Serenade on DVD

771 views
Skip to first unread message

Derek McGovern

unread,
Oct 4, 2011, 5:06:03 AM10/4/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
I have no idea whether this has been announced elsewhere, but I've just realized that the official Warner Bros. DVD of Serenade has already been out for two weeks: 


I'd been regularly checking tcm.com, but obviously I was looking in the wrong place! Critics' Choice appears to be the only online store offering the DVD at present.

I see the DVD is described as a widescreen release. That's good news! There's nothing (from what I can make out) on the cover about it being remastered---though as we know from our experience with The Student Prince, that can be an empty promise :) But I'll happily settle for a pristine copy of the film, and I've just ordered the DVD.

Fingers crossed! 

Derek McGovern

unread,
Oct 5, 2011, 12:31:03 PM10/5/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
A P.S. to the above: I realize that---unlike The Student Prince, Seven Hills of Rome and For the First Time---Serenade was not filmed in true widescreen (which is 2.35:1, or 2.35 times as wide as it is tall). However, my understanding is that Serenade's aspect ratio differed from Lanza's first four films, which were all in the then-standard 1.37:1. Always the odd one out of Lanza's movies, Serenade was filmed in the wider 1.66:1 format. What Warner Home Video's announcement of "widescreen" for this movie hopefully means, then, is that we'll see the full picture on this DVD release, as opposed to the presumably cropped version that we previously had on video. 

Has anyone else ordered this DVD? I'm getting quite excited about it.

Derek McGovern

unread,
Oct 5, 2011, 12:46:16 PM10/5/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
One further thought: On closer inspection, the cover of Serenade does indeed say "Remastered edition." With any luck, what that actually means is that the movie will be less grainy than The Great Caruso and (especially) Because You're Mine DVDs. 

leeann

unread,
Oct 5, 2011, 12:51:25 PM10/5/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Hi, Derek, given that my VCR is no longer functional, I'll pretty much be happy with almost anything. Possibly very happy.

I would be interesting to have more conversation on the thread Serenade the novel vs Serenade the film.

I'm continually struck by how this film is "the odd one out" as you say--not only of Lanza's movies, but of Anthony Mann's, and maybe in the way this particular Cain novel was adapted to the screen--compared to, say, Mildred Pierce or The Postman Always Rings Twice.  And now to learn, even the technology is an exception!

So, it's maybe like looking at a photographic negative--new things are apparent from a different point of view. So, yes, it's ordered. Best, Lee Ann

Derek McGovern

unread,
Oct 7, 2011, 6:49:44 AM10/7/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Hi Lee Ann: Speaking of Serenade being the odd one out, not only of Lanza's films but of Anthony Mann's, I've just come across this interesting tidbit on Mann's (apparent) motives for making the movie in Volume One of World Film Directors (1987) by John Wakeman:

"'One tries in vain to see what could have attracted Mann to this [movie],' wrote a bemused Jean Wagner [in a 1968 article for Anthologie du Ciné]; the answer, apparently, was sympathy for Lanza, whose career was in a bad way. 'It was one of those things . . . I should never have approached, but I'm glad I did it,' Mann remarked later. 'At least it got [Lanza] a couple more pictures before he died.'" (p. 728)

What do you make of that?! Was Mann looking for excuses to justify his unusually flat direction, or had he really been guided by altruism? Or was it a bit of both?

Cheers
Derek 

Armando

unread,
Oct 7, 2011, 6:25:19 PM10/7/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com

Hi Derek: I think that Mann’s statement was a combination of both. He genuinely liked Lanza and could have (and should have) made a much better job of directing had he not fallen in love and been totally smitten by Sarita Montiel.

leeann

unread,
Oct 9, 2011, 8:13:07 PM10/9/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Mann sounds a wee bit self-serving to me! 

After all, Serenade wasn't a huge smash at the box office or in the press. Surprisingly, among major newspapers, the usually rather critical New York Times might be about the kindest! (second row from the bottom; second from the left at http://www.mariolanzatenor.com/movies.html)

There doesn't seem to be any disagreement anywhere about Mann's "unusually flat direction": not on this forum, among critics, biographers, among film historians, and apparently not even in Mann's revisionist memories.  In fact, whether they strive for balance or they're out-and-out paeans, some Mann retrospectives, just ignore this movie altogether.

My comments are all suspect until the DVD comes, but cautiously, I think I'm inclined to put a little more weight on the factor saying that Mann was excusing his role in the movie--despite his relationship with Lanza.

