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la .lindar.

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Jan 17, 2013, 12:04:04 AM1/17/13
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BUTTON
(Noun)
Like on a shirt or jacket.

BUTTON
(Verb)
Like what you do with a button.

It seems like this *really* should have been base-game content.
What were the developers thinking? Seriously...
(Also, food for thought, why does something begin passively and end agentively? cfari / sisti)

Sebastian

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Jan 17, 2013, 1:57:06 AM1/17/13
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17 jan 2013 kl. 06:04 skrev "la .lindar." <lindar...@gmail.com>:

BUTTON
(Noun)
Like on a shirt or jacket.
pe'i {batke} ranges over both button on shirts and keyboards, just like it's English counterpart.


BUTTON
(Verb)
Like what you do with a button.

Something like {batke}+{catke}/{lasna}?


It seems like this *really* should have been base-game content.
What were the developers thinking? Seriously...
(Also, food for thought, why does something begin passively and end agentively? cfari / sisti)
But then you might be able to easily construct lujvos to get this distinction:
Passively: {cfari} {tolcfa} 
Agentively: {sisti} {tolsti}

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Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG

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Jan 17, 2013, 6:34:25 AM1/17/13
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la .lindar. wrote:
> BUTTON
> (Noun)
> Like on a shirt or jacket.

batke, or more more specifically cekybatke

> BUTTON
> (Verb)
> Like what you do with a button.

cekla'a

> It seems like this *really* should have been base-game content.

More so than it is?

Why?

> What were the developers thinking? Seriously...

Well, you did omit the "switch" or "keyboard" sense of button from your
question.

> (Also, food for thought, why does something begin passively and end
> agentively? cfari / sisti)

It only does so if you choose those particular forms.

se fanmo is the non-agentive ending

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la .lindar.

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Jan 19, 2013, 12:00:20 AM1/19/13
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It didn't really occur to me that {batke} is just a thing with a particular shape and (no particular) function.
A doorknob is also a {batke}.

Michael Turniansky

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Feb 7, 2013, 3:30:45 PM2/7/13
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  Sorry for the aside, but what does the phrase "base-game content" mean?  (And for good measure, what's the filed of endeavor from it derives?)
        --gejyspa

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la .lindar.

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Feb 8, 2013, 1:31:55 PM2/8/13
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Usually in PC games (and some board games) modifications (mods) or additional content can be added to the "base game". So say for example Bill Wrong's "Simulated Social Interactions" comes out and they lack the ability to hi-five as an interaction. Somebody writes up a mod to add it to the base (unmodified) game, because it was not originally base game content.

Michael Turniansky

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Feb 8, 2013, 1:39:13 PM2/8/13
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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:31 PM, la .lindar. <lindar...@gmail.com> wrote:
Usually in PC games (and some board games) modifications (mods) or additional content can be added to the "base game". So say for example Bill Wrong's "Simulated Social Interactions" comes out and they lack the ability to hi-five as an interaction. Somebody writes up a mod to add it to the base (unmodified) game, because it was not originally base game content.
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MorphemeAddict

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Feb 8, 2013, 1:49:56 PM2/8/13
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17 jan 2013 kl. 06:04 skrev "la .lindar." <lindar...@gmail.com>:

BUTTON
(Noun)
Like on a shirt or jacket.
pe'i {batke} ranges over both button on shirts and keyboards, just like it's English counterpart.

I think this is a mistake. Shirt buttons fasten, keyboard and screen buttons don't. 

stevo

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Feb 8, 2013, 2:02:43 PM2/8/13
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On Friday, February 8, 2013 10:49:56 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:


On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Sebastian <so.co...@gmail.com> wrote:




17 jan 2013 kl. 06:04 skrev "la .lindar." <lindar...@gmail.com>:

BUTTON
(Noun)
Like on a shirt or jacket.
pe'i {batke} ranges over both button on shirts and keyboards, just like it's English counterpart.

I think this is a mistake. Shirt buttons fasten, keyboard and screen buttons don't. 

batke x1 is a button/knob/[handle] on/for item x2, with purpose x3, made of material x4.


So {batke} cab also be a knob which is a very vague word.

Jonathan Jones

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Feb 8, 2013, 5:24:03 PM2/8/13
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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:49 AM, MorphemeAddict <lyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Sebastian <so.co...@gmail.com> wrote:
17 jan 2013 kl. 06:04 skrev "la .lindar." <lindar...@gmail.com>:

BUTTON
(Noun)
Like on a shirt or jacket.
pe'i {batke} ranges over both button on shirts and keyboards, just like it's English counterpart.

I think this is a mistake. Shirt buttons fasten, keyboard and screen buttons don't. 

They are all similar shapes, and that is why they are all batke.
 
stevo

BUTTON
(Verb)
Like what you do with a button.

Something like {batke}+{catke}/{lasna}?


It seems like this *really* should have been base-game content.
What were the developers thinking? Seriously...
(Also, food for thought, why does something begin passively and end agentively? cfari / sisti)
But then you might be able to easily construct lujvos to get this distinction:
Passively: {cfari} {tolcfa} 
Agentively: {sisti} {tolsti}

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