Card Reader won't read 2Gb SD card
jammiedodger80
card reader.
It'll read all of my 128mb, 256mb, 512mb and 1gb SD cards no problem, but
won't read my 2gb card. Instead, it gives the message "you need to format
the disk in drive X: before you can use it. Do you want to format it?"
Now, if say yes, it brings up the "format disk" box, but shows the capacity
as being 969mb.
However, if I put the same card reader and the same cardback in my Windows
XP box, it reads it fine as being 2Gb.
Have also tried it with another card reader borrowed from a friend, with the
same result.
Any ideas?
Hugh Wyn Griffith
they issued a new BIOS update to deal with larger cards.
Might be worth checking for VISTA specific BIOS updates for your
machine.
jammiedodger80
Thanks for the suggestion.
Just tried that this morning, got the latest drivers for my board from the
MSI website, but it hasn't made a difference.
Hugh Wyn Griffith
Jammiedodger80 wrote:
> got the latest drivers for my board from the MSI website
That's for the motherboard? Did it include any BIOS update?
deadite66
jammiedodger80 <jammied...@discussions.microsoft.com> writes
i have the same problems, i believe it to be a windows driver problem.
both xp and vista refuse to read a 2gb sdcard via usb card reader but
the same hardware in Linux can read it perfectly.
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deadite66
Ed@discussions.microsoft.com Mister Ed
format an SD card > 1GB. My HP laptop had a 2001 vintage driver for the
reader. Once I updated the driver everything worked fine.
Matt Sciba
pictures, then one day when I put the card in the card reader, it
died. One of the pics looked corrupted and the whole card died within
seconds. The card is unreadable on my card reader, my camera, and my
printer card reader.
Matt
> I'm having the same problem with my 1GBSDcard. I was taking
> pictures, then one day when I put thecardin thecardreader, it
> died. One of the pics looked corrupted and the wholecarddied within
> seconds. Thecardis unreadable on mycardreader, my camera, and my
> printercardreader.
Btw, What is the brand and model of your card reader? I'm using an
IOGear GUH284R.
G4gir
in VISTA yet?. I have a Lexar USB 2.0 multicard reader an I get the same
problems of you must format before use and only 1Gb available, however in XP
no problem
Thanks
Ian
ma...@markbower.com
> Has anyone found a solution to getting the 2 or 4 Gb cards to be recognised
> problems of you must format before use and only 1Gb available, however in XP
> no problem
> Thanks
> Ian
>
>
>
> "Matt" wrote:
> > On Mar 21, 3:24 pm, "Matt Sciba" <matthewsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm having the same problem with my 1GBSDcard. I was taking
> > > pictures, then one day when I put thecardin thecardreader, it
> > > died. One of the pics looked corrupted and the wholecarddied within
> > > seconds. Thecardis unreadable on mycardreader, my camera, and my
> > > printercardreader.
>
> > IOGear GUH284R.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I have the same problem. Anyone found a solution yet?
Mark
XP. Tried 2 different card readers in Vista, so far no luck at all
with 2GB sd cards.
JW
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Martin Milichovský
it...
G4gir napsal:
Mark
> Seem to be a problem for many people, boys from Microsoft should fix
> it...
I've got the same problem. Can't read 2GB SD cards, but I can read
lower capacity ones. Tried 3 different brands of SD cards (Kingston,
Sandisk regular and Sandisk Extreme III). Have 2 different card
readers. Everything works fine on my XP laptop. I believe this to be
a Vista driver issue.
Mark
> Were you using an external USB card reader in either or both systems?
>
Yeah, have an external card reader that works fine in my XP laptop.
It fails to work with Vista. It's a Lexar card reader, tried
different brands of SD cards too. Also have an internal card reader
that doesn't work.
I can read lower capacity cards just fine on Vista with both readers.
jwst...@summitpyramid.com
recognizing 2mb sd cards--mine is a Patriot brand card.
I can boot into Windows 2000. It recognizes the card perfectly.
Seems to be a Vista bug for sure.
freddy
Does Device Manager display any alert information about the SD card reader?
For example, does it have a problem with this device? Need a driver, etc?
Also, see this information about a hot fix for some SD problem situations:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936825
Let us know if you find anything.
--
freddy
bigwater
bigwater
Title – Bug in Vista. Failure to read or recognize SD card in generic SD
card reader.
Hardware Description – Generic (brand) 6 in 1 USB flash card reader, a
product of Edge Digital Media phone 800 332 6581 (model CR-V10-U6) is
recognized by Vista and each slot is mounted as a drive. No errors are
reported in Device Manager in the storage and the USB and the System panes.
No other errors are reported on this computer. Computer is new, Gigabyte DS3
mobo, 1.83Ghz e4300 Core2Duo, 2g memory, runs Vista Home Premium with the
transparent effects.