The studio assigned this movie to Mann. Whether he could've opted out, well given the point of his career and the studio system, probably it was safer not to, so altruism isn't really on the table. But this wasn't the first time the studio had assigned a movie to Mann, and all the factors were there for a successful film--and a film that could have fit into his repertoire. The noir themes are there, familiar Mann themes are there: the hero in an identity crisis, in the throes of psychological change--and more.

Jeanine Basinger, who's probably written the best critical work on Mann's career, (simply and appropriately called Anthony Mann, see pp. 142-143 for a discussion of Serenade) categorizes this as one of four films that are kind of off of Mann's radar. Surprisingly though, she doesn't blame the soap operatic script [her words] or Lanza, saying he "was actually a vibrant, self-confident presence. He had real star quality..." She does say that neither he nor Sarita Montiel are great actors, but claims that Mann knew how to get the best out of them. 

The problem is, while she highlights what Mann did well in this film, she never probes what he failed to do--the "should'a, would'a, could'a" factors. She excuses him, saying it's the only film he made where his directorial presence can't be felt, that it wasn't tailored to his skills.  (I'd REALLY argue that).

Without getting into issues of scripting and it's adaptation from Cain's book under discussion on Serenade the novel vs. Serenade the film, I wonder if Armando hasn't best stated what analysts of Mann's body of work ignore: Mann fell in love.

And what went on behind the scenes, the human relationships between Mann and Montiel, Mann and Lanza, Lanza and Albanese, Lanza and Tebaldi are as interesting as the film itself. (See An American Tragedy, pp 197-211)

And then there's the music...   Best, Lee Ann






leeann

unread,
Oct 14, 2011, 12:27:25 AM10/14/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
The Serenade DVD arrived amazingly fast--in a matter of days really.

But it's a work night--so just a sneak peak, and just on a computer with headphones, which is actually a huge step up from watching a very used tape on a very, very worn out VCR player.

I think, though, this version is as advertised--an as-is reproduction and there spots with film grain and filter changes from scene to scene from blue to green to reddish tints.

But the cinematography is beautiful, compelling and worth remastering.  And the sound is magnificent, without variation, and it leaps out in high relief amid the ins and outs of the script.

So, like recent Lanza releases on DVD, this is a no frills version--just the movie and a trailer that's both musically and dramatically over-the-top and should have led to audiences storming theaters for tickets!  (The movie and the trailer are in different aspect ratios).

But I'm glad to have it and look forward to more detailed reviews and discussions later! (And to watching it on a bigger screen!) Best, Lee Ann




Michael McAdam

unread,
Oct 14, 2011, 8:46:16 AM10/14/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Hey Lee Ann:  I was waiting with tainted breath for a review from you and/or Derek after your copies arrived. Thanks for that 'quickie'. My cautious (and Scottish ;-) traits had kicked in and I was waiting to see what this Serenade DVD was like from the perspective of the discerning Lanzaphiles here on the Forum.
 
I have only seen (or heard of) a bare handful of DVD musicals which were released on DVD and worth a rave; Seven Brides for Seven Brothers would be one. Great job there.
So, I'll wait for your more in-depth review and from others here before I put this one on my Christmas list next to The Student Prince.
 
Mike

Derek McGovern

unread,
Oct 14, 2011, 9:20:46 AM10/14/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Hi Lee Ann: Many thanks for posting that mini-review so quickly despite your busy schedule. I'm very happy to hear that the sound quality is excellent, and I'm sure I can put up with some colour variations! (The WarnerColor always was a little peculiar, anyway.)

My own copy was sent on Monday, so I should have it within the next four or five days. Can't wait to check out the film on a 60" TV screen! It'll be fascinating to find out if indeed the picture had been cropped on earlier versions.

Cheers
Derek

JOE

unread,
Oct 17, 2011, 11:47:33 AM10/17/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
I also received my copy of the  Serenade DVD and I am quite pleased with it. It filled my 42" flat screen TV with good color and the sound was excellent. It also "seemed" to me that I heard less echo and a little less "over the top" volume by Mario. It was also fun to review the movie again and I wish to add some comments on the movie, itself: First of all, I think Lanza's acting ( save a few hammy scenes) was very credible. I don't think the critics give him his just due on this. He appeared quite "chubby" in a few of the Mexican scenes; it was a shame  they were not shot again when he was trimmer since he looked quite good in most of the movie. I definitely recommend this purchase....Joe

Derek McGovern

unread,
Oct 24, 2011, 12:04:33 AM10/24/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Well, my copy of Serenade finally arrived this morning. I haven't had time to watch the whole thing yet, but what I've seen so far is excellent. Great sound---the best I've heard it---with even the pinched final high C on "Di Quella Pira," for example, sounding, actually, pretty good. The Otello Monologue sounds magnificent, with the added bonus that the dropout on "acqueto" is barely audible now.

