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After all these years, is there still no New Pipe or Sky Tube functionality on iOS?

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Arlen H. Holder

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Sep 25, 2018, 11:44:39 PM9/25/18
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After all these years, is there New Pipe or Sky Tube functionality on iOS?
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As you're likely aware, these open source apps provide *privacy* while
searching, subscribing, watching, downloading, & stripping out audio from
YouTube videos, since the YouTube site never knows who you are when you use
these two free open-source apps on your mobile device.
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*Of course, in addition to _privacy_ you never see an advertisement ever!*

SkyTube website: http://skytube-app.com/
SkyTube at F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/free.rm.skytube.oss/

NewPipe website: https://newpipe.schabi.org/
NewPipe at F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

This basic and powerful app functionality has been on Android for years,
where, periodically, I check with you expert iOS users to see if Apple will
ever allow its users to have this powerful app functionality in a single
app (i.e., not a web browser for God's sake).
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Does iOS have such basic privacy and immense power in a single app?

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What is the link to that app if the answer is "yes"?

Arlen Holder

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Sep 30, 2018, 11:23:41 AM9/30/18
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 03:44:39 -0000 (UTC), Arlen H. Holder wrote:

> Does iOS have such basic privacy and immense power in a single app?

Why would Apple provide the user with _actual_ privacy?

All the user cares about, it seems, is to _feel_ safe.
Not actually _be_ safe.

To simply _feel_ safe, is all the Apple user actually cares about.

The Apple Marketing mommy tells the user to close the closet door.

nospam

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Sep 30, 2018, 11:44:59 AM9/30/18
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In article <poqppr$l7b$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
<arlen...@no.spam.net> wrote:

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> Why would Apple provide the user with _actual_ privacy?

it doesn't matter why. that's what they do.

Arlen Holder

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Sep 30, 2018, 11:47:10 AM9/30/18
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 11:44:59 -0400, nospam wrote:

> it doesn't matter why. that's what they do.

Except you don't have privacy on iOS that you have on Android when
searching, subscribing, viewing, downloading, or ripping YouTube videos.

HINT: *Apple Marketing is fantastic at making the user _feel_ safe.*

nospam

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Sep 30, 2018, 12:06:07 PM9/30/18
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In article <poqr5t$nci$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
<arlen...@no.spam.net> wrote:

> Except you don't have privacy on iOS that you have on Android when
> searching, subscribing, viewing, downloading, or ripping YouTube videos.

nonsense. google's entire business model is data mining to better sell
targeted ads, and they're not fooled by an open source app.

Arlen Holder

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Sep 30, 2018, 3:33:35 PM9/30/18
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 12:06:07 -0400, nospam wrote:

> nonsense. google's entire business model is data mining to better sell
> targeted ads, and they're not fooled by an open source app.

While I know you're not as dumb as, oh, say Savageduck or Alan Baker,
you seem to always conveniently forget that on iOS, you can't get rid of
the "Advertising ID" which, as you have forgotten, is easily done away with
on Android (by a variety of quite different methods, up to the user).

*The difference with you, nospam, is that you conveniently forget facts.*

nospam

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Sep 30, 2018, 3:47:11 PM9/30/18
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In article <por8ee$bmu$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
<arlen...@no.spam.net> wrote:

> you seem to always conveniently forget that on iOS, you can't get rid of
> the "Advertising ID" which, as you have forgotten, is easily done away with
> on Android (by a variety of quite different methods, up to the user).

the advertising id is not the only method of tracking someone, and on
ios, is not linked to the user's identity anyway.

google tracks people in ways they can't even imagine which means they
don't know what to block. in other words, you *are* leaking data.

Lewis

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Sep 30, 2018, 6:25:12 PM9/30/18
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In message <300920181547111042%nos...@nospam.invalid> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <por8ee$bmu$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
> <arlen...@no.spam.net> wrote:

>> you seem to always conveniently forget that on iOS, you can't get rid of
>> the "Advertising ID" which, as you have forgotten, is easily done away with
>> on Android (by a variety of quite different methods, up to the user).

> the advertising id is not the only method of tracking someone, and on
> ios, is not linked to the user's identity anyway.

And you can reset it any time you want.

> google tracks people in ways they can't even imagine which means they
> don't know what to block. in other words, you *are* leaking data.

Android is nothing more than a data harvester disguised as a smart
phone.

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A man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle.

Arlen Holder

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Sep 30, 2018, 6:53:25 PM9/30/18
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:25:11 -0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:

> Android is nothing more than a data harvester disguised as a smart
> phone.

While nospam apologizes for the huge privacy flaws in iOS by cleverly
trying to change the subject, you, Lewis, actually _believe_ what you
write.

HINT: Nospam doesn't believe a single word of what he writes.

The main point in this thread are the facts.

The fact is, on iOS, you're _more_ susceptible to privacy leaks, for a huge
variety of reasons, not the least of which is that you can't get rid of the
Advertising ID, and that you don't have any tools for searching,
subscribing, viewing, downloading, or ripping YouTube videos privately.

Arlen Holder

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Sep 30, 2018, 6:53:48 PM9/30/18
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 15:47:11 -0400, nospam wrote:

> The advertising id is not the only method of tracking someone, and on
> ios, is not linked to the user's identity anyway.

The main point is that the *fact* is, on iOS, you're _more_ susceptible to
privacy leaks, for a huge variety of reasons, not the least of which is
that you can't get rid of the Advertising ID, and that you don't have any
tools for searching, subscribing, viewing, downloading, or ripping YouTube
videos privately.

You can apologize all you want for the lack of any ability to rid the iOS
user of the Advertising ID, which is omitted on Android for any user that
wishes to do so (by a variety of methods).

> google tracks people in ways they can't even imagine which means they
> don't know what to block. in other words, you *are* leaking data.

That you wish to change the subject simply means you comprehend that iOS
just doesn't have the privacy tweaks that Android has, when it comes to
anonymous searching, subscribing, viewing, downloading, or ripping YouTube
videos.

*I accept that you understand that iOS is deficient in that privacy tool.*

The main point is that the *fact* is, on iOS, you're _more_ susceptible to
privacy leaks, for a huge variety of reasons, not the least of which is
that you can't get rid of the Advertising ID, and that you don't have any
tools for searching, subscribing, viewing, downloading, or ripping YouTube
videos privately.

I'm here to speak facts.
You Apple Apologists have no defense against facts.
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