The other hardware components: Nikon D40 digital camera that formats SD and
SDHC cards with the FAT (as reported in the card properties as read on an XP
computer that has no trouble reading a plain 2 gb SD card (about $15 at
mwave.com. Card works great in camera, XP and W2K. Should be a very popular
use for the media center centered Vista. Too bad Vista cannot read the card
with the pictures.) SD cards from Crucial and Patriot tested with identical
results.
The Microsoft driver that enumerates the SD card as a storage drive, is
dated 7/01/2001 version 5.1.2535.0 using files disk.wys, partmgr.sys, and
snapman.sys. Note that the card is read perfectly in Windows 2000 booted on
the identical PC that experiences the Vista SD card reader bug.
This is the behavior:
Vista recognizes the card reader as separate storage devices mounted as
drives in the file explorer. Device Manager reports no errors. All
recommended updates to Vista have been installed. The hot fix for SD cards,
KB936825, has been installed. No change in behavior.
When the card is inserted into the reader in Vista, a dialog reminiscent of
the Mac OS appears: You need to format the disk in drive M: before you can
use it. Do you want to format it? A "format disk" button is highlighted so
the inattentive user can trash all his pictures by hitting the Enter key.
Folks with digital cameras are trashing their creative work as you read this.
I saved the pictures on another computer and threw the card back into the
reader in Vista to see what happened. It did attempt the slowest formatting I
have ever seen. Agnonzingly slow. After about half an hour, and some time
spent on other endeavors, the job was done. The report said that the SD card,
a 2 gig model, was now formatted to 969 mb. The $15 2gb card is now a
somewhat more expensive 1 gb card. Fortunately, the Nikon D40 could reformat
the card in about 2 seconds. (Very nice camera BTW. It takes all the old
Nikon glass I have, and that is very cheap on eBay. Those old lenses are
great optically, and have lots of other special features. Oh, and they are
fabulously fast. Great for museums, restaurants, etc, without flash.)
Reproduction Steps – The behavior reproduces consistently.
Expected Results – Recognize and read data on SD card (Patriot and Crucial
brands) formatted as FAT. (FAT32 not specified, but probably used.) I can't
find a smaller SD card to test is it is seen by the OS. Reports on the net
seem to say that smaller cards may not have the problem. However, since large
capacity
Severity - This is not a system crash. However, millions of Vista owners
will want to uuse the media support in Vista to view photos. The use of high
capacity SD cards is huge and will only increase because of low prices and
the convenience of large memory sizes to hold large files.
Conclusion-
Inability to read and format SD ( and probably other) flash cards will
adversely affect the user experience of the media components in Vista.
bigwater
device. Driver file version is 6.0.6000. vista.rtm.061101-2205. Only two
files associated with this device: partmgr.sys and disk.sys. List lacks the
snapman.sys driver file that was present in the XP device driver file
listing. This might be significant.
huwyngr
it as a general warning for those that use SD cards both in their
camera and in a PC.
In any case have a look at this Panasonic utility:
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/sd_formatter.html
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SD Memory Card Formatting Software
Software Description
This software formats SD Memory Card and SDHC Memory Card(SD/SDHC
Memory Card) using a formatting program that complies with the SD
Memory Card specification SD formatting provides quick and easy access
to the SD Memory Card.
Generally, SD/SDHC Memory Card file systems formatted with generic
operating system formatting software do not comply with the SD Memory
Card specification.
It does not seem to be limited to Panasonic cameras and cards -- since
it says it formats to the SD Standards and there's a compatibility link
on the webpage that leads to a listing of compatible cards from many
different sources.
There's also a link to download the formatter.
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There's a lot of technical information about SD and SDHC here:
http://www.hjreggel.net/cardspeed/special-sd.html
and one can see from the progression of SD and SDHC versions that there
could easily be differences between the SD format and the PC format.
In another document it mentions that SDHC has several versions 2, 4, &
6 which indicate the transfer speed.
Hope that helps. If I were you I would download that formatter, usse it
on the SD card and see if that changes the situation. I'd refrain from
formatting outside the camera if you can unless you are just going to
use the SD card as flash memory for the PC.
I did have a what-might-be-similar problem with some Crucial 512MB CF
cards which would not reformat in the camera and when I called Crucial
on this they said they had had some reports of this happening and to
return the cards if I wanted to but that it had been found that
formatting the card in the PC and then re-formatting in the camera
seemed to overcome that one.
bigwater
Thank you for your thoughtful reply to my post. Fortunately, my camera will
format the card even though Vista will not. As you probably saw in my other
posts, W2k and XP, neither with any 3rd party help, will format the card. So
it seems to be a Vista problem. Since this newsgroup has many other posts
with SD card problems, I guess that the MS Vista team knows the situation and
is working on it.