It's clearly not the same print as used on the commercial VHS release. For one thing, the God-awful rendition of "Serenade" that's sung over the opening credits on the VHS version is absent here. Hallelujah! The colour differs from the VHS version too.

There's a reasonable amount of grain in the picture, but there's so much more detail apparent now that I'm happy to have that trade-off. The extra detail is fascinating, in fact, especially in the way it emphasizes Lanza's very expressive features.

Sam Samuelian had reported elsewhere that the original 1.66 ratio had been cropped to accommodate the full screen format of today's HD televisions. Well, I wasn't aware of any cropping; the opposite, in fact. While I haven't watched it on our 58" PDP yet, I can say that when viewed on my notebook computer, there's more of the original frame than we've seen before on both the right and the left sides of the picture. It is like seeing the film with fresh eyes. I've just compared the VHS with this DVD, and the former seems claustrophobic by comparison because of its cropping.

So, yes, highly recommended!! I can't wait for a free evening (a vain hope at the moment) so that I can sit down with a few glasses of wine and really savour the whole film.

By the way, a smack on the hand for Critics' Choice Videos, who sent me this DVD in an unpadded thin bag that offered no protection of its contents whatsoever. As a result, the case arrived all bent and snapped off at the top. Armando: I know you've ordered this as well, so I hope yours arrives in better condition!

Cheers
Derek

Joseph Fagan

unread,
Oct 24, 2011, 10:09:09 AM10/24/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Critics Choice also screwed up my order too, Derek, in that I received TWO copies! ( I had ordered Serenade plus the Great Caruso)...so now, I had to go through the irritation of writing a letter, and returning one of the copies. Like you, I am VERY pleased with the DVD , for the same reasons, and I also have recommended it......Joe

Derek McGovern

unread,
Oct 24, 2011, 7:17:51 PM10/24/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Hi Joe: Well, to be fair to Critics' Choice, within minutes of my complaining to them about their service, they apologized and offered to send me a second copy of Serenade. They're temporarily out of stock, however, so perhaps the extra copy you're returning will find its way to South Korea :)

Cheers
Derek

Derek McGovern

unread,
Oct 26, 2011, 9:44:04 AM10/26/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Just following on from my earlier comments: I've had a chance this evening to watch most of the film on a large TV (a 58-inch PDP). In between numerous interruptions, this is what I thought of the DVD:

I'm very happy with it. Faces are a bit on the red side at times, and, as Lee Ann noted, there are quite a few colour variations (and, especially early on, some startling variations in grain), but these are minor quibbles. The Mexican scenes, in any event, look gorgeous. Beautiful colours in the bullfight/dance scene, and, oh, I love those dramatic clouds in the gloriously hammy confrontation scene!

The sound? Well, for the most part it's excellent. "La Danza" is as clear as a bell, but I would have liked a little more resonance on it. "Torna a Surriento" and "My Destiny" sound terrific. There's some wow on "Di Quella Pira" that unfortunately lasts into the next scene, and makes Mario's high C (actually it's a B!) at the party sound uncomfortably wobbly. Fortunately, the sound returns to excellent for the Otello Monologue.

Among the other vocal selections, I was more than ever aware of how badly out of sync the first half of both the Lamento and "Nessun Dorma" are. In fact, they're so far out that I'd say it wasn't poor miming on Lanza's part that's the problem, but a simple case of the soundtrack and film becoming temporarily unsynchronized. The sound is excellent, though, and I found myself enjoying "Nessun Dorma" more than usual. In fact, the same goes for "Serenade" at the end of the film---it's the best I've heard it, and with warmth replacing echo, it's actually not all that bad. (And, of course, it works histrionically in the context of the film.)

I do wish the volume were a little louder, though, especially from the "Lamento" onwards.

Yes, there's definitely more picture on the left and right-hand sides. However, I quickly realized that there's been some horizontal cropping from the top of the frame. Oh well, I'd much rather have it this way!

