Best free offline Android apps for learning Lojban?

[la gleki]

I hate Anki because it doesn't allow entering answers using a keyboard nor it provides a list of possible answers a la test mode.

Memrise for android is still absent.

Any other ideas? If you know of any free good app for learning languages that allows importing more decks I could prepare a list for lojban.

[Arthur Helfstein Fragoso]

If you can carry a piece of paper and a pen, you can just write the
answers there. I think I can remember better writing by hand then
typing, but maybe it's just me.

Arthur

[la .lindar.]

I just do Memrise in Chrome on my Galaxy S3. I have little to no problem using it that way.

[la gleki]

On Friday, August 31, 2012 1:02:38 AM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote:

I just do Memrise in Chrome on my Galaxy S3. I have little to no problem using it that way.

The title says "offline  apps".

[la .lindar.]

Oh, derp.
Hmm... make one? Get the Japanese person to make one?

[la gleki]

On Friday, August 31, 2012 8:50:19 AM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote:

Oh, derp.
Hmm... make one? Get the Japanese person to make one?

The version of memrise for iOS is exactly what I need. It can run offline. But 

[la gleki]

Oh, the message got cut off.

This "But" looks like {ku'i co'e} where {co'e} means "I don't like iOS" zo'o

[Jonathan Jones]

Actually, my assumption was "... I don't have an iProduct." That happens to be my reason as well, although I'll admit the reason for /that/ is because I don't like Apple Co. and it's elitist overpriced consumables.

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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
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[Jonathan Jones]

A little bit of research and I found a user-made BETA android memrise app, which you can learn more about here: http://memrise.anty.info/ I have /no idea/ how good it is, I have not looked into it at all myself, except to find it.

There is also mention by Memrise's mobile developer that they have plans to make an android app themselves at some point, but they give absolutely no details: http://www.memrise.com/thread/489048/#c19958

[Jonathan Jones]

Google alerts just showed me this:

lojban learn word - Android Apps on Google Play

Looks like .iocikun. listened to Lindar.

[la gleki]

On Saturday, September 1, 2012 1:27:21 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:

Google alerts just showed me this:

lojban learn word - Android Apps on Google Play

Looks like .iocikun. listened to Lindar.

Unfortunately it's no better than Anki. You might cheat saying that you know any given word.

In contrast to that Memrise  really tests your language proficiency.

Just a simple flashcard app with multiple choices for every answer would be enough before memrise for android arrives.

[Braden Shepherdson]

I'm an Android developer in my day job these days, so I may take a
look at this. Vocabulary is my main thing to learn to improve. Knowing
the grammar and looking up 3/4s of the words in a sentence is hardly
knowing Lojban.

I'm not sure how complex memrise would be to clone, though. Are the
materials (ie. the Lojban corpus data) available, at least? How
complex are the logic for displaying and testing, and the visuals?

I suppose I should look into using memrise online first and find out.

Braden

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[Jonathan Jones]

Yes, all of the Lojban materials are available. You might need to look for them, but if you ask on here, someone will know where to find what you're looking for.

Also, Memrise has an API, and although it's very basic at this point, it might be enough to make a working app out of.

The documentation is here: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/faq/

This is an example, wherein we request the list of all courses for Lojban:
http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/iset/?format=json&topic__slug=lojban&limit=37

This is an example, the second set of 100 words in the "Simplified Gismu" course, including all applicable information such as definition:
http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/itemiset/?format=json&iset__slug=simplified-gismu-2&limit=100&offset=100

And finally, this is an example wherein we request all the "mems" of the item "cmalu" in the "Simplified Gismu" course:
http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/mem/?format=json&item=191558

Everything is json formatted. The API developer stated he might make other schemes available.

Not everything is documented, either. I had to figure out the mem one on my own. You can get a (json formatted) list of all available commands by going to the following urls:
iset: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/iset/schema/
item: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/item/schema/
itemiset: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/itemiset/schema/
itemuser: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/itemuser/schema/
lsession: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/lsession/schema/
mem: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/mem/schema/
topic: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/topic/schema/
user: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/user/schema/

The developer also mentioned that the API is read only at this point, so you can't do anything that would change server data.

That's about as much help as I can give you as far as materials. You can access everything on Memrise that there is using that API, AFAICT.

As far as the logic for the "gardening", I don't think it's currently possible to use the API to login in as a user, so it's not possible sync with the Memrise site, but other than that I don't think it'd be /too/ difficult.

[la gleki]

On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 1:47:39 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:

Yes, all of the Lojban materials are available. You might need to look for them, but if you ask on here, someone will know where to find what you're looking for.

Also, Memrise has an API, and although it's very basic at this point, it might be enough to make a working app out of.

The documentation is here: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/faq/

This is an example, wherein we request the list of all courses for Lojban:
http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/iset/?format=json&topic__slug=lojban&limit=37

This is an example, the second set of 100 words in the "Simplified Gismu" course, including all applicable information such as definition:
http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/itemiset/?format=json&iset__slug=simplified-gismu-2&limit=100&offset=100

And finally, this is an example wherein we request all the "mems" of the item "cmalu" in the "Simplified Gismu" course:
http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/mem/?format=json&item=191558

Everything is json formatted. The API developer stated he might make other schemes available.

Not everything is documented, either. I had to figure out the mem one on my own. You can get a (json formatted) list of all available commands by going to the following urls:
iset: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/iset/schema/
item: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/item/schema/
itemiset: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/itemiset/schema/
itemuser: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/itemuser/schema/
lsession: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/lsession/schema/
mem: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/mem/schema/
topic: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/topic/schema/
user: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/user/schema/

The developer also mentioned that the API is read only at this point, so you can't do anything that would change server data.

So the iphone app cant sync back too? .i .uinai 

[Jonathan Jones]

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:33 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 1:47:39 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:

Yes, all of the Lojban materials are available. You might need to look for them, but if you ask on here, someone will know where to find what you're looking for.

Also, Memrise has an API, and although it's very basic at this point, it might be enough to make a working app out of.

The documentation is here: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/faq/

This is an example, wherein we request the list of all courses for Lojban:
http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/iset/?format=json&topic__slug=lojban&limit=37

This is an example, the second set of 100 words in the "Simplified Gismu" course, including all applicable information such as definition:
http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/itemiset/?format=json&iset__slug=simplified-gismu-2&limit=100&offset=100

And finally, this is an example wherein we request all the "mems" of the item "cmalu" in the "Simplified Gismu" course:
http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/mem/?format=json&item=191558

Everything is json formatted. The API developer stated he might make other schemes available.

Not everything is documented, either. I had to figure out the mem one on my own. You can get a (json formatted) list of all available commands by going to the following urls:
iset: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/iset/schema/
item: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/item/schema/
itemiset: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/itemiset/schema/
itemuser: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/itemuser/schema/
lsession: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/lsession/schema/
mem: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/mem/schema/
topic: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/topic/schema/
user: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/user/schema/

The developer also mentioned that the API is read only at this point, so you can't do anything that would change server data.

So the iphone app cant sync back too? .i .uinai 

I can't say, because I do not now, nor will I ever have, any iProduct, but I imagine that, since the app is developed by Memrise, it does not have that limitation. I also imagine that it does, in fact, use only the API I linked.
 

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[Jonathan Jones]

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Jonathan Jones <eye...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:33 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 1:47:39 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:

Yes, all of the Lojban materials are available. You might need to look for them, but if you ask on here, someone will know where to find what you're looking for.

Also, Memrise has an API, and although it's very basic at this point, it might be enough to make a working app out of.

The documentation is here: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/faq/

This is an example, wherein we request the list of all courses for Lojban:
http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/iset/?format=json&topic__slug=lojban&limit=37

This is an example, the second set of 100 words in the "Simplified Gismu" course, including all applicable information such as definition:
http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/itemiset/?format=json&iset__slug=simplified-gismu-2&limit=100&offset=100

And finally, this is an example wherein we request all the "mems" of the item "cmalu" in the "Simplified Gismu" course:
http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/mem/?format=json&item=191558

Everything is json formatted. The API developer stated he might make other schemes available.

Not everything is documented, either. I had to figure out the mem one on my own. You can get a (json formatted) list of all available commands by going to the following urls:
iset: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/iset/schema/
item: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/item/schema/
itemiset: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/itemiset/schema/
itemuser: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/itemuser/schema/
lsession: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/lsession/schema/
mem: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/mem/schema/
topic: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/topic/schema/
user: http://www.memrise.com/api/1.0/user/schema/

The developer also mentioned that the API is read only at this point, so you can't do anything that would change server data.

So the iphone app cant sync back too? .i .uinai 

I can't say, because I do not now, nor will I ever have, any iProduct, but I imagine that, since the app is developed by Memrise, it does not have that limitation. I also imagine that it does*, in fact, use only the API I linked.

*does NOT use only the API....
 

[la gleki]

On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 7:08:59 PM UTC+4, Braden Shepherdson wrote:

I'm an Android developer in my day job these days, so I may take a
look at this. Vocabulary is my main thing to learn to improve. Knowing
the grammar and looking up 3/4s of the words in a sentence is hardly
knowing Lojban.  

I'm not sure how complex memrise would be to clone, though. Are the
materials (ie. the Lojban corpus data) available, at least? How
complex are the logic for displaying and testing, and the visuals?

Just a simple free opens-source quiz application syncing back to your dropbox folder would be worth using.

Lojban and any other language corpus data are available for exporting to text files.