonest to you, his peers?

[Stijn De Jong]

On 1 Mar 2017 04:52:29 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> History shows he changes his nym regularly to avoid kill filters,
> virtually guaranteeing that some poor unsuspecting sod who isn't aware
> of what he is doing will reply. So he pollutes the news group whether or
> not the regulars respond, spewing misinformation and lies which are
> again read by unsuspecting victims. Regulars respond to point out the
> lies and misinformation.

Think about which is worse from a "trust" standpoint:
a. Someone who openly explains what he does & where the content is never
altered.
b. Someone who fails to explain his action & where the content is altered.

Here we have you, who habitually fabricates quoted content that you then
respond to, and me, who only changes privacy headers and never the content
(nor my identity).

Let's be fair and ask each other the most important question of WHY?

Q: Why do I change header content?
A: I never hide who I am in the body (and, in fact, I supply tremendous
information); but I change headers for privacy reasons.

Q: Why does Jolly Roger habitually change quoted content & then respond?
A: ?

[Stijn De Jong]

On 1 Mar 2017 04:54:33 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> And he's proud of that fact. He's proud that his regular nym switching
> fools people. He's proud of that because he wants you to read his
> self-masturbatory posts where he insults and belittles Apple users. He's
> proud of disrupting an otherwise peaceful news group. Upsetting people
> is how he gets his thrills. Just pathetic.

I've explained many times (more than anyone else would bother to) why I
change headers for privacy reasons and how I change headers in that I only
change headers where the header isn't needed since the only line that
matters is the subject line (because I only ask questions that are
technical and factual and operational).

I'm always either trying to understand iOS, or its users.

In addition, my data is always the same (same phone, same iPads, same
versions of the operating system, same screenshots, same polite responses
to posts, same everything).

That you fail to recognize half or more of my threads is odd since I make
no attempt whatsoever to change my style between threads.

I've given out so much information, in fact, about me, that it makes me
smile every time you and Lewis gloat that you know where I live (as if
having posted probably a thousand pictures makes it even remotely
difficult).

What amazes me in a comical way is how you miss more than half, but when
you see the other quarter, you gloat as if you've accomplished a detective
coup.

I do thank you very much for supplying morning humor to the group overall,
but this thread isn's about your humor.

It's about why you purposefully change quoted content and then immediately
respond to that purposefully changed quoted content.

You've done this so many times that nothing you write can be trusted.
*Why do you habitually fabricate quoted content?*

[Jolly Roger]

On 2017-03-01, Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:

> On 1 Mar 2017 04:54:33 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> And he's proud of that fact. He's proud that his regular nym switching
>> fools people. He's proud of that because he wants you to read his
>> self-masturbatory posts where he insults and belittles Apple users. He's
>> proud of disrupting an otherwise peaceful news group. Upsetting people
>> is how he gets his thrills. Just pathetic.
>

> I'm always either trying to understand iOS, or its users.

You're always antagonizing and belittling iOS and its users, often
deliberately mischaracterizing what they say in response to your trolls,
because it gives you pleasure, like the sick man-child you are.

[Stijn De Jong]

On 1 Mar 2017 18:53:20 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> I'm always either trying to understand iOS, or its users.
>
> You're always antagonizing and belittling iOS and its users, often
> deliberately mischaracterizing what they say in response to your trolls,
> because it gives you pleasure, like the sick man-child you are.

I hope you see the humor of accusing others of mischaracterization while
you yourself habitually fabricate quoted content (that you then reply to,
as if the conversation ever occurred).

[Jolly Roger]

Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:

> On 1 Mar 2017 18:53:20 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>>> I'm always either trying to understand iOS, or its users.
>>
>> You're always antagonizing and belittling iOS and its users, often
>> deliberately mischaracterizing what they say in response to your trolls,
>> because it gives you pleasure, like the sick man-child you are.
>
> I hope you see the humor of accusing others of mischaracterization

You started it, and now when you get a taste of your own medicine you cry
like the sick little man-child you are. Pathetic troll.

[Stijn De Jong]

On 1 Mar 2017 20:21:19 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> You started it, and now when you get a taste of your own medicine you cry
> like the sick little man-child you are. Pathetic troll.

I have to laugh.

I started it?

Heh heh ... How?

By telling the facts about what iOS can do and can't do?

Because you don't like the facts, you fabricate contrary quoted content?

[Jolly Roger]

Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:

> On 1 Mar 2017 20:21:19 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> You started it, and now when you get a taste of your own medicine you cry
>> like the sick little man-child you are. Pathetic troll.
>
> I have to laugh.

It's all you can do, troll. Meanwhile the rest of us are laughing *at* you.

> I started it?

You've been lying and misrepresenting what people here say in response to
your lame trolls from the very beginning. And once you get a taste of your
own medicine you start crying like the huge man-child you are. You're a
pathetic troll.

> Heh heh ... How?
>
> By telling the facts

Your so-called facts are lies and opinions.

[Stijn De Jong]

On 2 Mar 2017 01:25:16 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Your so-called facts are lies and opinions.

Heh heh ... your words sound familiar in the news.

How could [North Korea] lie so completely?':
Meet the North Korean defectors
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2016/aug/27/north-korea-defectors-ian-birrell

[Jolly Roger]

On 2017-03-02, Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
> On 2 Mar 2017 01:25:16 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Your so-called facts are lies and opinions.
>
> Heh heh

Troll.

[Erilar]

Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2017-03-02, Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
>> On 2 Mar 2017 01:25:16 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>>> Your so-called facts are lies and opinions.
>>
>> Heh heh
>
> Troll.
>

Is this a new troll or a new alias?

--
biblioholic medievalist via iPad

[Jolly Roger]

On 2017-03-03, Erilar <dra...@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2017-03-02, Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>> Heh heh
>>
>> Troll.
>
> Is this a new troll or a new alias?

It's the same troll with a new nym. He's gone by numerous nyms in the
past. I've got a running list of some of them (with some of his trollish
friends included, no doubt). I'm sure you will recognize a few of them:

Paul B. Andersen
Adair Bordon
Liam O'Connor
Juan Camilo Blanco
Alphonse Arnaud
Danny D.
Vinny Perado
Whitney Ryan
Tony Cito
Adam H. Kerman
Werner Obermeier
Steven Bornfeld
Winston_Smith
Mitch Kaufmann
Paul M. Cook
E. Robinson
Alice J.
P. Ng
Tam Nguyen
VPN user
Joe Clock
Marob Katon
Chris Rangoon
AArdvarks
Conradt
Gustl Hoffmann
Henry Jones
Tatsuki Takahashi
AL
Horace Algier
Karl Schultz
Arthur Conan Doyle
Algeria Horan
Horace Algier
Raymond Spruance III
Martin Chuzzlewit II
John Harmon
Yanis Bernard
Stijn De Jong

And of course he's about due for another nym change shortly.

[Savageduck]

That list is valid with three exceptions.
1: "AL" is not one of the nym-shifter's aliases and should be removed
from your list.
2: You can add "Abe Swanson" to the list.
3: Along with AArdvarks he also used "Aarvarks".

...and, Yup! A newcomer with a seemingly innocent bait question should
be with us soon.
--
Regards,

Savageduck

[Jolly Roger]

Well he's there for a good reason. He likely participated in one of the
troll's threads in a way that supported the troll while disparaging iOS
users in general. I honestly don't care enough about his posts to recall
the particular reason at this point.

> 2: You can add "Abe Swanson" to the list.

Thanks. Added.

> 3: Along with AArdvarks he also used "Aarvarks".

Yeah, thanks. I didn't bother listing those permutations for brevity.
There are also multiple fake email addresses associated with some of
these, like "Algeria Horan".

> ...and, Yup! A newcomer with a seemingly innocent bait question should
> be with us soon.

Count on it. : )

[Stijn De Jong]

On 3 Mar 2017 19:37:34 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Well he's there for a good reason. He likely participated in one of the
> troll's threads in a way that supported the troll while disparaging iOS
> users in general. I honestly don't care enough about his posts to recall
> the particular reason at this point.

This statement is why I enjoy observing your behavior the most.

Your logic appears to be that this "AL" at some point, supported what is
always a factual and logical argument, hence, he's a troll.

Hmmmm... interesting.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2017-03-04, Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
> On 3 Mar 2017 19:37:34 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Well he's there for a good reason. He likely participated in one of the
>> troll's threads in a way that supported the troll while disparaging iOS
>> users in general. I honestly don't care enough about his posts to recall
>> the particular reason at this point.
>
> This

Troll.

[FPP]

On 2017-03-02 01:25:16 +0000, Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> said:

> Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
>> On 1 Mar 2017 20:21:19 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>>> You started it, and now when you get a taste of your own medicine you cry
>>> like the sick little man-child you are. Pathetic troll.
>>
>> I have to laugh.
>
> It's all you can do, troll. Meanwhile the rest of us are laughing *at* you.

You know who else is laughing, don't you... yup... the North Korean
Ambassador, that's who!

Yessiree....
--
"We have to accept that the winner of this election was a Washington
outsider who no one thought had a shot at running this country:
Vladimir Putin - Stephen Colbert

[Jolly Roger]

On 2017-03-05, FPP <fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2017-03-02 01:25:16 +0000, Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> said:
>
>> Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
>>> On 1 Mar 2017 20:21:19 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>
>>>> You started it, and now when you get a taste of your own medicine you cry
>>>> like the sick little man-child you are. Pathetic troll.
>>>
>>> I have to laugh.
>>
>> It's all you can do, troll. Meanwhile the rest of us are laughing *at* you.
>
> You know who else is laughing, don't you... yup... the North Korean
> Ambassador, that's who!
>
> Yessiree....

Mmmm... And we can but hope both of them choke to death on their own
spittle while doing so. : )

[Stijn De Jong]

On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 07:31:12 -0500, FPP wrote:

> You know who else is laughing, don't you... yup... the North Korean
> Ambassador, that's who!

Heh heh heh ... thank you for the first morning chuckle.

[Stijn De Jong]

On 5 Mar 2017 15:57:24 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Mmmm... And we can but hope both of them choke to death on their own
> spittle while doing so. : )

Heh heh ... as a typical Apple iOS user, you really shine with vitriol.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2017-03-06, Stijn De Jong <stijnd...@nlnet.nl> wrote:
> On 5 Mar 2017 15:57:24 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Mmmm... And we can but hope both of them choke to death on their own
>> spittle while doing so. : )
>
> Heh heh ... as a typical Apple iOS user

Troll.