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badgolferman

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Feb 9, 2019, 8:15:45 PM2/9/19
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A class action suit has been filed that accuses Apple's two-factor
authentication of being too disruptive to users, taking too much time out
of a user's day when it is needed, and abusive since it can't be rolled
back to a less safe login method after 14 days.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/02/09/apple-being-sued-because-two-factor-authentication-on-an-iphone-or-mac-takes-too-much-time/amp/

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I don’t like two factor authentication and wish I could roll it back, but
there’s no option to do that now. Maybe this lawsuit will give us that
option someday.

nospam

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Feb 9, 2019, 8:32:20 PM2/9/19
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In article <q3nu00$euo$1...@news.albasani.net>, badgolferman
<REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A class action suit has been filed that accuses Apple's two-factor
> authentication of being too disruptive to users, taking too much time out
> of a user's day when it is needed, and abusive since it can't be rolled
> back to a less safe login method after 14 days.
>
> https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/02/09/apple-being-sued-because-two-factor-
> authentication-on-an-iphone-or-mac-takes-too-much-time/amp/

yet another stupid lawsuit.

his claim is that it takes 2-5 minutes, which is utter bullshit.

appleinsider timed it at 22 seconds, which is longer than usual. last
time i did it, it was maybe 10 seconds. it's also done once to trust a
device, not every single time.

> 媼媼-
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> I don箃 like two factor authentication and wish I could roll it back, but
> there箂 no option to do that now.

two factor should be mandatory everywhere. with all the numerous data
breaches, people would be protected.

> Maybe this lawsuit will give us that
> option someday.

it won't and almost certainly will never be heard in court, it's that
stupid of a lawsuit, and the lawyers who filed it should be immediately
disbarred. they have wasted far more time than two-factor ever would.

arlen holder

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Feb 9, 2019, 9:10:22 PM2/9/19
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 01:15:44 +0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:

> A class action suit has been filed that accuses Apple's two-factor
> authentication of being too disruptive to users, taking too much time out
> of a user's day when it is needed, and abusive since it can't be rolled
> back to a less safe login method after 14 days.

Offhand...
I admit zero empirical experience with two-factor authentication (2FA).
o I readily admit I don't even use a PIN code lock on my phone.
o Nor do I bother to use the fingerprint sensor as such.

Yet ... I'd like to ask a question ... but only of open minded people:

Q: What would be _different_ about Android versus Apple 2FA?

That is, why is Apple being sued, and, for example, not Google?
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Now I read the article which has 5 legal claims, it seems:
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1. Apple isn't getting user *consent* to enable 2FA
2. Simultaneously, Apple requires a trusted device/number + a password
NOTE: Those are two independent complaints, which happens a lot in law.
3. Apple is violating the California Invasion of Privacy Act
4. Apple is violating the California Computer Crime Code
5. Apple is violating the Computer Fraud & Abuse Act

1. DETAILS REGARDING THE CONSENT CLAIM:
A. On or about Sept 2015, 2FA was "enabled" which required explicit consent
B. Apple sends an email which is insufficient warning of irrevocability

2. DETAILS REGARDING THE COMPLEXITY CLAIM:
A. Enter password on device 1
B. Enter password on device 2 which MUST be connected to the Internet
C. (Optional) Select "Trust"
D. Wait for & receive 6-digit code on device 2
E. Enter six-digit code on device 1

3. DETAILS REGARDING THE PRIVACY ACT:
A. California Penal Code 630 et seq.
B. Lack of consent for Apple to intercept & make inaccessible device 1
C. Apple obtains personal information by becoming a man in the middle

4. DETAILS REGARDING COMPUTER CRIME CODE:
A. California Penal Code 502
B. Apple interferes with login access to device 1
C. Apple does this by "altering the computer system"
D. Apple did this on purpose to "wrongfully control" device 1
E. Losses resulted

5. DETAILS REGARDING COMPUTER FRAUD & ABUSE ACT:
A. 18 USC 1030 et seq.
B. Device 1 is used for interstate commerce and/or communications
C. Apple intentionally accessed device 1
D. Apple obtained personal information about activities on device 1
E. Apple intentionally locked out the user from device 1
F. Apple damaged device 1 without the users' consent
G. Apple did not provide a chance to opt out of this intentional damage
H. Apple has harmed user & has obtained personal information as a result

Whew.
They're essentially independent complaints (which is normal in law).

Having only skimmed the complaint, I would like to ask the question of
open-minded intelligent adults on this newsgroup, after admitting I
have zero experience with two-factor authorization on iOS or Android:

Why Apple, that is...
Q: What would be _different_ between Android versus Apple 2FA?

Lewis

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Feb 10, 2019, 2:08:09 AM2/10/19
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In message <090220192032275524%nos...@nospam.invalid> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> two factor should be mandatory everywhere. with all the numerous data
> breaches, people would be protected.

Not as long as companies will use SMS as one of the factors.

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