In my case, Vista Premium will not even recognize that the card has anything
on it. In fact, it simply throws up its hands at the unknown card and
presents a dialog box asking to format it.
At the end of the posts here is a button for sending an opinion on whether
this response has been helpful. I confess that I have, to this point, been
"unhelpful", in the words of the late departed secretary of defense. I knew
that Vista would have compatibility issues going in. Since software
compatibility has been a problem, Acronis backup wants me to pony up for a
new copy in order to recover my files under Vista. In conclusion my "helpful"
vision: Install Vista as a "clean" install, but in the process, keep your old
copy of Windows on the PC. Vista will allow you to do this and it very nicely
presents the option on boot as "Start a previous version of windows". If you
need to run software that was licensed and running under that previous
version, you will be able to run it, perhaps restore some data, and save some
money in the bargain.
Hope the double boot suggestion was helpful. And there will be a service
pack 1.
bigwater
bigwater
external card reader is "mass storage compliant". It requires no software
installation of drivers to work in Windows 2K and XP. Booting into W2K on the
Vista PC shows that a clean W2K install, and no additional driver
installation, will result in a perfect performance from the 2Gb SD card.
Therefore, there is no motherboard bios issue involved.
For what it is worth: The Vista Driver file version is 6.0.6000.
vista.rtm.061101-2205. In comparing the Vista drivers to the ones that work
in XP, I discovered that in Vista, only two driver files are associated with
my card reader: partmgr.sys and disk.sys. In XP, an additional driver file,
snapman.sys, is present.
Guess all the SD card users who have all those new digital cameras will have
to wait for someone on the Vista team to take an interest in all the millions
of folks who will want to use all the Vista features to see their pictures.
Waiting for SP1 anyone?
huwyngr
wrote:
> In my case, Vista Premium will not even recognize that the card has anything
> on it. In fact, it simply throws up its hands at the unknown card and
> presents a dialog box asking to format it.
I guess you should count your blessings that it does ask before doing it!
I don't have any SD cards so I can't even try to see if it happens to me or
not.
You might consider asking in the Photographic forums attached to
www.dpreview.com or to Steve's Digicam forum -- Google should find them if you
don't already know them. They are invaluable sources of information on
photographic matters.
There is also a Photography Forum on Compuserve that you could try:
http://community.compuserve.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=ws-photography
Good luck -- I'll keep my eyes open.
bigwater
card from my Nikon D40: just leave the SD card in the camera and plug the
camera into the computer. Works great. Nikon seems to have gotten the SD card
situation under control. I may not be able to see the SD card in the card
reader, but I can see it fine when it is in the camera connected to the
computer. Didn't have to load any Nikon software, either.
Thanks again for your assistance.
Bigwater
bigwater
I ignore my old habit of using a card reader, and instead, leave the card in
the camera and read it into Vista from there. Guess that Nikon knows how to
do it. They ought to tell Microsoft how they did it.
Next question: can you put an SD card from the palm into the camera and read
it? Seems like I can. Can you write to the card in the camera? Seems like I
can. Can you install palm software onto the card in the Nikon? Will keep this
in mind.
So, if you want to read Palm SD cards in Vista, looks like you might need a
nice new Nikon SLR. Head down to accounting right now and get it authorized.
On the other hand, if you try this your company might never adopt Vista.
Maybe Nikon should be in the OS trade since their cameras have an OS that
works. Will we be able to download a new NikTix distro?
bigwater updating his last post.
huwyngr
Availability of the Windows Vista Secure Digital (SD) hotfix rollup
package
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/933847/en-us
However there's a not inside that KB article indicating that it's been
replaced by:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936825/
which includes download instructions for 32 bit and for 64 bit
versions.
I found the first KB in a thread Google turned up at:
http://www.austech.info/showthread.php?p=1145756
which also indicated that having ReadyBoost set to ON might affect
things.
Good luck!
huwyngr
Note that I've posted to someone else a reference to a MS Hotfix for SD
Card problems so you may want to follow that up -- there is a file you
can download from Microsoft although I won't say it will fix your
particular problem at least it shows MS knows about SD problems.
Here's the gist of it:
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Availability of the Windows Vista Secure Digital (SD) hotfix rollup
package
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/933847/en-us
However there's a note inside that KB article indicating that it's been
replaced by:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936825/
which includes download instructions for 32 bit and for 64 bit
versions.
I found the first KB in a thread Google turned up at:
http://www.austech.info/showthread.php?p=1145756
which also indicated that having ReadyBoost set to ON might affect
this.
