lojban.org got spammed

[najrut]

Several days ago one spammer replaced the title page of lojban.org with a stupid advertisement. I made corrections but new pages with spam are being created.

Can anyone stop this ?

[.alyn.post.]

Hrm,

I thought I had my account registered to see changes to the
frontpage. Did this break in the server move? Did I break
something here?

-Alan

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[Robin Lee Powell]

On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 07:48:25AM -0700, najrut wrote:

Trying to stop this sort of thing is a multi-million dollar
industry; if you can figure out a general solution, let me know and
we'll go into business together.

-Robin

[Robin Lee Powell]

It works for me, at any rate; you want to sign up for
http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/wikineurotic for that
purpose.

Oh, you mean you actually watched the front page specifically in the
wiki, I bet. Come find me on IRC and we'll make a test page and
make sure that's working.

-Robin

[Robin Lee Powell]

Actually, it looks like those mails *are* being sent; see below.
Check your spam folder?

973:Oct 7 02:42:57 jukni sendmail[11179]: p979guPh011179: to=alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org, ctladdr=webm...@lojban.org (48/48), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=39300, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (p979gvXV011180 Message accepted for delivery)
982:Oct 7 02:42:59 jukni sendmail[11182]: p979gvXV011180: to=<alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org>, delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp, pri=129543, relay=aspmx.l.google.com. [74.125.127.27], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1317980579 s2si9782106pbk.2)
1013:Oct 7 10:43:21 jukni sendmail[16354]: p97HhIPR016354: to=alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org, ctladdr=webm...@lojban.org (48/48), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=relay, pri=41909, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (p97HhJ2F016355 Message accepted for delivery)
1024:Oct 7 10:43:23 jukni sendmail[16359]: p97HhJ2F016355: to=<alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org>, delay=00:00:04, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp, pri=132161, relay=aspmx.l.google.com. [209.85.225.27], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1318009403 k5si2120674iba.25)
1043:Oct 7 10:44:30 jukni sendmail[16385]: p97HiT2M016385: to=alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org, ctladdr=webm...@lojban.org (48/48), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=43655, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (p97HiT1G016386 Message accepted for delivery)
1049:Oct 7 10:44:31 jukni sendmail[16388]: p97HiT1G016386: to=<alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=133907, relay=aspmx.l.google.com. [209.85.225.27], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1318009471 t6si2119072ibo.75)
1083:Oct 7 13:57:58 jukni sendmail[19307]: p97KvuuM019307: to=alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org, ctladdr=webm...@lojban.org (48/48), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=35547, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (p97Kvvd9019308 Message accepted for delivery)
1098:Oct 7 13:58:00 jukni sendmail[19310]: p97Kvvd9019308: to=<alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org>, delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp, pri=125790, relay=aspmx.l.google.com. [74.125.53.26], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1318021080 y6si11676335pbi.197)
1195:Oct 8 07:38:50 jukni sendmail[11368]: p98Ecntt011368: to=alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org, ctladdr=webm...@lojban.org (48/48), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=36357, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (p98Ecoh1011369 Message accepted for delivery)
1208:Oct 8 07:38:53 jukni sendmail[11371]: p98Ecoh1011369: to=<alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org>, delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=esmtp, pri=126600, relay=aspmx.l.google.com. [209.85.225.26], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1318084733 a5si1761630ibt.101)
1225:Oct 8 07:39:22 jukni sendmail[11395]: p98EdKa0011395: to=alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org, ctladdr=webm...@lojban.org (48/48), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=37028, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (p98EdMX3011396 Message accepted for delivery)
1231:Oct 8 07:39:23 jukni sendmail[11398]: p98EdMX3011396: to=<alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=127271, relay=aspmx.l.google.com. [209.85.225.26], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1318084763 s1si3148699ibb.46)
1301:Oct 8 07:54:40 jukni sendmail[11595]: p98EsdTG011595: to=alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org, ctladdr=webm...@lojban.org (48/48), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=40245, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (p98EsdT6011596 Message accepted for delivery)
1307:Oct 8 07:54:41 jukni sendmail[11598]: p98EsdT6011596: to=<alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org>, delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=130488, relay=aspmx.l.google.com. [74.125.53.26], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 1318085681 n8si14299288pbg.226)

-Robin

[.alyn.post.]

Some, but not all, where in my spam folder. I'm sorry I didn't
think to look there earlier.

-Alan

[Timo Paulssen]

Have you considered just adding ReCaptcha to lojban.org? It's not very intrusive
and pretty accessible, as far as i can tell.
- Timo

[Robin Lee Powell]

Registration already has a captcha:
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-register.php

If you want to figure out how to substitute ReCaptcha instead, be my
guest; I don't really have the time/energy. I doubt it would make
any significant difference.

One of the more recent human-sentence captchas might, but see above.
We only get spammed like once a month; it's really not worth my time
to figure out how to get the code in place properly. If someone
else wants to, great; happy to give you an account.

-Robin

[najrut]

I think you should block main pages like Title Page from editing by newbies at all and remove spammers from the list of members.

It will solve some problems. 

[Robin Lee Powell]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 09:09:00AM -0700, najrut wrote:
> I think you should block main pages like Title Page from editing
> by newbies

It is now locked, which means no-one but me and people with admin
perms can edit it. You (and everyone else who I know well who has
recently edited the front page) now have admin perms.

> at all and remove spammers from the list of members.

I always do. More specifically, I change their passwords to
something random and long, and I set their email to
neu...@digitalkingdom.org (which goes nowhere, but does so without
bothering anyone else's mail servers). You should feel free to do
the same, now that you can.

-Robin