What is the free Tor Browser Bundle app functionality that is closest to the real thing?

[Ragnusen Ultred]

What is the free Tor Browser Bundle app functionality that is closest to
the real thing that you know of, on both Android and on iOS?

For Android, it "seems" that the closest there is to the real Tor Browser
Bundle is the Orbot app:
* https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.torproject.android

Which is touted by the real Tor site:
* https://www.torproject.org/docs/android.html
Where you can install Orbot from Google Play, F-Droid, or Guardian.

But then there's also Orfox for Android:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.guardianproject.orfox

Which is described here:
https://dev.guardianproject.info/projects/orfox-private-browser/wiki/Orfox_vs_Tor_Browser_FAQ/

Things seem much worse for iOS, where neither of those sanctioned apps
appear to exist, so, it's far more risky on iOS since the real thing isn't
available on iOS.

And yet, "fake" tor browser bundles apparently exist (perhaps only on iOS?)
* Fake Tor Browser App for iOS Full of Adware, Spyware
** https://securitywatch.pcmag.com/apple-ios-iphone-ipad-ipod/321803-fake-tor-browser-app-for-ios-full-of-adware-spyware
* Malicious Tor Browser Persists in iOS App Store for Months Despite Protests
** https://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/20/malicious-tor-browser-ios-app-store/
* Tor Project claims 'fake' Tor Browser sat in iOS App Store for months
** https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/21/tor_group_claims_fake_browser_has_sat_in_app_store_for_months/
etc.

This article about iOS and tor from 2015 implied iOS will get the real app
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/tor-app-ios-orfox-tor-browser-ios-9-apple/

They were working, at the time, on something called iCepa:
https://github.com/icepa

But the closest I can find that seems like it could be as real as you'll
ever get on iOS is perhaps the Onion Browser by Mike Tigas
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/tor-onion-browser-ios-vpn/

The Onion Browser isn't the real thing but it may be the best that iOS has
https://onionbrowser.com/

What is the free Tor Browser Bundle app functionality that is closest to
the real thing that you know of, on both Android and on iOS?

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I would recommend this one.

https://itunes.apple.com/pl/app/onion-browser/id519296448?mt=8

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[Ragnusen Ultred]

Am Fri, 27 Apr 2018 06:59:16 GMT, schrieb Krzysztof Staniorowski:

> I would recommend this one.
> https://itunes.apple.com/pl/app/onion-browser/id519296448?mt=8

Thanks for that suggestion for the best onion browser on iOS.

That does seem to be the one onion browser that has a recommendation from
the Guardian Project, since they know their stuff and since a counterfeit
might not do the job properly.

There do seem to be a few on iOS that I don't know if they work or not
(especially since we know Apple lets the fake Tor browsers remain).

VPN + TOR Browser Private Web by Bending Spoons Apps IVS
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vpn-tor-browser-private-web/id961073150?mt=8

Tornado Browser TOR by Pavel Korolev
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tornado-browser-tor/id1128115924?mt=8

Onion TOR Browser + VPN by Art Fusion
https://itunes.apple.com/ua/app/onion-tor-browser-vpn/id1227411543?l=uk&mt=8

Tob by JustKodding.com
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tob/id1063151782?mt=8

Red Onion - Tor-powered web browser by Omar Mody
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/red-onion-tor-powered-web-browser-for-anonymous-browsing/id829739720?mt=8

and lots others

So the question is which is the closest to the real thing?

