Does the iTunes app store have any free disk encryption container software?

[arlen holder]

Does the iTunes app store have any free disk encryption container software?
(like all other platforms already certainly have, such as Veracrypt)

1. iOS = ?
2. Android = yes
3.. Windows = yes
4. Linux = yes
5. Mac = yes

Is iOS the _only_ common consumer platform sans this free useful utility?

[nospam]

In article <q4itfa$9sf$1...@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder

<ar...@arlen.com> wrote:

> Does the iTunes app store have any free disk encryption container software?
> (like all other platforms already certainly have, such as Veracrypt)

encryption is built into ios, therefore everything is encrypted.

> 1. iOS = ?
> 2. Android = yes
> 3.. Windows = yes
> 4. Linux = yes
> 5. Mac = yes
>
> Is iOS the _only_ common consumer platform sans this free useful utility?

no, it's the only one that has encryption as part of the os itself.

[arlen holder]

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 09:04:11 -0500, nospam wrote:

> encryption is built into ios, therefore everything is encrypted.

Hi nospam,

*Stop proving you own a completely imaginary belief system nospam!*
o Just stop.

The ability to read/write to/from encrypted container files on iOS is _not_
"built into" iOS (or any operating system, for that matter), nospam.

We can easily & freely create a set of encrypted container files on _any_
platform (other than iOS) and then we can easily & freely _use_ those
encrypted container files on all platforms (other than iOS), nospam.

Just _some_ of the *free* apps that handle cross platform container files are...

o Android
EDS (Encrypted Data Store)
<http://sovworks.com/eds/>
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sovworks.eds.android>

o Windows
Veracrypt
<https://launchpad.net/veracrypt/trunk/1.23/+download/VeraCrypt%20Setup%201.23-Hotfix-2.exe>

o Mac
Veracrypt
<https://launchpad.net/veracrypt/trunk/1.23/+download/VeraCrypt_1.23.dmg>

o Linux
Veracrypt
<https://launchpad.net/veracrypt/trunk/1.23/+download/veracrypt-1.23-setup.tar.bz2>

For iOS, you can _begin_ to obtain functionality with two payware apps:
o Disk Decipher:
<http://disk-decipher.hekkihek.nl/>
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/disk-decipher/id516538625?mt=8>

o Crypto Disks:
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/crypto-disks-store-private/id889549308>

> no, it's the only one that has encryption as part of the os itself.

Hi nospam,

LOOK at the subject line, nospam.
o Then _comprehend_ what cross-platform encrypted containers are, nospam.

It's _easy_ to find *free* encryption container software for all but iOS.
Hence, the question remains open and unanswered as yet:

Q: *Does the iTunes app store have any _free_ disk encryption container software?*

You're talking above about a _different_ encryption than that asked.
o That you can't comprehend even _simple_ questions, is amazing, nospam.

It takes fewer than 10 seconds to prove your statements dead wrong, nospam.
o How To Enable Encryption On iPhone, iPad Or Android Device
<https://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-enable-encryption-on-iphone-ipad-or-android-device/>

o How to encrypt an Android phone or tablet using the native software
<https://www.ubergizmo.com/how-to/encrypt-android-device/>
<https://www.technobezz.com/how-to-encrypt-android-phone-or-tablet/>
<https://pixelprivacy.com/resources/encrypt-android/>
<https://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-encrypt-android-device-326700/>
<https://www.tomsguide.com/us/how-to-encrypt-android-device,news-17774.html>
etc.

Do you know why your credibility is worthless nospam?
o It's because you're almost _always_ wrong on almost everything you write.

This thread is about encrypted file containers, some of which can contain
two layers of passwords (a container inside of a container), and all of
which can be easily passed back and forth between any common consumer
mobile device you own, whether that is iOS, Android, Linux, Windows, or
Mac.

It's _easy_ to find *free* encryption container software for all but iOS.
Hence, the very simple question remains open and unanswered as yet:

Q: *Does the iTunes app store have any _free_ disk encryption container software?*

[nospam]

In article <q4jtpd$7nu$1...@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder

<ar...@arlen.com> wrote:

> The ability to read/write to/from encrypted container files on iOS is _not_
> "built into" iOS (or any operating system, for that matter), nospam.

yes it is.

ios devices have full disk encryption and with hardware support, thus
no slowdown and without the need to fuss with separate apps to do it.
it's always on. recent macs also do this.

most android devices do not have hardware encryption, so enabling fde
will slow it down, often to the point where it's not usable, which is
why it's normally off by default.

you've previously babbled about how you never use a passcode and never
put anything important on your phone, therefore do not need encryption.

