tsali

[Pierre Abbat]

"strong" in Wiktionary has the first two senses:
1. Capable of producing great physical force.
2. Capable of withstanding great physical force.
Other senses are related to one of these two, or are "carmi" or something else
(like the strong verb). Which of these two senses is "tsali", and what's the
other one?

Pierre
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[Jorge Llambías]

On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Pierre Abbat <ph...@bezitopo.org> wrote:

"strong" in Wiktionary has the first two senses:
1. Capable of producing great physical force.
2. Capable of withstanding great physical force.
Other senses are related to one of these two, or are "carmi" or something else
(like the strong verb). Which of these two senses is "tsali", and what's the
other one?

I'd say 1 and "jdari".

 

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[Jonathan Jones]

vlipa can possibly be used for sense 1 (using the second reading "x₁ is powerful in aspect x₂ under x₃"), but I'd call it a huge stretch. (Not quite a square peg/round hole, more like an octagon peg.) On the other hand, jdari fits extremely well for sense 2. Coupling the aforementioned with the fact that when I think "strong", I think of muscles, not steel plating, I'd go with sense 1 for tsali.

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[Jonathan Jones]

What he said.

[Pierre Abbat]

On Saturday, July 05, 2014 18:43:15 Jonathan Jones wrote:
> vlipa can possibly be used for sense 1 (using the second reading "x1 is
> powerful in aspect x2 under x3"), but I'd call it a huge stretch. (Not
> quite a square peg/round hole, more like an octagon peg.) On the other
> hand, jdari fits extremely well for sense 2. Coupling the aforementioned
> with the fact that when I think "strong", I think of muscles, not steel
> plating, I'd go with sense 1 for tsali.

What about a strong rope?

Pierre
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Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.

[Jonathan Jones]

On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Pierre Abbat <ph...@bezitopo.org> wrote:

On Saturday, July 05, 2014 18:43:15 Jonathan Jones wrote:
> vlipa can possibly be used for sense 1 (using the second reading "x1 is
> powerful in aspect x2 under x3"), but I'd call it a huge stretch. (Not
> quite a square peg/round hole, more like an octagon peg.) On the other
> hand, jdari fits extremely well for sense 2. Coupling the aforementioned
> with the fact that when I think "strong", I think of muscles, not steel
> plating, I'd go with sense 1 for tsali.

What about a strong rope?

As in tensile strength? I'd say that's definitely jdari.

 

Pierre
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[Jorge Llambías]

On further thought, "tsali" can be either 1 or 2 depending on what goes in x2:

tsali lo ka lacpu. tsali lo ka catke, tsali lo ka darxi, tsali lo ka gunta are 1, but tsali lo ka sarji, tsali lo ka snipa, tsali lo ka bandu, or indeed tsali lo ka jdari are 2.