Cheers
Derek  

P.S. I was reminded yet again what a jarring cut there is on the soundtrack at the point when Juana rushes out of Joan Fontaine/Kendall's house. The way the music jumps from the shot of Juana running out and then back to Mario strongly suggests that something was cut here. It's a sloppy piece of aural editing, in any event!

Joseph Fagan

unread,
Oct 26, 2011, 3:18:13 PM10/26/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
I agree with all your comment, Derek ,( as I have posted previously) and I was especially appreciative of losing that dreadful echo at the end.
 
 I wanted to bring up a story about Serenade that I had mentioned to you once a long time ago: I unfortunately do not remember the source now but it is nevertheless an interesting tale ( if true). I was wondering if anyone else ever heard it, Supposedly, in the scene where Mario wakes up ill in the Mexican hotel, he was actually quite "hung over" and the director allowed it as it substituted for real acting and fit the scene. Myth or real, I don't know. Has anyone else ever heard or read this?

Derek McGovern

unread,
Oct 28, 2011, 6:11:22 AM10/28/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Hi Joe: You mentioned that "hangover" story a few years ago on this forum (I found it on our interesting "Lanza as an Actor" thread by typing in "hungover" in the forum search box). I said at the time that it was news to me! It's certainly not mentioned in any of the biographies, and it's hard to imagine it appearing in any of the promotional articles for the film. Armando does make the point in his book, though, that Serenade's producer Henry Blanke (whom he interviewed) felt that an overweight and disheveled Lanza was the right look for the film's Mexican scenes.

Speaking of which, yesterday I managed to acquire a copy of the Serenade screenplay (!), and, to my surprise, I discovered that the film was originally meant to begin in Mexico, with Mario/Damon collapsing in his hotel room and murmuring (as Juana helps him), "There's no way back." Oh, what a beginning that would have been!

I'll write more about the screenplay on our Serenade and Anthony Mann thread when I get a free moment, but for now I'll just say that the movie could have been significantly better if only Mann had followed the explicit directions of his scenarists!

Cheers
Derek

 

JOE

unread,
Oct 28, 2011, 9:20:46 AM10/28/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
For sure it was not in any of the biographies. It sounds like something out of one of those "rag" magazines one sees while checking out of a super market . Most likely, something fabricated similar to the" Lanza was fired from SP for being too fat ". He did look pretty bad in those scenes, however.
 
BTW, what do the initials "PDP" stand for ( a flat screen TV?)...electronics dummie here. e.g.  I am probably the only person in the USA who does NOT own a cell phone..lol

Derek McGovern

unread,
Oct 28, 2011, 9:26:59 AM10/28/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Hi Joe: PDP stands for Plasma Display Panel. There's an article on Wikipedia that explains the term better than I ever could:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display

Cheers
Derek

Michael McAdam

unread,
Oct 28, 2011, 10:10:57 AM10/28/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Hey Kiwi:
As Ringo Starr said so deadpan in A Hard Day's Night, "don't hide behind a smokescreen of bourgeois clichés".
Over here, colloquially,  we call 'em FSD's - Flat Screen Displays; both Plasma and LCD (or TFT as it should be called).
So there ! ;-))
 
M.
Message has been deleted

Derek McGovern

unread,
Oct 28, 2011, 11:05:01 AM10/28/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com

Young Mike: Here in Korea, PDP and LCD are two quite different beasts, and from what I've seen in exhausting trips to Busan electronic stores, the former is definitely easier on the eye than the latter!

And now shall we get back to Serenade? :)

Message has been deleted

Armando

unread,
Oct 31, 2011, 2:41:56 AM10/31/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com

The much anticipated DVD of Serenade has finally arrived and, overall, I am pleased with it, but how they can claim it’s a remastered edition is beyond comprehension.  The most important part, the sound, is really quite good (strangely wobbly high C, though, in the restaurant scene) but the colour in the picture varies quite a bit from scene to scene E.G. very red in the My Destiny sequence. There is also considerable  grain when viewed on our 46inch plasma, a lot of it is no doubt due to having blown up the ratio from the original 1.66:1 to 1:85.1

I guess we must be grateful that at last the film is available on DVD even if it is under false pretences.

I have been reading the Serenade script (courtesy of our Derek) and find it totally fascinating. What a film this could have turned out with a little more care and concentration on Mann’s part and closer adherence to the script.

