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Luke Bergen

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Dec 26, 2011, 12:58:10 PM12/26/11
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So I was visiting the family and was thinking about how my wife's sisster's daughter would refer to me.

At first I liked the idea of relationships being explictely called out like mamymam etc... But now I'm wondering if it would be nice to have a really generic title for family members.  I mean, how many people had an "uncle jim" who was technically a close friend of the family but has an honorary family title.

So I was thinking maybe something like {la lanzu.djim} as being a fully generic family title for when you don't want to spell out that this is "la mamymesyspeni djim"

Michael Turniansky

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Dec 26, 2011, 5:12:32 PM12/26/11
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  You can use ckini, if you really want, but I don't know why you object to famti.  The x3 makes it general enough.

            --gejyspa

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Luke Bergen

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Dec 26, 2011, 5:30:33 PM12/26/11
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Oh... Didn't notice that one. That's quite handy.

I still like the idea of a super generic title for those crazy cases (which I know personally can get convoluted) where I just want to say "cousin kevin" instead of "second cousin once removed kevin".  English doesn't go as far generic as I wish it did sometimes and just have a "family" title (though it seems like "cousin" fills this gap in some families/usages)

You're also probably right that ckini would be better.

In general it feels like lojban could use some peppering up on titles. (from a cultural perspective. I'm not advocating gismu/lujvo creation or anything flame-baity like that)

Arnt Richard Johansen

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Dec 26, 2011, 6:16:56 PM12/26/11
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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:58:10PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote:
> So I was thinking maybe something like {la lanzu.djim} as being a fully
> generic family title for when you don't want to spell out that this is "la
> mamymesyspeni djim"

Check out famti and tamne; they're plenty generic.

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Pierre Abbat

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Dec 26, 2011, 10:15:20 PM12/26/11
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I'd say that do famtyspe ko'a. "la lanzu.djim" is ungrammatical; you can
say "la .lanz.djim" (in dotside) or "la .ckin.djim" or "la noi ckini .djim."

Pierre

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la .lindar.

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Jan 25, 2012, 3:18:45 PM1/25/12
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{famti} is appropriate for any person which is roughly of the same generation as your parent(s).
I often call Robin 'Uncle' or {famti}.
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