[maker-devel] augustus underpredicting

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Xabier Vázquez-Campos

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Sep 10, 2017, 9:03:33 PM9/10/17
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Hi,
I have been annotating a fungal genome as usual, using Busco-trained Augustus (in addition to GeneMark and SNAP), but for some reason, Augustus is predicting a mere 207 genes compared to 15-20k from the other two.
I've never had this problem. The genome has an unusual repeat content close to 50%, not sure if that might suppose a problem.
Has anybody come up with any similar issue?
I also asked to Busco developers if they have any idea https://gitlab.com/ezlab/busco/issues/49
Cheers,
Xabi

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Xabier Vázquez-Campos, PhD
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NSW Systems Biology Initiative
School of Biotechnology and Biomolecular Sciences
The University of New South Wales
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Carson Holt

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Sep 11, 2017, 12:52:38 PM9/11/17
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BUSCO may be generating too few models. BUSCO also identifies classes of conserved short genes that may not represent enough training diversity for your organism. Try running MAKER in protein2genome or est2genome mode, and then train with those results.

—Carson

Xabier Vázquez-Campos

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Sep 17, 2017, 9:21:17 PM9/17/17
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I did it that way and AUGUSTUS is predicting a more reasonable number of genes, about 12500 in Maker, but about 19000 in the model assessment step.
In comparison, SNAP gives 16000 and GeneMark 19000.

I haven't found any reference about but, would it be a good idea to train Augustus over the masked genome instead?
Thanks,


Carson Holt

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Sep 19, 2017, 5:35:00 PM9/19/17
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Gene predictors tend to over predict, so I would not take the high numbers given by SNAP and GeneMark as true counts. You will probably end up with something like 7-10k in the final results. But now Augustus is giving a higher count, you should be good to start running MAKER.

—Carson

Xabier Vázquez-Campos

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Sep 19, 2017, 8:02:23 PM9/19/17
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Thanks Carson.

Last quick question. After the first run (before using the gene predictors) I ran fasta_merge to get an idea of the numbers I should be looking for.
In summary, I got 14000 genes, only using Swissprot and a close highly curated reference genome to avoid any "fake" protein or partial proteins from draft annotations, plus assembled RNA-seq from my genome.
How should I consider this as a guide? (if I can do so) ... Is this a number I should be aiming as a minimum number of genes? maximum? something around that?

PS my genome (fungus) is 80+ Mbp and just 150 contigs so I expect very few possible fragments due assembly (seq errors aside)

Carson Holt

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Sep 22, 2017, 1:58:19 PM9/22/17
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I don’t think you can use the protein2genome option to estimate gene count. It will turn any alignment that matches at east 50% into a gene model. So you can get a lot of partial models which will inflate gene count. It’s good enough for training but not so much annotation.

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