In the script the film begins with a flashback of the burned out Damon in Mexico. It would have made a perfect start and with a little more elaboration on Damon’s infatuation with Kendall the whole thing would have made more sense.  They should also have retained the scene (153) between Damon and Kendall in the dressing room, which preceded the meeting between Kendall and Winthrop in the lobby at the Arlesiana performance and possibly the following scenes (154 –155) which were omitted. 

I also think that the choice of some of the camera angles was unfortunate. You don’t place a 5’7’ person who also happens to be the leading actor next to the 6’4” Vincent Price.

Nor do you film in close up, lying on his side in bed, someone that weighs over a hundred kilos. Mann should also have asked for less grimacing in places such as at the table in the scene with Tonio (43) whe Damon wants to quit, and, again, towards the end of scene (57) when Kendall tells Damon that she didn’t ask the sculptor whether he is in love with her. Mind you, Lanza has some excellent moments in both of these scenes and he is very good for the major part of the film.

And lastly, all of the music, including the entire Otello duet and the scene where he sings My Destiny with orchestra, should have been retained. Cutting the film down to 121 minutes was a mistake. 

 

 

 

 

Derek McGovern

unread,
Oct 31, 2011, 11:49:19 PM10/31/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Ciao Armando: Watching Serenade with fresh eyes on the DVD highlighted a lot of the things you mentioned about the actual film for me as well.

Yes, the camera angles are unfortunate at times, especially before and during the "Nessun Dorma" scene. I also feel that the close-up of a supposedly weakened Damon waking up from his two-week fever heavier than ever---and clean shaven to boot!---was a bizarre decision. The Lamento di Federico scene could have been better too; that long shot of Lanza in profile walking and singing just doesn't work. Some of the other photography, though, is spectacular, particularly during the Otello Monologue and in the San Miguel sunset confrontation scene. I also love the dramatic way Damon's exit from Kendall's apartment is filmed (after destroying the bust). Mann, incidentally, is the only director of a Lanza film whom I feel uses his camera creatively---panning, zooming, using trucking shots, etc.

But they say a film performance is made in the editing room, and Serenade is no exception. As well as asking Mario to tone down the grimaces (as you pointed out), Mann could easily have eliminated many of the hammier moments through careful editing. During the outdoor (San Miguel) confrontation scene with Montiel, for example, Mann could have chosen not to cut back to Lanza in a couple of instances, keeping the camera on Juana. (He had the choice, since the scene was clearly filmed at least twice from both actors' perspectives.) And he certainly didn't need to spoil the confrontation with Kendall ("You're taking the part of Otello much too seriously") by cutting back to Damon---especially if a hammy grimace was all that he had to work with :)

Mann must have considered Lanza a reasonable actor, though; why else would a director of his calibre have been so keen to work with him again? (Unless, of course, it was only for the money. But I don't sense that Mann was that type of person.) 

Cheers
Derek        
 

 
Message has been deleted

Armando

unread,
Nov 1, 2011, 8:56:15 PM11/1/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com

Hi Derek: I watched Serenade in it’s entirety last night and regardless of plot faults, grainy picture or changing colour, all I can tell you is that I was totally blown away by Lanza’s singing.

The man was a musical phenomenon and in Serenade he is vocally outstanding.  Lanza is in spectacular voice for the most part, with a column of sound even throughout it’s entire range, solid as a rock, yet with such dynamics to enable him to shift from the dramatic intensity of Otello to the delicate handling of Schubert’s Ave Maria, all the while retaining the magnificent colouring of the voice and it’s brilliant top. I know of no other tenor that combines all this attributes along with such complete involvement and total identification with the music, the plot and the character. Add to this a large a dose of charisma, stage presence and good looks and you have what in operatic circles  is commonly know as a stage animal, or a complete singing actor. 

There’s no question that in 1955 Lanza was more than ever ready for the operatic stage, and had he been able to make the move at that particular point I have not the slightest doubt that he would have reigned supreme as the ultimate spinto.

Lanza is magnificent in the Otello Monologue and the snippet of the duet from the same opera. He is vocally perfect and fantastic in his total understanding the role.

Furthermore, that a voice that size could handle the difficult tessitura of Di Rigori Armato and deliver ringing B flats and B natural with extreme ease is in itself a miracle.

By this stage Lanza was also perfectly suited to such operas as Fedora, Trovatore, L’Africana, and Turandot. Amor ti vieta and O Paradiso are simply stunning and Nessun dorma, including the final B natural, has never sounded better. Even Di Quella Pira has it’s moments, and in view of the overall sound being produced one can easily overlook the fact that that two high Cs could have been better.

There are outstanding moments in other Lanza films, such as the Vesti La Giubba in The Great Caruso, Addio alla Madre in Because You’re Mine, and the operatic excerpts in For the First Time, but for a voice at the peak of it’s powers Serenade can hardly be bettered.

It’s a film that should be seen and heard by the doubting Thomases, providing, that is, they have sufficient knowledge of the operatic voice and what constitutes an opera singer. 

 

 

 

 

Message has been deleted

Derek McGovern

unread,
Nov 1, 2011, 11:01:42 PM11/1/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Caro Armando: What a great post, and thanks for reminding us about something we too often take for granted: that the man was a vocal and musical prodigy.

Listening to the singing in this film, it's easy to understand why RCA boss Emmanuel Sachs exclaimed on hearing it, "Throw out everything else and stick to this. The man is a musical phenomenon." And that was from the man who had been blown away (and moved to tears) by Lanza's soundtrack to The Student Prince.

I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought that "Nessun Dorma" had never sounded better. That slightly pinched quality (from "Tramontate" onwards) is almost gone here, and those three brilliant high As in succession are quite a thrill. Could Mario have improved on it? Sure, but had this performance featured in practically any other Lanza film, it would have been regarded as a vocal highlight. (It could have singlehandedly redeemed Seven Hills of Rome!) The fact that it's one of the few lesser operatic performances in the film says an awful lot about the calibre of the singing in Serenade.

Cheers
Derek

Armando

unread,
Nov 2, 2011, 4:10:59 AM11/2/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com

Ciao Derek: I think that taking Lanza for granted is probably something we all subconsciously do from time to time. That’s why I tend to not listen to his recordings or view his films too frequently.  When I do, the result is almost akin to rediscovering him again and be totally mesmerised by his towering talent. 



 

Message has been deleted

Derek McGovern

unread,
Nov 6, 2011, 1:58:59 AM11/6/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Ciao Armando: Speaking of being "mesmerised," I've just been watching the musical numbers again from Serenade, and I now feel I didn't praise this DVD highly enough in my earlier comments here. The sound is magnificent.

Listening to Lanza's singing in this film---and not just the highlights either---it struck me that only a musical ignoramus could fail to be bowled over by the combination of artistry and vocal splendour on display here. It also utterly refutes that tired old nonsense about Lanza's vocal glory days ending with the Coke Shows or "Song of India."

Anyone who cares about great operatic singing and a tenor voice at its best should get this DVD, and I passionately hope that it reaches people who had previously dismissed Mario Lanza.

Cheers
Derek

Armando

unread,
Nov 6, 2011, 5:35:12 PM11/6/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com

Ciao Derek: Those fixated on the Coke days voice fail to understand that the singing during this period was mostly totally unrestrained, stylistically poor and technically uneven, with some abominable orchestrations and conducting to boot.  The voice itself, with few exceptions, was consistently brilliant but, particularly in the songs, Lanza was using a more open tone and letting the voice rip with complete abandon, throwing caution to the wind.

Both the voice and the singer in Serenade are a totally different matter. The voice, while retaining its brilliant colouring, is darker, but the singer is stylistically and technically miles ahead from the Coke days. It’s obvious that he had worked seriously on the music with the great coach, Giacomo Spadoni and that he benefited greatly from Ray Heindorf superior conducting.

The overall result from someone that had been inactive for the best part of three years is close to miraculous, with a towering Lanza both vocally and interpretively.

Roger Brown, wrote in the September 29, 1956, edition of Saturday Review,

“The voice of Mario Lanza yearns towards the operatic stage and I dare predict it will carry him there.” 

Had fate been kinder, Brown’s prophecy might well have become a reality. However, I can think of no greater Operatic Testament from Lanza than his outstanding singing in Serenade.

Had more of this sort of singing and less of the Coke one been peddled by his recording company we may encounter less resistance when discussing Lanza with the more enlightened opera connoisseurs.

I guess one can dream……..

 

 

Derek McGovern

unread,
Nov 14, 2011, 11:29:24 PM11/14/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Ciao Armando: Although I don't agree with all of Brown's comments, his article is definitely one of the more perceptive pieces on Lanza that appeared during his lifetime. In effect, Brown was telling Mario, "Look, for God's sake, you don't belong in the movies---you're an opera singer. Get out while there's still time, and achieve your full potential."