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bigwater
2Gb SD card. I have the workaround of using the camera as an SD card reader
and it works fine, even on cards not formatted in the camera. I can read,
write, create folders, etc. on the card in the camera, just not on the card
in the card reader.
huwyngr
Mark
> Really strange -- if you ever sort it out do let us know!
I haven't found a solution yet either - though I can try using my
camera as the card reader. I do have 2 generic card readers, both of
which work fine with XP and Windows 2003 Server, without requiring any
drivers etc. Small capacity SD cards do work for me (my 1GB and 512MB
cards work ok), it's just the 2GB cards that won't work. I tried
Maxell, Sandisk and Kingston branded 2GB SD cards.
I also tried the SD hotfix, didn't change behaviour on my PC at all.
huwyngr
wrote:
> it's just the 2GB cards that won't work.
There's a known problem with earlier versions of one Toshiba laptop
group for which Toshiba say there is no solution except to use an
external card reader.
zuo...@gmail.com
no effect on USB card reader (using usbstor.sys and disk.sys). If you
believe your 2.0GB card in your card reader does not work under XP,
could you try to format the card and copy a >1GB file to it? If it
works, please let me know the brand and model of your card reader and
the card.
Thanks,
-yue
On Jun 25, 7:10 pm, huwyngr <Hugh_Wyn_Griff...@simpilot.net> wrote:
> In article <1182764966.473020.17...@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Mark
huwyngr
Please go back to the first message in the discussion and post the
message to the original poster.
handy
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DevilsPGD
>I am also have the same problem. My 9in1 works fine
>on XP, but not on two different Vista Machines.
>I currently have a problem opened up with MS.
>I believe it's their drivers since it works fine
>with a 1Gig SD Card
SD cards 2GB and larger are a somewhat different format, many card
readers need firmware upgrades (or a replacement card reader) to accept
2GB and larger cards.
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pedro_silva
I got the same problem here. I have a notebook hp nc6400 running windows
vista and it was not able to recognize correctly my 2GB SD card. The
solution above I found in a forum at HP.com.
Run regedit and edit the key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\tifm21\Parameters.
Change the value from 16 (Decimal) to 1. Reboot and voilà.
It worked fine for me... I hope it can work for you guys too.
Regards
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Barb Bowman
specific to TI controllers or a subset of them.
Before anyone tried this, they should back up the registry key.
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 06:18:03 +0530, pedro_silva
<pedro_sil...@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
>
>I got the same problem here. I have a notebook hp nc6400 running windows
>vista and it was not able to recognize correctly my 2GB SD card. The
>solution above I found in a forum at HP.com.
>
>Run regedit and edit the key:
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\tifm21\Parameters.
>Change the value from 16 (Decimal) to 1. Reboot and voilà.
>
>It worked fine for me... I hope it can work for you guys too.
>
>Regards
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MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
pedro_silva
Hi, the link is the following:
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1139027
As you said, I guess this solution applies only to card readers made by
Texas Instruments.
Best Regards
Barb Bowman
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:27:56 +0530, pedro_silva
<pedro_sil...@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
>
>Hi, the link is the following:
>http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1139027
>
>As you said, I guess this solution applies only to card readers made by
>Texas Instruments.
>
>Best Regards
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Barb Bowman
coljohnhannibalsmith
I have a similar thread here:
http://www.vistax64.com/drivers/105365-amd-chipset-drivers-vista.html
-John
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I love it when a plan comes together.
It keeps me "on the jazz!"
nekro
refresh.
MS really better fix this once and for all
danorr
philipdawson
I tried all the windows fixes mentioned above and all resulted in the error message "does not apply to this system".
philipdawson
adamdorion
i have a gateway ml6703 i have had it awhile when i first got it
windows n everything was already working, i have 2 mini sd cards one
is a sandisk 256mb and the other is simply a micro 2gb sd ( both out of
cell phones) they both used to work fine, needless to say i
reinslalled windows vista, finaly got my built in card reader to work
and read the sandisk 256mb no problems, yet for some reason now it
does nothing when i put the 2gb card in? what is the issue
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adamdorion
postma...@blueyonder.co.uk
> Installed Vista yesterday, and the only thing I'm having trouble with is my
> card reader.
>
> It'll read all of my 128mb, 256mb, 512mb and 1gb SD cards no problem, but
> won't read my 2gb card. Instead, it gives the message "you need to format
> the disk in drive X: before you can use it. Do you want to format it?"
>
> Now, if say yes, it brings up the "format disk" box, but shows the capacity
> as being 969mb.
> However, if I put the same card reader and the same cardback in my Windows
> XP box, it reads it fine as being 2Gb.
>
> Have also tried it with another card reader borrowed from a friend, with the
> same result.
>
> Any ideas?