[Joe Beanfish]

On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 05:36:51 +0000, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

> What is the free Tor Browser Bundle app functionality that is closest to
> the real thing that you know of, on both Android and on iOS?
>
> For Android, it "seems" that the closest there is to the real Tor Browser
> Bundle is the Orbot app:
> * https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.torproject.android
>
> Which is touted by the real Tor site:
> * https://www.torproject.org/docs/android.html
> Where you can install Orbot from Google Play, F-Droid, or Guardian.
>
> But then there's also Orfox for Android:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.guardianproject.orfox
>
> Which is described here:
> https://dev.guardianproject.info/projects/orfox-private-browser/wiki/Orfox_vs_Tor_Browser_FAQ/
>

I don't know about iOS, but for android you need orbot and orfox together.
Orbot establishes the tor circuit. Orfox is the browser that uses it.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Am Fri, 27 Apr 2018 13:24:25 -0000 (UTC), schrieb Joe Beanfish:

> I don't know about iOS, but for android you need orbot and orfox together.
> Orbot establishes the tor circuit. Orfox is the browser that uses it.

Thank you for clarifying the tactical difference between Orbot & Orfox.
Orbot https://guardianproject.info/apps/orbot/
Orfox https://guardianproject.info/apps/orfox/

For Android, there also seems to be a related Orweb and an Orwall?
Orweb https://f-droid.org/packages/info.guardianproject.browser/
Orwall https://f-droid.org/packages/org.ethack.orwall/

On iOS, there are *many* browsers with "tor" in the name but given we know
there are blatant imposters that didn't even use Tor (they used an FTP
site, apparently) and given I've tested some and they never establish a tor
circuit, I think this is the only one that we can likely trust given that
it's got some commendations by the Guardian Project, I think.
Onion https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/onion-browser/id519296448?mt=8

Do folks concur on those as the best recommended Tor browsers for mobile?

[Lewis]

In message <8TzEC.13750$AX1....@fx25.am4> Krzysztof Staniorowski <nos...@ksx4system.net> wrote:

> Ragnusen Ultred <rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:

> I would recommend this one.

Please do not respond to the troll.

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[Lewis]

Please do not respond to the troll.

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[Ragnusen Ultred]

Am Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:51:33 -0000 (UTC), schrieb Lewis:

> Please do not respond to the troll.

Not one of these half-dozen trolls can possibly add on-topic technical value.
1. Lewis
2. Jolly Roger
3. BK@OnRamp
3. Hemidactylus
5. nospam
6. dorayme

For proof, see their incessant drivel & watch how they respond to verified fact.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Am Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:50:51 -0000 (UTC), schrieb Lewis:

> I WILL NOT CALL MY TEACHER "HOT CAKES" Bart chalkboard Ep. 7G10

Not one of the roughly half-dozen trolls can possibly ever add on-topic
technical value, simply because they can't comprehend technical topics.
Lewis
Jolly Roger
BK@OnRamp
Hemidactylus
dorayme
nospam
etc.

They are all simply not technically competent.

For proof, notice that Lewis is incapable of adding technical value,
and yet, *Lewis incessantly posts this non-technical drivel*.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Am Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:45:54 +0200, schrieb FredW:

> Fred W. (nld)

Blatant Lewis sock!

Not one of the roughly half-dozen Apple trolls is technically competent.

Hence, these Apple trolls can only post their non-technical drivel...
1. Lewis (aka FredW)

2. Jolly Roger
3. BK@OnRamp
3. Hemidactylus
5. nospam
6. dorayme

For factual proof, just see what they post.

[Joerg Lorenz]

Am 27.04.18 um 19:51 schrieb Lewis:

> In message <pbv8a9$a1u$1...@dont-email.me> Joe Beanfish <joebe...@nospam.duh> wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 05:36:51 +0000, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
>
>> I don't know about iOS, but for android you need orbot and orfox together.
>> Orbot establishes the tor circuit. Orfox is the browser that uses it.
>
>
> Please do not respond to the troll.
>

The only troll I can see here is you.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Am Fri, 27 Apr 2018 05:36:51 -0000 (UTC), schrieb Ragnusen Ultred:

> What is the free Tor Browser Bundle app functionality that is closest to
> the real thing that you know of, on both Android and on iOS?

SOLVED!

Thanks for everyone pitching in to add technical value to solve it.

(The best threads are theoretically three useful posts long where the first
asks the question, the second provides the answer and the third summarizes
the test results for everyone else to benefit from.)

To give an update on the best Tor-based browsers for both iOS and Android,
I tested for the past few days all the mentioned solutions, but only the
two solutions seem to work well - so this should save others a lot of time
and effort.

The biggest problem with the solutions that didn't work well were that they
very often (surprisingly often) didn't establish a "circuit" from the
directory server.

That lack of establishment of a circuit is odd, because on Windows & Linux
(tested when both were on Wi-Fi), the official Tor Browser Bundle always
(rather quickly) established a circuit on the exact same tested network,
even at the exact same time frame.

It's odd but the Android (moto g) establishment of a circuit is slower than
Windows when run at the same time, and the iOS (ipad 2017) establishment of
a circuit is dog slow when run at the same time, but that noticeable lag
could be due to the machine hardware differences and not to the browser
itself (since the wifi network is exactly the same).

If you've kept up with this thread, by now you know who those two best
Tor-based browsers are, but to keep the summary intact, here they are:

Android:

Orbot https://guardianproject.info/apps/orbot/
Orfox https://guardianproject.info/apps/orfox/

iOS:
Onion https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/onion-browser/id519296448?mt=8

Personally, I can't recommend *any* of the others - they were that bad.
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[Steven Petruzzellis]

This is something you merely pretend to understand. Sandman makes things up. Here is a list of names Jonas Eklundh has admitted he attributes to Vennie Bowden, Realtor "Cactus Pete", "Donald", "Donald Miller", "Horace McSwain", "Hymen", "meat", "Mike Weaver", "Modena IV Drid", "Omar Murad Asfour", "Rhino Plastee", "Soapy", "SopwithCamel", "Sunny Day", "Takuya Saitoh", "The Letter Q", "tmelmosfire", "zevon". All total lies, of course.

I have known grade school kids who argue better than you do. Run a background check on Vennie Bowden, Realtor and you will discover that he was in a correctional facility more than once. Who knows what he did? The investigation sites don't go into that level of detail and court records in his area need to be subpoenaed.

Can you stop asking for my attention?

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[Steven Petruzzellis]

Facts about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll

Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is a nearly 60 year old guy who is single, broke and has no skills. He blames Donny Karcie for his loss of his wife and girlfriend. Steven is jealous of what Donny Karcie has and in a narcissistic rage repeatedly works to take it away from him. For over 10 years he has failed at even this. Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is an utter failure in life.

Of his online life Steven says

I've been booted off by past providers before because people
complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
*again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
from.

Some examples where Steven has been booted

X10 Hosting booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/z92qmz4

Comcast booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/h75nh9l

FreeHostingEU booted Steven for copyright infringement http://devsite.eu.pn

AwardSpace (atwebpages.com) booted Steven for breaking terms of service
http://demsites.atwebpages.com/pokeman

Imgur took down an image for breaking terms of service http://imgur.com/yv2XppE

Had a GigaNews account which was removed for harassing Donny Karcie

Stopped posting from his fretwizzen Google account since shortly after I complained. Seems he lost that too.

His wife booted Steven to the curb for cheating on her



Only site Steven Petruzzellis has pointed to that has ever been available
http://web.archive.org/web/20161019062351/http://www.oldneighborhoodrestaurant.net/
https://goo.gl/DMno6J

Made by the Go Daddy Website builder and is utter crap. Later he denied he said he was merely taking credit for someone else's work but Steven is the contact person http://tinyurl.com/hcw6dul
http://web.archive.org/web/20161202192456/http://www.reservationdiary.eu/eng/reservation/d76d1156-e9f7-43c1-b77b-b07189857820

He also bragged he was working on an update and showed it here https://vid.me/u6RK

The business still failed.

He likely went to the Go Daddy Website Builder after he failed to get WordPress installed.

https://mu.wordpress.org/forums/topic/13879


This is why Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll attacks Donny Karcie.