If only Lanza had followed that advice! In fact, if he'd left the movies after Serenade, that film would have provided a fitting end to his movie career. It is the best representation we have of his operatic singing.

Still, I am grateful for the magnificent operatic singing he left us in For the First Time, and I'm quite excited at the prospect of that film being released on DVD soon, and in (hopefully) excellent sound. Can we dare to hope for the soundtrack to be in stereo this time?

And while I think of it, is anyone planning to buy the DVD of Seven Hills of Rome? That's presumably next on the release list. Earlier this year, I was told that all the remaining Lanza films were going to be released on DVD by the end of 2011, so it can't be far away. I may give that one a miss, however :)

Cheers
Derek


leeann

unread,
Nov 15, 2011, 9:13:39 AM11/15/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
This wonderful (and helpful) conversation about Lanza's amazing musical work in Serenade--to say nothing of recent discussions on other threads--came to mind yesterday when I read an article by screenwriter and now, film director ,William Monahan (The Departed, Edge of Darkness, Body of Lies, and now London Boulevard--quite a different genre than Lanza films!). He was explaining how he watches movies and thinks about them.

The mature cineaste does not mind that he is looking at a flawed form. He trolls it all for what plays. ...Watching a film is like watching a crowd: You don't fall in love with everybody in it. Once you grasp this, you grasp all, and cherish films for their moments of glory, and you never, ever, make a case for their overall perfection.

Clearly that is what discussions of Serenade are doing on this forum and the musical moments of glory are unsurpassed!  Too bad film historians and critics haven't yet taken a closer look.   Best, Lee Ann

Barnabas Nemeth

unread,
Nov 15, 2011, 10:35:43 AM11/15/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
I've just received my copies of Serenade (incidentally 2 copies, but I don't mind), and I'm amazed the quality of the sound. It's much better than that of VHS or CD's. Good job WB!
Barnabas

Heidi

unread,
Nov 15, 2011, 3:36:15 PM11/15/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Some days ago I recieved my copy of Serenade, and I am very glad that I bought it. I never saw such clear pictures on my video, and the sound is really great.
Cheers from Heidi

Derek McGovern

unread,
Nov 15, 2011, 10:39:08 PM11/15/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Good to hear that Barnabas and Heidi are enjoying their DVDs of Serenade!

Lee Ann: I love that quote from William Monahan, and, yes, it definitely applies to Serenade. I work with a young Canadian (from P.E.I., Mike and Gary!) who's one of the biggest film buffs I know, and he feels---as I do---that it's so often the flawed films that engage us the most. (We've even watched a couple of scenes from Serenade in the office; he liked some of Mann's touches.) We've spent hours discussing favourite scenes and performances from films that would never meet the usual criteria of a masterpiece, but which nevertheless continue to give us both great pleasure. And I think it's telling that none of us here has felt compelled to analyze what works and what doesn't in, say, The Great Caruso or The Toast of New Orleans---two much more polished films---and yet we keep coming back to Serenade, warts and all.

I may just steal that quote from Monahan for my Serenade article :)

Cheers
Derek

Armando

unread,
Nov 17, 2011, 4:39:00 AM11/17/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com

Hi Derek: Saying goodbye to films after Serenade would certainly have been ideal. But, again, apart from the disastrous situation of his finances( most of the earnings from Serenade had gone on the purchase of the Bel Air home and he still had unpaid taxes)  there was a question of confidence. This was no longer the self -assured man of merely 4 years earlier. Behind the façade and the bravado was a man whose psyche and self- esteem had suffered an almost fatal blow.

To imagine that in that particular frame of mind he could have attempted a return to opera is, in my mind, totally inconceivable.

I do believe, though, that had he been able to get his health in order and work seriously with someone like Peter Herman Adler or Tullio Serafin or Oliviero De Fabritis, (the latter, following Tebaldi’s instigation, was interested in working with him) it could well have happened in the 60s.

Of course, this latest of mine will do nothing to change the mind of those that are forever accusing us of dreaming.Frankly, they would be better off  keeping totally silent since their understanding of operatic matters and operatic singing is completely non existent.

But then again-ignorance is bliss!

 

Derek McGovern

unread,
Nov 17, 2011, 8:49:30 AM11/17/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
A message from Tony:

I've enjoyed the DVD of SERENADE and do think it an improvement,
overall, compared to the VHS release.  To be specifically critical
though, there are certain things about the DVD that I notice and that
have been touched upon on this forum, i.e.: the inconsistent
coloration from scene to scene, the volume changes, etc.  In general
though, a glad and welcome addition to the Lanza video catalog.