[arlen holder]

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 11:51:38 -0500, nospam wrote:

> yes it is.

Hi nospam,

Facts are your weakness, nospam.
o Facts & logic.

Stop brazenly fabricating completely imaginary iOS functionality, nospam.
o Just stop it.

Please stop proving that your entire belief system is wholly imaginary!
o You _know_ iOS does not create portable encrypted container files.

You comprehend the word "_Veracrypt_" in the original post, don't you?
o You see the word "_encryption container_" file in the subject line, don't you?

The ability to pass a portable (perhaps double) encrypted container file
between all the various common consumer platforms is _not_ built into iOS.

It's easy to do on all platforms, but I am simply seeking a _free_ iOS app.
o On every other platform, it's _easy_ to find a *free* app to do this.

For example,
a. I can create an encrypted file container on Windows (as an example)
b. And then I can _use_ that encrypted file container on Linux
c. And I can even use the hidden-inside double container on Android
etc.

I'm setting up a system to pass encrypted file containers back & forth.
o It's _easy_ and _free_ on all other platforms other than on iOS

*It's just on iOS that it's harder (maybe impossible?) to find a free app.*
o Your credibility is worthless nospam
o That's because you simply make everything up

Facts & Logic are lost on you, nospam.

This portable encrypted file container ability is not native to iOS.
o Stop proving all you do is fabricate completely imaginary functionality.

The question is and was the same despite your imaginary claims:

We can easily & freely create a set of encrypted container files on _any_
platform (other than iOS) and then we can easily & freely _use_ those
encrypted container files on all platforms (other than iOS), nospam.

The question remains...
Q: *Does the iTunes app store have any _free_ disk encryption container apps?*

[nospam]

In article <q4k1gl$eev$1...@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder

<ar...@arlen.com> wrote:


> The ability to pass a portable (perhaps double) encrypted container file
> between all the various common consumer platforms is _not_ built into iOS.

nonsense. it can be done that way if you really want to, but what you
fail to comprehend is that is not needed.

[arlen holder]

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 12:11:46 -0500, nospam wrote:

> nonsense. it can be done that way if you really want to, but what you
> fail to comprehend is that is not needed.

Hi nospam,

Facts are your weakness, nospam.
o Facts

A free Veracrypt-compatible app is _easy_ to find for Android.
A free Veracrypt-compatible app is _easy_ to find for Windows.
A free Veracrypt-compatible app is _easy_ to find for Linux.
A free Veracrypt-compatible app is _easy_ to find for the Mac.
But where is a free Veracrypt-compatible app for iOS?

You claim it exist, nospam (it's yet more of your imaginary functionality).
o Your credibility is worthless because you just everything up, nospam.

Almost everything you write fails the simple 3-word ignorance test.
o Name just one

To wit...

If a free Veracrypt-compatible encryption container app exists on iOS...
o *Name just one*

[badgolferman]

nospam wrote:

>but what you
>fail to comprehend is that is not needed.

This is the part of your responses that always bothers me. Just
because you don't need it doesn't mean others don't. The headphone
jack is the classic example. TouchID and Home button are others. Many
other examples as well.

[nospam]

In article <xn0lqevu...@reader.albasani.net>, badgolferman

my responses are not about my personal needs.

the point is that since ios devices encrypt everything, having another
encryption app is not needed.

people can certainly use additional encryption apps if they want, but
there's very little advantage.

[badgolferman]

Ignoring the possibility this was brought up with the answer already
known, if a person is asking for something then they probably need it.
A flippant answer like "it's not needed" merely indicates contempt. If
it's the image you want to convey then so be it.

[nospam]

In article <xn0lqewq...@reader.albasani.net>, badgolferman

<REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ignoring the possibility this was brought up with the answer already
> known, if a person is asking for something then they probably need it.

not always. many times people think they need something, not realizing
that the functionality is already part of the product.

'arlen' in particular asks about lots of stuff he doesn't actually need
or even understand and then goes off on a rant when people explain
things. check the vpn thread for some hilarity.