Steven Petruzzellis was is divorced because his wife caught him screwing another woman.

Donny Karcie is married and by all appearances happily so.
He never complains about his wife in COLA.


Steven Petruzzellis is living on charity of a friend in a single room.

Donny Karcie does not live in a mansion or even a high end home but has a house and a yard.


Steven Petruzzellis has two kids but no respect. He repeatedly called Ryan his "little screwup" and refers to his son Steve as a "dick" and worse. He says at least one of them likely hacked his computer and is a "mentally deficient child." He mocks his possible future daughter-in-law as someone who takes too many selfies and is focused only on herself

Donny Karcie has two kids (or more) and never speaks poorly of them in public.
No reason to think they are not a happy family.


Steven Petruzzellis claims to be a stay at home dad who pays thousands of dollars for day care. Steven has no job and no purpose in life. Steven has given up and now seeks a mother-figure to date.

Donny Karcie has his own business doing technical work and also teaches.
Donny Karcie offers a true contribution to society.
Teachers are truly under appreciated.

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[Steven Petruzzellis]

I guess this is what happens when dangerously low pride takes over nospam's entire life. By following 'lawyers' like that you get laws like 'communism'. Carried to its ultimate resolution, the media position that it's 'bigoted' for a hetero male to not wish to have sex with a dead body is pushed. I suspect we have two different ideas completely.



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[Jolly Roger]

Ragnusen Ultred <rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:
> Am Fri, 27 Apr 2018 05:36:51 -0000 (UTC), schrieb Ragnusen Ultred:
>
>> What is the free Tor Browser Bundle app functionality that is closest to
>> the real thing that you know of, on both Android and on iOS?
>
> SOLVED!
>

> iOS:
> Onion https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/onion-browser/id519296448?mt=8

“Hehhhhh, DOY, it only took me three fucking *days* to figure out what a
search for “tor browser” in the App Store told me to begin with. I’m, like,
smart, very smart. I have all the smarts. More than any other iOS user!”

Sure you do.

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[Steve Carroll]

This is something you know nothing about. And in response you have nothing but a crack to start a war. My uptime is almost fifty days and that is with doing a full update.

It was Rick C. Hodgin who stated that he and his hired winos used to break windows all the time and it was an amusement of his. All that matters is that Rick C. Hodgin gets to deal out his prank call and then hang up and giggle about it. The fact that Steve Carroll is an innocent patsy on the other end of the phone is what's funny. Rick C. Hodgin wants to punish everyone here: If Rick C. Hodgin can't get attention here then nobody will.

I'm not going to pretend Steve Carroll did not square me away on image editing and I acknowledge it. Rick C. Hodgin has Steve Carroll as an example and could learn to seem like he is no longer complete ignorant from now on ;) The guy is as well liked as a tax collector -- and with good cause.

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[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fl51gg...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> ´Hehhhhh, DOY, it only took me three fucking *days* to figure out what a
> search for ´tor browser¡ in the App Store told me to begin with. Iÿm, like,
> smart, very smart. I have all the smarts. More than any other iOS user!¡

I love when you post, since you, Jolly Roger, are an average iOS user.

Based on what Jolly Roger writes, it's clear to all but to himself how low
on the Dunning-Kruger scale of self assessment he is (bearing in mind that
everyone is on the DK scale since it's a scale of self assessment of
skills).

Essentially:
- The less one knows, the higher they comparatively self assess.
- The more they know, the lower they comparatively self assess.

That Jolly Roger self assesses so high, and yet, that Jolly Roger proves in
every post that he can't possibly provide any technical value to any thread
is famously classic for the lowest quadrant of the DK scale.

That's why I love when Jolly Roger posts!
His posts are from the deepest possible thoughts of the average iOS user.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-05-06, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
> In article <news:fl51gg...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> ´Hehhhhh, DOY, it only took me three fucking *days* to figure out what a
>> search for ´tor browser¡ in the App Store told me to begin with. Iÿm, like,
>> smart, very smart. I have all the smarts. More than any other iOS user!¡
>
> I love when you post, since you, Jolly Roger, are an average iOS user.

While you bumble around confused looking for what is right in front of
you, the average iOS user has already downloaded the browser from the
App Store and walked out the door, old fart.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fl8kgu...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> While you bumble around confused looking for what is right in front of
> you, the average iOS user has already downloaded the browser from the
> App Store and walked out the door, old fart.

Again, I love when you post, because you actually believe what you wrote.

Your posts, Jolly Roger, literally imbued with ignorance & vitriol, are a
precious primary resource insight into the mind of the average iOS user.

Thank you.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-05-06, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> In article <news:fl8kgu...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> While you bumble around confused looking for what is right in front of
>> you, the average iOS user has already downloaded the browser from the
>> App Store and walked out the door, old fart.
>
> Again, I love when you post, because you actually believe what you wrote.

yes, I believe that the average iOS user doesn't spend three fucking
days searching for a tor browser everywhere *but* the App Store; instead
they simply search the store and get the app. While you futz around,
they are already out the door, old fart.

> Thank you.

Anytime, dip shit.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:fl8nn8...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> yes, I believe that the average iOS user doesn't spend three fucking
> days searching for a tor browser everywhere *but* the App Store; instead
> they simply search the store and get the app. While you futz around,
> they are already out the door, old fart.
>
>> Thank you.
>
> Anytime, dip shit.

I'm going to attempt to write to you, Jolly Roger, as one sentient adult to
you, an average iOS user, but I'm not sure you can comprehend adult logical
thought processes.

You, Jolly Roger, as an average iOS user, always harp on how much elapsed
time it takes from one post of a question, to the post of the solution of
the question, which is, I reaffirm, a meaningless statistic.

This meaningless elapsed time between posts seems to be a *great* issue
with you, Jolly Roger, an average iOS user, for reasons only known to you.

In the classic Dunning-Kruger sense, you, Jolly Roger, an average iOS user,
seem to think that you're a genius because you can search for any app with
the word "tor" in them.

Your very claims prove, beyond much doubt, that you, Jolly Roger, an
average iOS user, are in the bottom quadrant of Dunning-Kruger
self-assessment of skills behavior.

I realize that you, Jolly Roger, an average iOS user, are probably
incapable of even comprehending the adult logic I just outlined above, but
perhaps, just maybe, there are others here, who possibly are not average
iOS users who can comprehend adult sentient logic that eludes you.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-05-07, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
> In article <news:fl8nn8...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> yes, I believe that the average iOS user doesn't spend three fucking
>> days searching for a tor browser everywhere *but* the App Store; instead
>> they simply search the store and get the app. While you futz around,
>> they are already out the door, old fart.
>>
>>> Thank you.
>>
>> Anytime, dip shit.
>

> [irrelevant garbage]

That you can't say anything at all about your mysterious inability to
find a tor browser on the App Store for three literal *days* - something
average iOS uses did it in mere *minutes* - says everything we need to
know about your true motives. You're a sad old fart with nothing better
to do with your life than belittle complete strangers in the Apple news
groups. In the rods of your Dear Cheeto Leader, "Sad, very sad."

[Steve Carroll]

Some time ago I did work on and showed some C for the front end which is the only thing you can do when trying to avoid Steven Petruzzellis's nonstop crap while reading with Google Groups. I'm not angry, just the opposite I am enjoying watching because Steven Petruzzellis's lying is so transparent. He actively didn't introduce all the criteria that he would soon poo poo... and we all know why. At least he has his shills in his corner. It was Steven Petruzzellis who flooded Dan Cross's site dozens of times and pretended he did not do it. Thanks to Steven Petruzzellis and his 'co-trolls' you now need a whitelist (which I set up for NewsLeecher and Google Groups). If Dan Cross and others start attacking him again I will, too... as I hate him too much to not. I'm referring to our clan here, not socks, who have been talking to him the whole time.

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[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:flc3cn...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

> That you can't say anything at all about your mysterious inability to
> find a tor browser on the App Store for three literal *days* - something
> average iOS uses did it in mere *minutes* - says everything we need to
> know about your true motives. You're a sad old fart with nothing better
> to do with your life than belittle complete strangers in the Apple news
> groups. In the rods of your Dear Cheeto Leader, "Sad, very sad."

It's amazing that you, *Jolly Roger, the most average of iOS users*, thinks
that you are a genius, simply because you can only punch buttons that Apple
MARKETING told you to punch.

[Steve Carroll]

Just moronic trolling. And I am giving attention to that trolling. THAT is what the "ed circus" is. What Bash shell looks like is irrelevant and then it is not like Bash shell, especially if it's better than the competition. For all the bragging ed has done on this topic, the 'Web Developer' does not understand how to do this. It literally takes a couple seconds to click and drag across a range and 'reverse' it.

What do you get out of lying? ed can take pleasure in the accommodations in the overflowing shit hole of my kill filter. Honestly, those of you who troll are not able to manage yourselves anymore. On topic discussions will be overwhelmed once the those of us here before the eternal September are outnumbered. That, and there will forever be a snit thrower or more in an unmoderated ng (hint: ed). The impossibility of taming a shrew aside, we have all seen who uncontrollably gets enraged when he does not get anyone to shill for him.



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[Jolly Roger]

On 2018-05-07, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:

> In article <news:flc3cn...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> That you can't say anything at all about your mysterious inability to
>> find a tor browser on the App Store for three literal *days* -
>> something average iOS uses did it in mere *minutes* - says everything
>> we need to know about your true motives. You're a sad old fart with
>> nothing better to do with your life than belittle complete strangers
>> in the Apple news groups. In the rods of your Dear Cheeto Leader,
>> "Sad, very sad."
>
> It's amazing that you, *Jolly Roger, the most average of iOS users*,
> thinks that you are a genius

The fact that you resort to claiming any average iOS user who is able to
find a tor browser in the App Store a whopping three days faster than
you "thinks they are a genius" is proof that you acknowledge how big of
an utter failure you truly are. While you bumble around with your
electronics, the average iOS user has already walked out the door, you
pathetic old fart.

[Steve Carroll]

On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 4:30:10 PM UTC-7, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

Steve Petruzzellis wants to punish us: If Steve Petruzzellis can't get attention here then no one will.

What did you expect from the lying imbecile? That Steve Petruzzellis crackhead has nothing to squander but time. He has nothing else. Especially not confidence. The herd members value being like everyone else in all things.

It's like a poorly written flyer. Steve Petruzzellis has already decided what he is going to say before he calls. What you say is ignored. What Doomsdrzej aka Sliver Slimer says is ignored. No-one gets it, only Doomsdrzej aka Sliver Slimer gets it. Why do you keep rephrasing yourself? Don't look now, but I think Steve Petruzzellis has a serious mancrush on Doomsdrzej aka Sliver Slimer.

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J Burns asked to be rated according to provable trolling measurements, which I obliged him with. J Burns claims that he uses Windows, while of course he never works with it to get any real work done and honesty pushed it.

Your system will crawl while finding a way to stop J Burns. In fact J Burns's lies only grew. So as might be expected I regret being kind to J Burns. While I am sure the trolls loved it, being nice to him made things worse. You're like a hippo in a chicken coop. We all see you hiding there and wonder how you can be so stupid. And you're so dumb you keep failing to see it.

I am working on a program which will be more than anything J Burns can do! And why the added requirement to debug JavaScript via an automated phone system in a server system? As always, J Burns didn't state this as part of his always growing 'criteria'. J Burns failed to give a single time of a prosperous company that has earned its position by not giving a shit about its consumers or wares.

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