jbonunsla post-2015?

22 views
Skip to first unread message

xabju

unread,
Jun 9, 2018, 3:26:36 PM6/9/18
to lojban
On the jbonunsla page on la .uitkis., there is no documentation of Logfests post-2015? Were they held? Is one scheduled for 2018?

xabju

unread,
Jun 9, 2018, 3:30:41 PM6/9/18
to lojban
First question mark is a typo. More generally, it appears that Lojbanistan has been in a period of relative inactivity for several years, and I wonder why that is.

Bob LeChevalier

unread,
Jun 10, 2018, 3:08:52 PM6/10/18
to loj...@googlegroups.com
On 6/9/2018 3:30 PM, xabju wrote:
> First question mark is a typo. More generally, it appears that
> Lojbanistan has been in a period of relative inactivity for several
> years, and I wonder why that is.

I think that actually there has been a considerable increase in
activity, BUT, it is not the sort of activity that gets attention.

The perceived lack of activity is due to a relative vacuum of leadership
that is both leading and communicating about the Lojban community as a
community.

I am partly responsible for this, as Founder and long-time president.
My (inevitable) decline as I passed into older age and health problems
left me with the time and energy (and more important, the focus) to see
that things got done.

Others have stepped up, probably more of you-all than ever stepped up
before. But we don't have any single dynamic leader who speaks for the
community, or even who aspires to speak for even a large chunk of the
community. Our much-respected webmaster, Robin Powell largely filled in
the vacuum as I stepped back, from roughly 2000 to 2015. But he also
reached the point where burnout and other competing aspects of life
(like childrearing) have reduced his time and enthusiasm, as mine had
ebbed by 2000.

But in the era when I was most active, and again in the era when Robin
was most active, only a handful of Lojbanists at any one time were in
the background getting stuff done. Now there are a lot more, but none
of them stand out to the community.

As for LogFests, I held them almost singlehandedly up until around 2000,
here at my house, in conjunction with annual meetings of the LLG formal
membership, which guaranteed some minimum attendance and also provided
structure to the weekend-long events. During Robin's era, Matt Powell
held a couple of LogFest-like events in Michigan, and others held
somewhat less-planned events around the US, with Robin usually providing
much of the leadership/organization involved. But the events were
relatively unorganized, and the LLG organization became entirely
Internet-driven.

Currently, many of the most active Lojbanists are not in the US (selpa'i
in Germany and gleki in Russia, for example), and the non-US Lojban
community is less-organized and less able to bring together a "LogFest"
rather spontaneously. LLG has passed out of my control, but hasn't yet
managed to get itself organized to the extent that it can lead others
into activity.

It will be largely up to the rest of you to step forward (at least some
of the time) if you want to see things happen. LLG and the Lojban
community remain an entirely volunteer organization. There are a few
thousand US dollars in the bank to cover incidental expenses, but not
even enough to pay for one full-time person (or even half-time). So
where the community of Lojbanists will go depend on what the members of
the community step forward and lead others to want to go.

lojbab
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages