strategic ambiguity of language

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la gleki

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Dec 28, 2012, 3:58:29 AM12/28/12
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Remo Dentato

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Dec 28, 2012, 6:22:44 AM12/28/12
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I agree that such "ambiguities" are important and I think it's a Lojban plus to be able to reflect the same ambiguity.

{mi noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe mi}

WIth the added benefit of being able to convey the disambiguation grammatically (i.e. without resorting to typographical conventions like bold) using {ba'e}:

{ba'e mi noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe mi}
{mi ba'e noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe mi}

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la gleki

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Dec 28, 2012, 8:03:46 AM12/28/12
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On Friday, December 28, 2012 3:22:44 PM UTC+4, remod wrote:
I agree that such "ambiguities" are important and I think it's a Lojban plus to be able to reflect the same ambiguity.

{mi noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe mi}

WIth the added benefit of being able to convey the disambiguation grammatically (i.e. without resorting to typographical conventions like bold) using {ba'e}:

{ba'e mi noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe mi}
{mi ba'e noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe mi}

ju'o, it's quite an easy task even for beginners.

Michael Turniansky

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Jan 2, 2013, 10:06:37 AM1/2/13
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  Of course, since the lojban base sentence contains more than 7 words, we have a lot more possibilities for fun:

 mi no ba'e roi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe mi (Why would you think I had said "nore'u"? That's just silly!)
 mi noroi cusku le se ba'e du'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe mi (This one's a bit harder to justify. Although a construct like "...le se si'o ko'a jdini...." is grammatically fine, se du'u is basically the only thing that transforms bridi -> text, which cusku2 requires.)
  mi noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini ba'e pe mi (In fact, what I said was "po mi"..)
             --gejyspa

la gleki

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Jan 2, 2013, 10:12:51 AM1/2/13
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This article is actually a good exercise for nintadni.
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