One note - perhaps really a question.  There is a very brief scene,
just before Mario sings "Nessun dorma," that takes place in what looks
like a back alley or, more likely, the stage entrance to the opera
house, and it show Joan Fontaine getting out of a car and walking into
the opera house.  It's very brief, only a few seconds, and I am
thinking to myself that this little shot is not in the VHS version I
have.  I have not had time to check and indeed it's a very minor
thing, but it is something that occured to me when my wife and I
watched the DVD version.  Any thoughts?

Ciao ~ Tony

Hi Tony: That little scene is in the VHS version of the film that I have, though I guess it's quite possible that it was cut from some TV broadcasts.

Cheers
Derek

Vincent Di Placido

unread,
Dec 20, 2011, 4:44:13 PM12/20/11
to Mario Lanza, Tenor
I have finally caught up with my Lanza dvd purchases & got my own
copies of "The Great Caruso", "Because You're Mine", "The Student
Prince" & "Serenade" from Critics Choice along with my Warner's double
bill dvd of "That Midnight Kiss" & "The Toast of New Orleans" I now
have great prints of these 6 Lanza movies... But one of the major
revelations for me was the warm rich sound now that I am not listening
to the sped up result of the PAL video system, it made me appreciate
the singing, especially on the "Great Caruso" soundtrack. Compared to
the copies I had before I am very impressed with these releases, nice
to have them in official releases. I noticed some details I hadn't
noticed before, A great widescreen print of "For The First Time" would
be great next...

Derek McGovern

unread,
Dec 25, 2011, 8:30:43 AM12/25/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Hi Vince: I'm glad to hear you've caught up with those DVD releases. Hearing these movies at the right speed does make a big difference, doesn't it? As you know, I can't stand hearing Mario sped up a semitone---especially on the pre-Serenade films, where the raise in pitch makes him sound quite nasal at times. (It's also not very flattering to his speaking voice!) Of course, it's confused a lot of people on YouTube----I see comments all the time about the high C# that Lanza supposedly hits on the Because You're Mine "Granada" (when we both know it's really "only" a C :))

I still remember how amazed my youngest brother and I were by the richness of Lanza's middle and lower registers when we attended a screening of That Midnight Kiss in 1978. (It was at a get-together of the NZ Mario Lanza Society.) We were so used to hearing sped-up Lanza on TV whenever his films were shown that it really was a revelation to hear the true voice in all its glory.

I'm sure For the First Time will be released in widescreen (just as the laserdisc was in the 1990s). A real bonus would be a stereo version for once! Anyway, we should know pretty soon...

Cheers
Derek

Michael McAdam

unread,
Dec 27, 2011, 4:24:42 PM12/27/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Vince: the video standards people figured the difference between the PAL frame (2 interlaced fields) at 25 per sec (Hz) was pretty close to the cinema standard 24 fps and didn't cause "much" trouble.
Our North American 30Hz refresh rate (with two 60 Hz fields) was a bit weird, especially for the audio, so 'pulldown' technology was employed over here so that a perceptible speedup wasn't experienced.
I know NZ and Oz both have PAL systems also but not sure of the refresh rate. Maybe the same as Canada producing the speedup Derek mentions? Dunno.
Oops....didn't mean to get so technical. 
 
Watching these newer DVD releases on a HiDef outfit is very rewarding. As you say, they take on a new life and one notices all sorts of little things for the first time.
 
Cheers, Mike 

Derek McGovern

unread,
Dec 28, 2011, 9:24:44 AM12/28/11
to mario...@googlegroups.com
Hi Mike: I don't know about the "refresh rate" in Canada, but I can tell you that films shown on TV and released on video in NZ, Australia, and Britain run a semitone fast because of the PAL system. That's quite significant in terms of what it does to a singer's voice---making the top notes brighter (and higher, of course), but taking away much of the singer's resonance. The Student Prince, for example, sounded dreadful sped up on a TCM broadcast in New Zealand just a few years back, particularly during the Drinking Song. I also remember watching The Toast of New Orleans on video in the 1980s with a group of university friends who were studying singing, and as soon as they heard Mario's voice on the title song over the opening credits, they complained that he had a nasal sound. He didn't, of course, but I can certainly understand how that semitone shift fooled them. 

Films shown on the North American NTSC broadcast system definitely run at the right speed.

Cheers
Derek 
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages