Question about a fuilva

[RexScientiarum]

Alright look, I don't want hear a big debate on weather stage 4 fu'ivla are good or anything because I am not asking that. I am just a bit confused over morphophpology, specifically as in what are legal consonant clusters etc.. I was looking on the exauhstive type 4 fu'ilva forms and I want to know what the slash in CVCC/CVV it doesn't mean rafsi does it? Does it mean a buffer consonant goes before or after the slash?  I want to know if fungnau is morphologically acceptable.

How do I get the program that identifies legal words to work on windows 7 64 bit (sorry can't think of the name of program), it would certainly help but when I tried to get it to work it said it isn't compatible with this version of DOS (which I expected actually) is there a workaround for this?  Will it work with DOSBox?

[RexScientiarum]

Errr... I mean fu'ivla... Sorry.  I also meant to post this in Lojban Beginners, sorry.

[Michael Turniansky]

   No. "C/C" means a consonant pair that is only allowed in the middle of words, not initially (for example, "ks")

              --gejyspa

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:33 PM, RexScientiarum <amt...@gmail.com> wrote:

Alright look, I don't want hear a big debate on weather stage 4 fu'ivla are good or anything because I am not asking that. I am just a bit confused over morphophpology, specifically as in what are legal consonant clusters etc.. I was looking on the exauhstive type 4 fu'ilva forms and I want to know what the slash in CVCC/CVV it doesn't mean rafsi does it? Does it mean a buffer consonant goes before or after the slash?  I want to know if fungnau is morphologically acceptable.

How do I get the program that identifies legal words to work on windows 7 64 bit (sorry can't think of the name of program), it would certainly help but when I tried to get it to work it said it isn't compatible with this version of DOS (which I expected actually) is there a workaround for this?  Will it work with DOSBox?

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[RexScientiarum]

So fungnau is acceptable?

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[RexScientiarum]

Also... does that mean I HAVE to use a consonant pair that is not allowed at the beginning of a word where the slash mark is located or does that just indicate I CAN use such a consonant pair if I wish but other pairs are still acceptable?

[Jorge Llambías]

Have to. For exampe CCVC/CV is a valid fu'ivla, but if the second
cluster was a valid initial, it would be a lujvo instead. But when it
says CC and it is not at the beginning of the word, C/C is also
acceptable.

The list of forms in that page was done before the PEG morphology was
completed, and there may be a couple forms that the PEG morphology
won't accept, but for the most part it is right. I should go over it
at some point and get it up to date.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

[Pierre Abbat]

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 15:55:58 RexScientiarum wrote:
> So fungnau is acceptable?

"fungnau" is not of form CVCC/CVV because "ng" is not a valid initial pair. I
accept it as valid but I don't think xorxes does, because either a syllable
has to end with "ng" (I accept, he doesn't) or a syllable has to begin with
"gn" (neither of us accepts).

"masknoi" is of form CVCC/CVV, but I don't think it's valid for xorxes either.
I have a version of camxes which accepts both, but it's old.

Pierre
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[RexScientiarum]

Any chance that there is a version of camxes or something similar that will work on a windows 7 64 bit computer?

[Kevin Reid]

On Mar 22, 2012, at 13:46, RexScientiarum wrote:

> Any chance that there is a version of camxes or something similar that will work on a windows 7 64 bit computer?

camxes is pure Java code. It doesn't care what your OS or processor is, as long as you can install a JRE to run it with.

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[RexScientiarum]

Yeah, that is what I thought too when I couldn't get it to work the first time. I posted just a bit ago that I did manage to get it working actually.  Thanks though.  The file must have been corrupted or something because I re-downloaded it and got it working right away.

[RexScientiarum]

Yeah never mind, it doesn't work.  I can still try some things though...

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:52:19 PM UTC-4, Kevin Reid wrote:

[RexScientiarum]

Ok... I really can't figure this out... I should be able to just download the file and run it right?

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:52:19 PM UTC-4, Kevin Reid wrote:

[.alyn.post.]

camxes is a command-line program. If you're clicking on the icon to
run it, I'm not sure what it will do. When I run it, I feed the
input from the command-line (on Unix, but the same notion is true on
w32)

$ echo ".i ti xu drani" | java -jar camxes.jar

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