2016-01-30 17:42 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni...@gmail.com>:I recommend using camxes for teaching beginners, not the canxes-experimental that was deteriorated by la gleki.
I'm not aware it was deteriorated by me. Can you provide any explanation?
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The experimental Camxes-JS parser I initiated was by no mean intended to represent the official grammar of Lojban or any upgrade thereof; the experimental Camxes is there for testing implementations of various grammar change proposals, in order to check whether they are compatible with PEG or conflict with some other parts of the grammar, a little like a sandbox grammar; some of these changes might be approved to be part of official Lojban in the future, and others are either unlikely to be approved or are highly controversial.
The experimental Camxes-JS was thus by no mean intended to be able to parse the story called {la .teris.}. :-)
The problem is that Gleki the dictator have been maintained the parser on the official lojban.org server so that it fit to his personal beginner's course, asserting that the grammar of experimental camxes-js is of new Lojban, as if it were de facto standard, or would be official soon.
We can no more see that egocentric version of his personal beginner's course, because he has already concealed the evidence.
The fact that Gleki's course reduced its egocentrism is an improved point, though his dictatorship will not stop as long as he continues administrating "vrici" server of lojban.org.
Actually the problem occurred as I wrote to Gleki:
2016-02-01 18:34 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni...@gmail.com>:The problem is that Gleki the dictator have been maintained the parser on the official lojban.org server so that it fit to his personal beginner's course, asserting that the grammar of experimental camxes-js is of new Lojban, as if it were de facto standard, or would be official soon.It's simply not true.
We can no more see that egocentric version of his personal beginner's course, because he has already concealed the evidence.Because it's not egocentric and on the contrary altruistic.What can even be egocentric in an activity for which personally I gain nothing.
The fact that Gleki's course reduced its egocentrism is an improved point, though his dictatorship will not stop as long as he continues administrating "vrici" server of lojban.org.You simply don't understand who is administrating vrici. It's Robin. not me. You as well can get an account there and put everything relevant to Lojban you like.
Actually the problem occurred as I wrote to Gleki:
You as well publish different unofficial resources on lojban.orgThe only reason for me to publish it there was and is to provide a faster way of accessing them.
Le mardi 2 février 2016 06:39:15 UTC, la gleki a écrit :2016-02-01 18:34 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni...@gmail.com>:The problem is that Gleki the dictator have been maintained the parser on the official lojban.org server so that it fit to his personal beginner's course, asserting that the grammar of experimental camxes-js is of new Lojban, as if it were de facto standard, or would be official soon.It's simply not true.There is no evidence that it's not true, while there are evidences that it's true.Because you have concealed the evidences for that on lojban.org, I use the wayback machine here:The first archive above shows that your personal beginner's course deals with "modern dialects of Lojban".
The second one shows that the followers of your personal beginner's course should use the parser http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/camxes-exp.html , that is experimental camxes-js, for checking the grammar of their sentences.
Besides, you made some modifications on the experimental camxes-js that were reflected on the parser on lojban.org.Those three records are evidences for your dictatorship that you abused your authority on lojban.org by freely modified the tool on official server for your personal beginner's course.We can no more see that egocentric version of his personal beginner's course, because he has already concealed the evidence.Because it's not egocentric and on the contrary altruistic.What can even be egocentric in an activity for which personally I gain nothing.You gained "modern Lojban" suitable to your ideal, and deprived me of my citizenship of Lojban community. The evidences are below.You differentiated Zantufa grammar on #lojban channel of IRC:--- Day changed Mon Aug 10 201510:43 < gleki> lo catni gerna cu te frica ma'oi GUhA ma'oi GA i ma'i la zantufa lo cmavo be ma'oi GUhA cu na'e se nitcu jecu ku'i binxo lo cmavo be ma'oi GA i lu ro mo cu ge mo gi mo li'u ja lu ro mo ge cu mo gi mo li'u cu se stura lo simsa be tu'a lo catni gerna sei ku'i na'e dunli10:43 < gleki> i di'u se cusku la guskant10:43 < gleki> i ja'o lo guskanbau cu banzu frica lo jbobauThis record and above three records are evidences for your egocentrism of asserting that I am not Lojbanist, while you keep some dialects that you permit to be modern Lojban.
The fact that Gleki's course reduced its egocentrism is an improved point, though his dictatorship will not stop as long as he continues administrating "vrici" server of lojban.org.You simply don't understand who is administrating vrici. It's Robin. not me. You as well can get an account there and put everything relevant to Lojban you like.I don't know about the whole administratorship on that server. However, at least your modifications on tools are all reflected on the web contents of lojban.org.(I don't know why that folder is kept visible to public.)Actually the problem occurred as I wrote to Gleki:
You as well publish different unofficial resources on lojban.orgThe only reason for me to publish it there was and is to provide a faster way of accessing them.I only modified pages of mediawiki with notes of "unofficial" when necessary, while you modified any tools on lojban.org as you like. You have the whole power on lojban.org web contents
, and abused the power for your personal unofficial contents. I call it dictatorship, and I have no other suitable word to express your activities.
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