> A flippant answer like "it's not needed" merely indicates contempt. If
> it's the image you want to convey then so be it.

there is no contempt. encryption is part of ios, so using a second
encryption app is redundant. very simple.

use additional apps if you want, but there's very little benefit.
cracking the encryption is going to take billions of years, so what's
built in is more than sufficient.

that's not the case with android, where most android devices are are
*not* fully encrypted (no hw support, therefore very slow if enabled),
so there *is* a need for separate apps on that platform.

[arlen holder]

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 18:25:40 +0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:

> Ignoring the possibility this was brought up with the answer already
> known, if a person is asking for something then they probably need it.
> A flippant answer like "it's not needed" merely indicates contempt. If
> it's the image you want to convey then so be it.

Hi badgolferman,

Facts + Logic.
o That's all I ask anyone to comprehend.

Since you're an adult, you can comprehend that there can easily be a need
for someone who has iOS, Android, Windows, Linux, and maybe even Mac to
want to pass encrypted container files among those various platforms.

I don't expect you to know the answer, but I do appreciate that you can
comprehend the problem set, which I'll take the time to explain below,
since others can also benefit from this simple & powerful use model.

As you know, I own iOS, Android, Linux, and Windows devices, where I always
ensure cross-platform compatibility across them, and as you can imagine, my
extended family owns those devices and the Mac.

I'm setting up a cross-platform system where _each_ person in my family has
the same medical information, for example (but it could be any common
private information), which I maintain temporarily on a USB stick when they
need the master file, where that USB stick is attached to the router for
the time that they need it, and then removed (although it _could_ be left
there, there's no need for 24/7 access to the master file).

It doesn't really matter that the file is maintained on a USB stick since I
could maintain it on an external hard drive or any common private media.

Note that this master container file could even be a double-encrypted file
container if I wanted it to be, where the "common" information can be in
the "outer shell" and the "personal information" in the inner shell; but
this particular container file is only encrypted with one 'shell' instead
of with "two shells" (like those Russian wooden dolls that fit inside each
other).

What I do is manage the medical information, where, since it's encrypted, I
can put VERY PERSONAL stuff into that master file, and then, each person in
the family can have that information available whenever they need it once
they copy the container to their platform of choice, whether that's
o Android
o Windows
o Linux
o Mac
o iOS

Since the various people are scattered about the country (where one is
currently in Europe, for example), reading from and writing to that common
file has to be done in a way that can be accessed read and write offline.

Since it's medical information, you don't want it on the net for any longer
than it absolutely has to be (e.g., it's trivial to plug in a USB stick
into the router for the five minutes it takes to download or upload).

The use model is very simple and very effective:
a. I maintain a master medical records file, encrypted
b. Anyone who needs it has a copy of the master on their device

If the medical records need to be updated:
A. I can update the master file & push it to them, or,
B. They can update their client files and push it back to me.

The file is on the net _only_ during transit to/from a device.
It's _always_ encrypted except when actually in use.

There are two iOS apps that I know of that read/write this format.

o Disk Decipher:
<http://disk-decipher.hekkihek.nl/>
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/disk-decipher/id516538625?mt=8>

o Crypto Disks:
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/crypto-disks-store-private/id889549308>

Since the app functionality is free on _all_ other platforms, and since I'm
outlining a _general_ use model that works for everyone around the world at
all times, all I'm asking is a _very simple question_ in this thread.

Q: Does the iTunes app store have any free disk encryption container software?

[nospam]

In article <q4k7f6$rhs$1...@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder

<ar...@arlen.com> wrote:

> As you know, I own iOS, Android, Linux, and Windows devices, where I always
> ensure cross-platform compatibility across them,

which guarantees the lowest common denominator across all platforms.

>
> I'm setting up a cross-platform system where _each_ person in my family has
> the same medical information, for example (but it could be any common
> private information), which I maintain temporarily on a USB stick when they
> need the master file, where that USB stick is attached to the router for
> the time that they need it, and then removed (although it _could_ be left
> there, there's no need for 24/7 access to the master file).

reinventing the wheel, as always.

[arlen holder]

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 13:43:07 -0500, nospam wrote:

> not always. many times people think they need something, not realizing
> that the functionality is already part of the product.

Hi nospam,

Stop incessantly fabricating wholly imaginary iOS functionality.
o Just stop it.

*It doesn't help _anyone_ to brazenly fabricate iOS native functionality.*
o It simply proves that your credibility, nospam, is utterly worthless.

FACT + LOGIC
o That's your weakness nospam - it's why your credibility is worthless.

If you don't even realize this functionality is not native in iOS...
o Then you _should_ know it's not native before stating that it is.

o If you don't know something even _that_ simple about iOS, well then ...
(In deference to badgolferman, I won't say what that proves you to be).

To others who may be confused by nospam's incessant brazen fabrications of
imaginary native iOS functionality, take a look at this description for
o *Crypto Disks & File Explorer*
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/crypto-disks-store-private/id889549308>

Here are verbatim quotes of functionality from _that_ description...

"*Provide _three_ levels of protection to your files*
app passcode
encrypted disk
hidden encrypted disk

*[Three levels of protection to your files]*

1. *App passcode and Touch ID*
It┬ only the basic level of protection, though some other
Apps only provide such protection.

2. *Encrypted disk (aka _encrypted volume_)*
We use the TrueCrypt/VeraCrypt virtual disk encryption format,
an _open_, _popular_, 3rd party audited, and time-tested format

An encrypted virtual disk file appears as an ordinary file
before it is opened, but actually it contains an encrypted file
system (the App uses AES-256 encryption algorithm and supports
other algorithms as well).

The encrypted file system can be viewed and modified if and only
if its encryption key is provided for decryption.

Encrypting the whole file system not only encrypts the contents of
your files, but also encrypts the meta data of your files, like file
name and file size.

Such idea is also widely used in desktop operation systems for
better protection (like the Mac OS X┬ FileVault solution).

3. *Hidden encrypted disk*
Sometimes the user may be forced to reveal the password
of an encrypted disk file...

A hidden encrypted disk is a disk created at the back portion
of an outer encrypted disk file. If others do not know the password
of hidden encrypted disk, they not only cannot view the content of
hidden encrypted disk, but also cannot even know the existence of
hidden encrypted disk.

Thus, the user could put the most secret files into hidden encrypted
disk, and when he/she was forced to reveal the password of the disk
file, he/she only needs to reveal the password of the outer crypto disk
and deny the existence of the hidden crypto disk.

The App supports encrypted disks with FAT (FAT12, FAT16 and FAT32)
On you Mac or PC, you could use either Truecrypt VeraCrypt
to open encrypted disk files.

In summary, this is _very_ useful functionality, particularly because it is
a double-shell (like those Russian wooden dolls) encrypted container that
is cross platform across _all_ the common consumer platforms.

Since I'm writing a tutorial for a global solution that _anyone_ can use
around the world, it's important to lower the barriers to adoption, where
it's trivially easy to find the free software on all but on iOS.

Hence this very simple technical question I ask in this newsgoup is:]
Q: Does iTunes have this free disk encryption container software?

[nospam]

In article <q4k94d$v42$1...@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder

<ar...@arlen.com> wrote:

> Since I'm writing a tutorial for a global solution that _anyone_ can use
> around the world,

nobody wants your fucked up 'solutions'.

they have far easier and more effective ways of doing things, without
your 'tutorials'.

[arlen holder]

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:01:04 -0500, nospam wrote:

> which guarantees the lowest common denominator across all platforms.

Notice to badgolferman...
1. Notice I asked a _simple_ question in this thread
2. Notice that I provided a use model that is extremely useful world wide
3. Notice I explained what I needed, why I needed it, and how it's used.

Then notice, badgolferman,
A. Nospam repeatedly & brazenly fabricates imaginary iOS functionality.
B. When you give nospam the simple 3-word test, he fails every time
C. Name just one

Question to badgolferman:
Q: Why does nospam _constantly_ fabricate imaginary functionality?

>> I'm setting up a cross-platform system where _each_ person in my family has
>> the same medical information, for example (but it could be any common
>> private information), which I maintain temporarily on a USB stick when they
>> need the master file, where that USB stick is attached to the router for
>> the time that they need it, and then removed (although it _could_ be left
>> there, there's no need for 24/7 access to the master file).
>
> reinventing the wheel, as always.

Hi nospam,

Please stop fabricating imaginary iOS native functionality, nospam.
o Just stop it.

It serves no useful purpose for you to claim iOS native functionality that
simple does not exist, has never existed, and likely will never exist.

I have to ask badgolferman, sms, JF Mezei, and other adults...
o Why do you, nospam, incessantly fabricate imaginary iOS functionality?

There is a simple 3-word test, that you _always_ fail, nospam.
o The test is so simple, and yet, you _always_ fail it, nospam.

This simple test that you fail _proves_ your make everything up, nospam:
o Name just one

[arlen holder]

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:23:30 -0500, nospam wrote:

> they have far easier and more effective ways of doing things, without
> your 'tutorials'.

Hi nospam,

Please stop fabricating imaginary iOS native functionality, nospam.
o Just stop it.

[nospam]

In article <q4k9mc$g0$1...@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder

<ar...@arlen.com> wrote:

> I have to ask badgolferman, sms, JF Mezei, and other adults...

kids grow up so fast.

they were children just last week...

[arlen holder]

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 17:53:18 +0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:

> This is the part of your responses that always bothers me. Just
> because you don't need it doesn't mean others don't. The headphone
> jack is the classic example. TouchID and Home button are others. Many
> other examples as well.

Hi badgolferman,

*Why does nospam incessantly fabricate imaginary iOS native functionality?*

As you are aware, I try to comprehend why nospam does what he does.
o Basically he makes up everything he says
o He doesn't care one bit whether what he says is true or false

If iOS doesn't have a functionality, nospam brazenly fabricates it
o Just like he did here

When we prove iOS doesn't have the imaginary functionality he fabricated
o Then nospam flatly claims the only way to do it is the "iOS way"

I ask you badgolferman (and sms, JF Mezei, Ant, et al.)...
o Is this the action of an adult?

In deference to you badgolferman, I'm trying very hard not to call nospam
an "idiot"; but I think you can agree that he's _always_ does this.

I ask you, badgolferman, WHY does nospam just make everything up?
o He brazenly makes up imaginary native iOS functionality

I can only think of three possible reasons nospam does this, badgolferman
1. It could be that nospam is simply incessantly playing a childish game, or
2. It could be that nospam actually _believes_ what he claims, or,
3. It could be that nospam is simply always just knowingly making it up.

Which is it badgolferman?

You're an adult, badgolferman.
o Which of those rationales is it badgolferman?

*Why does nospam incessantly fabricate imaginary iOS native functionality?*

[arlen holder]

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:31:49 -0500, nospam wrote:

>> I have to ask badgolferman, sms, JF Mezei, and other adults...
>
> kids grow up so fast.
>
> they were children just last week...

[badgolferman]

It hurts less if you stop trying to figure out others. Just take them for
face value.

[B...@onramp.net]

hopefully you've done this with arlen. Better yet just fact check him
and nospam. Its apparent who is factually correct.
P.S. It ain't arlen.

[joe]

On 2/20/2019 1:25 PM, arlen holder wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:01:04 -0500, nospam wrote:
>
>> which guarantees the lowest common denominator across all platforms.
>
> Notice to badgolferman...
> 1. Notice I asked a _simple_ question in this thread

It was a simple question you could answer by looking in the app store.
If you couldn't find something that met your needs, then maybe the
question was not so simple. Given the way you worded the question it was
likely readers could understand exactly what you were looking for.

That you've asked for a free app when you've clearly found some 99 cent
apps is crazy. You value peoples time as something less than 99 cent. If
you value their efforts less than that small value, why should they help
you? It also shows how little you value your time.

> 2. Notice that I provided a use model that is extremely useful world wide

But this was not in your first post. With so little detail in your first
post, it looked like you were looking for an encryption app for iOS.
Since encryption is in hardware, an app to encrypt content on the iOS
device would be pointless.

> 3. Notice I explained what I needed, why I needed it, and how it's used.

Yes, but that final explanation was about 9 hours after your first post.

>
> Then notice, badgolferman,
> A. Nospam repeatedly & brazenly fabricates imaginary iOS functionality.

No what nospam said was not a fabrication. His first reply was factually
correct. It just wasn't an answer you wanted to your poorly worded
question. His subsequent reply once you provided additional needed
detail was also factually correct. Again his reply was not what you
wanted to hear so you once again attacked.

> B. When you give nospam the simple 3-word test, he fails every time
> C. Name just one

Given you general approach to attack people who do not give you what you
want, why would you expect folks to be overly helpful?

>
> Question to badgolferman:
> Q: Why does nospam _constantly_ fabricate imaginary functionality?

I saw no fabrication. I saw a poorly worded question followed by
responses that didn't match your needs, in part due to the poor wording
of your request.

>
>>> I'm setting up a cross-platform system where _each_ person in my family has
>>> the same medical information, for example (but it could be any common
>>> private information), which I maintain temporarily on a USB stick when they
>>> need the master file, where that USB stick is attached to the router for
>>> the time that they need it, and then removed (although it _could_ be left
>>> there, there's no need for 24/7 access to the master file).
>>
>> reinventing the wheel, as always.
>
> Hi nospam,
>
> Please stop fabricating imaginary iOS native functionality, nospam.
> o Just stop it.

But he nospam is basically correct; you are reinventing the wheel. There
are solutions to do what you want.

Your problem is that you are trying to accomplish something, think you
have a solution, and then try to follow it blindly. On the other hand,
if you had presented the desired goal properly at first (a need to
manage some file(s) with personal information), then a variety of
possible solutions could have been offered and you could then select the
one the best meets your very specific needs.

I can think of at least two options. Both would be much easier to
manage. But you didn't ask for possible solutions for the task you are
trying to accomplish.

[Jolly Roger]

joe <no...@domain.invalid> wrote:
>
> But he nospam is basically correct; you are reinventing the wheel. There
> are solutions to do what you want.
>
> Your problem is that you are trying to accomplish something, think you
> have a solution, and then try to follow it blindly. On the other hand,
> if you had presented the desired goal properly at first (a need to
> manage some file(s) with personal information), then a variety of
> possible solutions could have been offered and you could then select the
> one the best meets your very specific needs.
>
> I can think of at least two options. Both would be much easier to
> manage. But you didn't ask for possible solutions for the task you are
> trying to accomplish.

Such pointless machinations have been his modus operandi for literal years.
His “problems” are carefully and rigidly constructed for the purpose of
trolling.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

[arlen holder]

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 20:48:37 +0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:

> It hurts less if you stop trying to figure out others.
> Just take them for face value.

Hi badgolferman,

I think you're right, even though I hadn't thought of it that way.
o *What hurts the most, is that they're utterly impervious to facts.*

I'm impressed with your intelligence, acumen, & understanding:
o You comprehend that their low-IQ utter ignorance hurts me.

*You seem to understand that I very much do _care_ about humans.*
o This group does NOT act like normal adults act.

A normal adult can weigh facts to come to a logical conclusion
o These people can not weigh even the _simplest_ of facts.
o Hence they form a completely & wholly imaginary belief system.

*You have to admit these people are NOT like a normal adult should be.*

If I assume that their actions are merely a result of an unfathomably low
IQ, then, I guess, it's easier to comprehend their actions, since it's not
their IQ is inbred, and unchangeable by them.

What's sad is that their low IQ makes them utterly incapable of making
logical sense out of even the _simplest_ facts - as you saw here today.

Just like the fact that the lemon-juice bank robber _actually_ exists!
o *It literally _hurts_ me, to realize these people actually exist.*

Never in my life had I dealt with people of such low IQ as those below:
o Alan Baker <nu...@ness.biz>
o Alan Browne <bitb...@blackhole.com>
o Andreas Rutishauser <and...@macandreas.ch>
o B...@Onramp.net
o Chris <ithi...@gmail.com>
o Davoud <st...@sky.net>
o Elden <use...@moondog.org>
o *Hemidactylus* <ecph...@allspamis.invalid>
o joe <no...@domain.invalid>
o Joerg Lorenz <hugy...@gmx.ch>
o Johan <JH...@nospam.invalid>
o Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com>
o Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
o nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid>
o Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
o Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> (aka Michael Glasser)
o Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net>
o Wade Garrett <wa...@cooler.net>
o Your Name <Your...@YourISP.com>
o et al.

You are correct, badgolferman,
o It hurts that these people actually do exist.

I've seen people like them in comedies, but never in real life.
o I've never had to deal with people of so low an IQ before.

*What hurts the most, is that they're utterly impervious to facts.*

[arlen holder]

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 19:10:36 -0600, joe wrote:

> Since encryption is in hardware, an app to encrypt content
> on the iOS device would be pointless.

Hi joe,

FACT:
Q1: Do you _see_ the word "Veracrypt" in the opening post, joe?
A1: Yes.

FACT:
Q2: Do you _see_ the word "encryption container" in the SUBJECT joe?
A2: Yes.

LOGIC:
o It's impossible for a normal adult to have _missed_ those words, joe.

HINT:
While I suspect you, joe, appear to be completely incomprehensive of what a
"Veracrypt" & "encryption container" means, it's not always as clear that
nospam is as ignorant as you appear to be, joe, from what you just wrote.

To an adult, there are only two choices of FACT + LOGIC, joe:
1. Either nospam is always just playing silly little childish games, or,
2. Nospam actually _believes_ in his wholly imaginary belief system.
*(Pick one.)*

[joe]

On 2/20/2019 9:29 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> joe <no...@domain.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> But he nospam is basically correct; you are reinventing the wheel. There
>> are solutions to do what you want.
>>
>> Your problem is that you are trying to accomplish something, think you
>> have a solution, and then try to follow it blindly. On the other hand,
>> if you had presented the desired goal properly at first (a need to
>> manage some file(s) with personal information), then a variety of
>> possible solutions could have been offered and you could then select the
>> one the best meets your very specific needs.
>>
>> I can think of at least two options. Both would be much easier to
>> manage. But you didn't ask for possible solutions for the task you are
>> trying to accomplish.
>
> Such pointless machinations have been his modus operandi for literal years.
> His “problems” are carefully and rigidly constructed for the purpose of
> trolling.
>

I fully agree. Based on his response to my post he clearly isn't looking
for an answer to his query.

If he was really looking for a solution then, rather than attacking
posters, he would engage in constructive discussion.

[Elden]

On 2019-02-20, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> use additional apps if you want, but there's very little benefit.
> cracking the encryption is going to take billions of years, so what's
> built in is more than sufficient.

Unless you want to transport an encrypted file to another OS. This is a
pretty basic use-case that you seem to have overlooked.

--
-=Elden=-

[nospam]

In article <OLydnZNX2fGjUfPB...@giganews.com>, Elden

<use...@moondog.org> wrote:

> > use additional apps if you want, but there's very little benefit.
> > cracking the encryption is going to take billions of years, so what's
> > built in is more than sufficient.
>
> Unless you want to transport an encrypted file to another OS.

even then.

> This is a
> pretty basic use-case that you seem to have overlooked.

nope.

[arlen holder]

On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 10:05:18 -0600, Elden wrote:

> Unless you want to transport an encrypted file to another OS. This is a
> pretty basic use-case that you seem to have overlooked.

Hi Elden,

It's heartening to see that you understood the use model, since it's
extremely disheartening having to deal with people like nospam who can't
comprehend anything that Apple doesn't supply to them in propaganda.

The VeraCrypt use model is further explained a bit in this Wikipedia:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VeraCrypt>

An example use model is the creation of encrypted containers where you can
pass encrypted data among all your various devices, and/or among your
family, where it doesn't matter at all if that encrypted container file
originated on iOS, Android, Linux, Windows, or Mac.

In addition, you can have outer and inner containers, where it's said to be
impossible to tell that an inner container exists, each having its own
password where you can open one or the other, each being completely
different in content, even though the container file is the same on the
outside.

What's odd is that nospam _claims_ to comprehend encryption, but he
apparently isn't aware of this type of style encrypted container file,
which means simply that EVERYTHING nospam claims about encryption is simply
yet another proof of his entirely imaginary belief system, unsupported by
fact.

What's worse, is that the ignorance of the shockingly huge magnitude nospam
exhibited is almost unfathomable, since the Veracrypt tools are _widely_
known. <https://www.veracrypt.fr/en/Beginner's%20Tutorial.html>

That nospam clearly proved to be completely & utterly ignorant of container
file encryption fits perfectly with the fact that, even with his ignorance,
nospam still sees fit to repeatedly and vigorously "claim" that iOS can do
what Veracrypt does, even though that's patently impossible (except in
nospam's imaginary belief system).

It's more proof that nospam lives in a world of imaginary functionality.

[arlen holder]

On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 07:24:31 -0600, joe wrote:

> I fully agree. Based on his response to my post he clearly isn't looking
> for an answer to his query.

Hi joe,

The chance of you having "an answer" to anything ... joe ... is zero.